New 2009 E Class? (x-post from E55 Forum)
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New 2009 E Class? (x-post from E55 Forum)
Codename W212 in the works...SBC Brakes..BYE BYE!!!!
All-new E-Class Is An A6-shooter
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o rival the model which claimed the prestigious Auto 1 Car of the Year award at the Geneva Motor Show in March, Mercedes has sent its E-Class engineering team back to the drawing board with a plan to set new standards in the executive saloon class.
The result is a two-pronged attack to be led by a facelifted evolution of the current machine in mid-2006. That gives company technicians more than enough time to develop an all-new vehicle, codenamed W212, which is due for launch in 2009.
The mag's exclusive pictures of the latter reveal how radical changes are being planned for the newcomer. Abandoning the retro design of the current E-Class to embrace a look that's not unlike the new Lexus GS is a big step. But our sources say the most controversial change is that the SBC brake-by-wire system is being abandoned in favour of conventional hydraulic anchors. The ad-vanced set-up will continue to offer the benefits of SBC - independent braking of each wheel in particular - while providing greater feel and control.
Other features include bi-xenon headlamps which are linked to the steering to help illuminate around corners. An upgraded version of the Pre-Safe system is also being developed - this will include a 360-degree radar for monitoring the car's proximity to other road users and prepare the ABS and traction control systems as necessary. In addition, the technology adjusts airbags
and the seating position if it calculates that an accident appears imminent.
The E-Class is to come with a head-up display, projected on to the windscreen, and a BMW iDrive-style control operated by a keypad and rotating ball. Both rear and four-wheel-drive models are being considered, although it is not clear if the latter will be available in the UK. In the past, Mercedes has reserved 4WD variants for markets prone to snow such as Scandinavia and North America.
Entry-level versions will offer six-speed automatic gearboxes, but our spies report that the firm is to continue developing its new seven-speed unit for range-toppers. A vast array of petrol and diesel engines, equipped with particulate filters as standard, are also under development. All-new dual-fuel powerplants, derived from the C400 CDI hybrid motor which will debut with the next S-Class, will also be available.
The petrol range is set to include the basic E250, driven by a 2.5-litre direct-injection V6 developing 214bhp. At the other end of the scale, the flagship E63 AMG will produce 571bhp from a turbocharged 6.3-litre V8. Diesel options vary from the 204bhp 3.0-litre V6-powered E280 to the 354bhp 4.0-litre V8.
The new model is already undergoing trials, and prototypes have been built. And one thing looks certain: the E-Class test drivers will have one of the most rewarding jobs in the car industry.
Dan Strong
All-new E-Class Is An A6-shooter
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o rival the model which claimed the prestigious Auto 1 Car of the Year award at the Geneva Motor Show in March, Mercedes has sent its E-Class engineering team back to the drawing board with a plan to set new standards in the executive saloon class.
The result is a two-pronged attack to be led by a facelifted evolution of the current machine in mid-2006. That gives company technicians more than enough time to develop an all-new vehicle, codenamed W212, which is due for launch in 2009.
The mag's exclusive pictures of the latter reveal how radical changes are being planned for the newcomer. Abandoning the retro design of the current E-Class to embrace a look that's not unlike the new Lexus GS is a big step. But our sources say the most controversial change is that the SBC brake-by-wire system is being abandoned in favour of conventional hydraulic anchors. The ad-vanced set-up will continue to offer the benefits of SBC - independent braking of each wheel in particular - while providing greater feel and control.
Other features include bi-xenon headlamps which are linked to the steering to help illuminate around corners. An upgraded version of the Pre-Safe system is also being developed - this will include a 360-degree radar for monitoring the car's proximity to other road users and prepare the ABS and traction control systems as necessary. In addition, the technology adjusts airbags
and the seating position if it calculates that an accident appears imminent.
The E-Class is to come with a head-up display, projected on to the windscreen, and a BMW iDrive-style control operated by a keypad and rotating ball. Both rear and four-wheel-drive models are being considered, although it is not clear if the latter will be available in the UK. In the past, Mercedes has reserved 4WD variants for markets prone to snow such as Scandinavia and North America.
Entry-level versions will offer six-speed automatic gearboxes, but our spies report that the firm is to continue developing its new seven-speed unit for range-toppers. A vast array of petrol and diesel engines, equipped with particulate filters as standard, are also under development. All-new dual-fuel powerplants, derived from the C400 CDI hybrid motor which will debut with the next S-Class, will also be available.
