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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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SBC Hold..

Anyone that is familiar with the Star system, can the SBC Hold be activated on a N/A car. I would think that since the system has it, it must be just turned off of the N/A market.

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Steve? Can this be done?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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I don't think N/A W211 has a SBC-HOLD. (We, US customers, have a cheap version of SBC; using Winter mode or Comfort mode instead.)
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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What is "winter mode"?

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"Winter" and "Summer" mode are the previous names for what are now called, I think, "Sport" and "Comfort" modes. In either case, it refers to the button that selects whether the car starts off in first or in second gear. I don't think it has anything to do with SBC.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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SBC Hold is a great feature. You depress hard on the dedal at a light and the car stays there.. (as far as I have read). Anyways, I would love to have that.
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Originally Posted by atssystems.com
SBC Hold is a great feature. You depress hard on the dedal at a light and the car stays there.. (as far as I have read). Anyways, I would love to have that.
So does anyone know if it's programable in our SBC?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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I can see why SBC hold is not implemented on US models. Imagine those grandmas stranded on the road because they step on the brake too hard.

Most Europeans car owners are enthusiasts like people on this forum. I'll bet majority of US buyers bought W211 because of the name, not the technical gadgetry. Try explaining the concept of SBC to general W211 owners, I doubt many will understand. And if you include anything "unusual" like SBC hold, I'd bet mbusa will be flooded with complaints.

It sure would be nice if StarDiag can unlock this and other features from the European models.
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"Winter" and "Summer" mode are the previous names for what are now called, I think, "Sport" and "Comfort" modes. In either case, it refers to the button that selects whether the car starts off in first or in second gear. I don't think it has anything to do with SBC.
SBC-HOLD basically holds your car on a slope without pedaling brake which also can be done via Winter mode or Comfort mode.
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Studebaker had the "hill holder" option in the 40s, 50s and 60s. I think it even went back to the late 20s. Mechanical of course, not electronic. Do you suppose any of the old Studebaker people are still at MBUSA? Maybe they could show Mercedes how it is done.
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Studebaker had the "hill holder" option in the 40s, 50s and 60s. I think it even went back to the late 20s. Mechanical of course, not electronic. Do you suppose any of the old Studebaker people are still at MBUSA? Maybe they could show Mercedes how it is done.
The caliber of engineer who made a Studebaker, Duesenberg , or Maybach hasn't been involved in auto making for 20 years... ahh, the good old days.
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SBC-HOLD basically holds your car on a slope without pedaling brake which also can be done via Winter mode or Comfort mode.
no where near the same thing... What you're talking about is using the Torque converter to carry the weight of the car.. which is a great way to 1/2 the life of your transmission.. SBC hold is a BRAKE function, not TRANSMISSION.
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SBC Hold" prevents the vehicle from moving forward during stops at traffic lights. It's no longer necessary for the driver to hold down the brake pedal or use the parking brake.
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Originally Posted by atssystems.com
Anyone that is familiar with the Star system, can the SBC Hold be activated on a N/A car. I would think that since the system has it, it must be just turned off of the N/A market.

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What is the meaning of N/A????
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