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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 03:35 AM
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I know some owners have experienced this lovely problem. The battery died and I have no idea why? I get a message saying "battery malfunction electrical components turned off", and then it goes away. This morning I go to unlock the car and nothing, it doesnt even unlock..I have not had any problems with my car so far...so this is really odd. If anybody knows or has any idea what the hell is going on please feel free to chime in.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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I'm not going to guess why it happened, but this may be one of the problems related to the recall going on now... I've read this complant quite a few times here, so your not alone.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Happened to me late last year. Woke up one morning and dead battery. Service was claiming some electrical component was drawing current according to their diagnostics and after replacing my overhead lighting unit, voltage regulators, and other parts, the problem persisted. I'd get a malfunction display on my dash that indicated that certain components are not available (e.g., dynamic seats). Each time I took it back, I urged them to just replace both batteries but they didn't and claimed they fixed it each time. 4 tries later, they finally gave me a new battery and I haven't had a problem fixed. I am by no mean a technician but common sense tells me to also replace the battery regardless of the original source of the problem.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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where is the second battery?
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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I've been told there's an auxillary battery but not sure where it is.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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I've been told there's an auxillary battery but not sure where it is.
Main battery is in the trunk and the aux battery is under the hood on the left rear side... ( passengers side in the U.S)
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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I had this problem a few weeks after I got the car. Battery was down to 3 volts without load. It took most of the day to charge it. I took the car in to the dealer, but they found no problem in four days. I haven't had this problem since. Freaky!
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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The little aux battery is under the ac/heater inlet filter. It looks like the one for my lawn tractor.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Well Roadside assistance just came and changed the battery completely. Guy said that he had to change the battery of another E-Class last night. He didn't say what the problem was but said that this new "maintenence free" battery is still having problems. I'm gonna take the car into service and see what went wrong. Service Advisor said it could be a bad alternator but I guess I'll have to wait and see.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Char03
Well Roadside assistance just came and changed the battery completely. Guy said that he had to change the battery of another E-Class last night. He didn't say what the problem was but said that this new "maintenence free" battery is still having problems. I'm gonna take the car into service and see what went wrong. Service Advisor said it could be a bad alternator but I guess I'll have to wait and see.
Might be a faulty module causing the battery to drain. Also, request that your Battery Control Module (BCM) software be updated. I received "electrical consumers switched off" several times. System and batteries were found to be alright, the BCM software update solved the malfunction.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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I just dropped the car off at the dealer and the service advisor said it might be a faulty battery module as well. I'll post what the end result was.....
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Just got my car back today and they actually had to do several things. Here it goes:
"Perform Drain Grommet Recall, cheack water drain grommet in front of wheel house on driver and front passenger sides."
"Replace Control Unit- Battery"- and they also did some updated coding
"Perform SBC recall"
In the end the only thing I had to pay for were some new wipers which ran me $74! Now those are some expernsive wiper blades!
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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In the end the only thing I had to pay for were some new wipers which ran me $74!
Were the wipers actually worn or were they simply noisy and skipping? Reason I ask is because if your problem was noise and/or skipping there was a TSB issued back in JUN03 that would entitle you to at least one free set of wipers.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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I have had the car for a little over two years now, so I thought I needed new blades because they were skipping and noisy. I remember asking the dealer about this a little while back and they replied with, "if it's been over a year then we can't cover that for you." I guess there really is nothing I can do about it now since I already paid for them, but thanks anyways.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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I have had the car for a little over two years now, so I thought I needed new blades because they were skipping and noisy. I remember asking the dealer about this a little while back and they replied with, "if it's been over a year then we can't cover that for you." I guess there really is nothing I can do about it now since I already paid for them, but thanks anyways.
FYI – the TSB limits up to VIN A218290 however mentions no cut off as it concerns mileage or time passed. Therefore, this supersedes the normal all encompassing twelve month goodwill period.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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My vehicle's vin is past that so I guess it does not apply to me. Thanks for your help anyways.....the information you have given me has been greatly appreciated.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 02:24 AM
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I can't believe it. My car's battery has once again died! This is the second time in under two weeks now. Dealer replaced battery module the first time around, so I am really curious to see the problem is now. There was enough juice to unlock the car this time though. The display read "braking distance increased" or something like that, then I turned the key to start the car and nothing. All I got was another display that read "battery malfunction, electrical components turned off." This is starting to **** me off.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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I can't believe it. My car's battery has once again died! This is the second time in under two weeks now. Dealer replaced battery module the first time around, so I am really curious to see the problem is now. There was enough juice to unlock the car this time though. The display read "braking distance increased" or something like that, then I turned the key to start the car and nothing. All I got was another display that read "battery malfunction, electrical components turned off." This is starting to **** me off.
This is the exact same message I received, but it was down to a defective battery??????

Your dealer replaced the battery module, but did he replace the battery?

My technician stated straight away the problem was the battery, and touch wood everything is okay, even though we are using more power than the national grid before starting the engine

I feel for you and this type of breakdown is clearly NOT acceptable.

John

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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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All of these nice electronics that can drain the battery sure can cause problems. I understand the "braking distance increased" is caused when the SBC pump doesn't come up to pressure within the allowed time. This could certainly be caused by a battery that doesn't have enough charge to run the pump. I would suspect not only a defective battery but some other circuit that is bleeding off the charge.

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Old May 10, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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This problem should be solved with the recall which is running at the moment. The generator of many W211s has a problem with the voltage controller getting overheated due to bad "heat conductive paste" with which the controller is fixed to the generator.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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This problem should be solved with the recall which is running at the moment. The generator of many W211s has a problem with the voltage controller getting overheated due to bad "heat conductive paste" with which the controller is fixed to the generator.
Hi drstromberg,
Thanks for the information, ours has only failed the once, but obviously that is one time to many.

Regards,
John
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Old May 10, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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John, perhaps they changed the voltage controller during your last repair so your shouldn't have problems. It seems that the controller mounted to the generator causes the battery not to be charged as it should be. If the brakes also cause problems it may be that even the SBC battery does not get charged.

If I remember correctly only those generators made by Bosch are affected.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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John, perhaps they changed the voltage controller during your last repair so your shouldn't have problems. It seems that the controller mounted to the generator causes the battery not to be charged as it should be. If the brakes also cause problems it may be that even the SBC battery does not get charged.

If I remember correctly only those generators made by Bosch are affected.

Thanks again for your input. I actually had to call the Emergency Number. A technician simply replaced the main battery and reset all the electronic gadgets. Then he kindly took the car for a quick drive to re-calibrate the tyre monitor.

An excellent speedy service, with a very professional technician.

I have had a letter from my dealer merely informing me to expect a letter from Mercedes-Benz that might tell me if my vehicle needs any further updates!

John
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