The petrol range is set to include the basic E250, driven by a 2.5-litre direct-injection V6 developing 214bhp. At the other end of the scale, the flagship E63 AMG will produce 571bhp from a turbocharged 6.3-litre V8. Diesel options vary from the 204bhp 3.0-litre V6-powered E280 to the 354bhp 4.0-litre V8.
The new model is already undergoing trials, and prototypes have been built. And one thing looks certain: the E-Class test drivers will have one of the most rewarding jobs in the car industry.
Dan Strong
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Nice, where did you read this from? And what do they mean by evolution of the current machine in 2006? The 2006 is out, and it's not very evolved.
I didn't have a problem with the SBC, I think they could have improved it, but shouldn't have abandoned it.
Hoping for a V8 diesel.
I didn't have a problem with the SBC, I think they could have improved it, but shouldn't have abandoned it.
Hoping for a V8 diesel.
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Codename W212 in the works...SBC Brakes..BYE BYE!!!!
The mag's exclusive pictures of the latter reveal how radical changes are being planned for the newcomer. Abandoning the retro design of the current E-Class to embrace a look that's not unlike the new Lexus GS is a big step.
The mag's exclusive pictures of the latter reveal how radical changes are being planned for the newcomer. Abandoning the retro design of the current E-Class to embrace a look that's not unlike the new Lexus GS is a big step.
Embracing a look "not unlike the Lexus GS" would be a big step, all right. Right off a cliff.
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Originally Posted by DWP
"Retro?" The Chrysler 300 is retro. The PT Cruiser is retro. The W211 ain't retro.
Embracing a look "not unlike the Lexus GS" would be a big step, all right. Right off a cliff.
Embracing a look "not unlike the Lexus GS" would be a big step, all right. Right off a cliff.
Remember the SL of the 70's didn't change for 16 years... why? They were great! I for one thing MB's designs are for the most part almost timeless (with in reason) and as such hated to seem them dump the current S-class so fast (I would have given it 4 more years), and would hate to see them abandon the E class after only 7 years.. unless they hit a home run.. but if it's GS looking... that would be a foul ball!
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Originally Posted by sacguy
[b] At the other end of the scale, the flagship E63 AMG will produce 571bhp from a turbocharged 6.3-litre V8.
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Originally Posted by DWP
"Retro?" The Chrysler 300 is retro. The PT Cruiser is retro. The W211 ain't retro.
Embracing a look "not unlike the Lexus GS" would be a big step, all right. Right off a cliff.
Embracing a look "not unlike the Lexus GS" would be a big step, all right. Right off a cliff.
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Originally Posted by Sam Samaha
Nice, where did you read this from? And what do they mean by evolution of the current machine in 2006? The 2006 is out, and it's not very evolved.
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Originally Posted by Sam Samaha
Nice, where did you read this from? And what do they mean by evolution of the current machine in 2006? The 2006 is out, and it's not very evolved.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk
Enter search for w212 (note the 07 will not be a w212 that will be in 09)
Result: All-new E-Class Is An A6-shooter 10 May 05
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I am planning to order a new E350 W211 within this few months. Should i wait for the facelift? Regarding the big changes in the next model. Should i order it on mid 06 rather than order it now?
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i was trying to find some info on a hybrid powerplant from mb before i started a new thread and this is as far as i got...
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I am planning to order a new E350 W211 within this few months. Should i wait for the facelift? Regarding the big changes in the next model. Should i order it on mid 06 rather than order it now?
Realize that the the facelifted version will have a new braking system and will probably have teething problems just like SBC.
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Hey BudC you just answered a question that baubaulu asked last JULY! He probably already made his decision. ![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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That's great to hear but who know what the next E class will look like. I hope it would look great unlike the CLS class.
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That's great to hear but who know what the next E class will look like. I hope it would look great unlike the CLS class.
It's a little to early to have real pictures form the w212 (it will start 2009), but before they lounched the w211, Magazins in Germany posted also pictures like that and they have been already very close to the actual look of the w211 as it was in reality when MB launched it in 2002.
So maybe this is a good indication in which direction MB will go with the new design of the E-Class, lets see....
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