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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Problems retrofitting Navigation

I have an 04 E500 and tried adding navigation. My car was already wired for navigation, it just didnt have the drive in the trunk. So I bought the drive and the DVD an wired the drive. The only wire that has nowhere to go is the antenna cable. I noticed when I did a search that someone added a splitter. Do I need to do this or is there somewhere in my car that I can connect too? There is one antenna wire that was already connected that is probably for the radio, but there are no loose inputs to add the navigation one to. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by koko381
I have an 04 E500 and tried adding navigation. My car was already wired for navigation, it just didnt have the drive in the trunk. So I bought the drive and the DVD an wired the drive. The only wire that has nowhere to go is the antenna cable. I noticed when I did a search that someone added a splitter. Do I need to do this or is there somewhere in my car that I can connect too? There is one antenna wire that was already connected that is probably for the radio, but there are no loose inputs to add the navigation one to. Thanks in advance for your help.

There are several specific variants of the w211. You need to compile your information in relation to your build date.

There are too many versions to go from one set of generic information.

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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believe it or not, NAV isn't really a DYI job... it's got a few complicated steps that are better suited to the dealer.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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You'll have to have it programmed so it will work properly.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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No offense, but does anyone actually have any useful answers other than you cant do it yourself.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by koko381
No offense, but does anyone actually have any useful answers other than you cant do it yourself.
It doesn't look too hard to me but you may be missing some parts. Here's a D.I.Y thread.

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/100143-oem-navigation-retrofit-w-pics.html
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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Thanks Bud, thats the same thread that I saw. The only difference with my car is that it was already wired for navigation, so I didnt ned to add any cables. So my only issue now is the antenna, but I may have to add a splitter like Steph did. Thanks.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by koko381
Thanks Bud, thats the same thread that I saw. The only difference with my car is that it was already wired for navigation, so I didnt ned to add any cables. So my only issue now is the antenna, but I may have to add a splitter like Steph did. Thanks.
You may be right because none of us here have any idea which month and year your car was built.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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My car has the same wire configuration as your. I hooked up the wires, but it was not recognized by the COMMAND. When I hit the NAV button, it displays "Navigation device is unavailable". I'll take my car to the dealer next thursday, I'll let you know how it goes.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 02:12 AM
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All W211 except the early MY03 in the US has navigation prewire. You do not need dealer to program your AGW for the nav to work. You will need to program it if you want the nav info to show up in your dash multi function display, but it's not required for the nav itself to work.

You will need to splitter for the nav to share the tele-aid antenna. I don't know if you can just unplug the tele-aid antenna and use it for nev drive. Give it a try and let us know.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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hi
i am looking at a 2006 350.
is the comand standard?
i see a navigation option on the m.b website and was wondering (after i read a thread that navigation can be fitted afterwards) if it is cheaper to fit it later?
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by steph280
All W211 except the early MY03 in the US has navigation prewire. You do not need dealer to program your AGW for the nav to work. You will need to program it if you want the nav info to show up in your dash multi function display, but it's not required for the nav itself to work.

You will need to splitter for the nav to share the tele-aid antenna. I don't know if you can just unplug the tele-aid antenna and use it for nev drive. Give it a try and let us know.
For those who use tele aid you CANNOT just unplug the sat cable and leave it unused...for those who do not use teleaid and do not want to have their car at the dealership for too long when bringing it in for service, I would not advise to leave the teleaid sat cable disconnected either as it will show as a FAILURE in stardiagnose. JUST USE A SPLITTER

The nav drive is recognised without any AGW programming but as teh AGWs already have enough (software) problems by themselves - I advise to get the MOST configuration changed through stardiagnose to limit the problems one can have with the AGW...especially when one has the phone and VR installed.

For the person who has a recognition problem of the nav drive: as long as the nav drive is not included in the MOST ring - it will not be recognised at all...let us know how long the dealer needs to get that figured out.

greetingz,
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Thanks a lot Mbenz. I appreciate your help. Can you email me a price for the splitter?
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MBenzNL

For the person who has a recognition problem of the nav drive: as long as the nav drive is not included in the MOST ring - it will not be recognised at all...let us know how long the dealer needs to get that figured out.

greetingz,
Thanks MBenzNL,
I live in Minnesota or else I would have brought the car to you. I suspect the dealer have little knowledge about these thing. For my car, the optic cable are already prewire and run separate from the AGW module. So I just plug that into the drive, and got that recognition problem. Is there any other optic cable that I need to switch?
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by quoc007
Thanks MBenzNL,
I live in Minnesota or else I would have brought the car to you. I suspect the dealer have little knowledge about these thing. For my car, the optic cable are already prewire and run separate from the AGW module. So I just plug that into the drive, and got that recognition problem. Is there any other optic cable that I need to switch?
if the car is prewired and has a spare fiber cable available - then please be aware of the fact that that fibercable has TWO ends...one end plugs straight into the nav drive...the other end still needs to be added to the fiberring

greetingz,
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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I think I found the problem, one of the optic wire is not connected to the MOST loop. I don't know where to connect this cable to.(picture attached)
If anyone know, please point me to where to connect this into the MOST loop.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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there is another one like that...it is longer and has a black 180 degree connector at the end...it is at the bottom of the B-pillar and is usually stuck there (need to take the B-pillar cover off as you cannot pull fiber without risking to damage it).

make sure that you have two ends and add those tow end to the active fiberring by taking one of those other 180 degree connectors apart (to be seen in the picture) and cross connect the 4 fiber ends (properly).

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MBenzNL
make sure that you have two ends and add those tow end to the active fiberring by taking one of those other 180 degree connectors apart (to be seen in the picture) and cross connect the 4 fiber ends (properly).

greetingz,
Thanks MBenzNL,
I just don't understand the part you said about " cross connect the four fiber ends". I though the 180-degree connector only connect 2 fiber ends together.
I wish one of your stop is in MN. You could solve these problems for me.The dealer did not know anything, they tried to program it last Friday but unsuccessful.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Hi
I took the car to the dealer today. They install the drive and program the display . Everything is working great. Thank you all for your suggestion.
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