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Old 11-21-2005, 11:38 AM
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E350(V6) almost as much HP then Lexus LS430 V8)

The E350 has a V6 with 268HP while Lexus flagship has a V8 with 278HP. Only 10 HP difference. Amazing.

As you know, the Japanese automakers has overestimated their horsepower rating. Lexus rated their LS430 at 290HP but in fact is only 278HP.

Link: http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0508/17/A01-283759.htm
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Originally Posted by Bearded Bandit
The E350 has a V6 with 268HP while Lexus flagship has a V8 with 278HP. Only 10 HP difference. Amazing.

As you know, the Japanese automakers has overestimated their horsepower rating. Lexus rated their LS430 at 290HP but in fact is only 278HP.

Link: http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...A01-283759.htm
Plus you guys have the 7 speed in the E350.. Amazing transmission.
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Dr. Diesel says...

It's not the HP its the torque that matters.

Hate to burst your bubble, but the LS430 puts out 312 lb-ft vs. the MB which puts out 258 lb-ft.

The lexus will "feel" much stronger under normal use since it has more power in the "practical" rpm range.

The MB's peak HP of 268 comes at 6,000 rpm. How often do you access that kind of RPM's....exactly, only when you are "*******" your car.

Horsepower ratings in general are marketing garbage, on everything including cars and lawn mowers. Its a term used because people can relate to.....wow, that tractor has the power of 25 horses!!!

A Briggs and Stratton motor in a Sears Crapsman mower may "have 25 HP."
A Kubota or Yanmar diesel rated at 20 HP must be inferior, right?...LOL.
Horsepower cannot even be measured, its a computation, derived from the torque being produced at specific RPM.

Aviation jet engines produce crazy HP, something like 160,000 HP for a 747 arliner, 40,000 HP per hole. But they don't list that in the specs. Specs call out lbs of thrust....the real measure of useable power.

Ken

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Yea. A 430 or 500 engine would compare better with the Lexus 430. The 350 engine is impressive nonetheless.
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Dead on correct. Many people buy HP, but drive torque (m)

Originally Posted by cdiken
It's not the HP its the torque that matters.

Hate to burst your bubble, but the LS430 puts out 312 lb-ft vs. the MB which puts out 258 lb-ft.

The lexus will "feel" much stronger under normal use since it has more power in the "practical" rpm range.

The MB's peak HP of 268 comes at 6,000 rpm. How often do you access that kind of RPM's....exactly, only when you are "*******" your car.

Horsepower ratings in general are marketing garbage, on everything including cars and lawn mowers. Its a term used because people can relate to.....wow, that tractor has the power of 25 horses!!!

A Briggs and Stratton motor in a Sears Crapsman mower may "have 25 HP."
A Kubota or Yanmar diesel rated at 20 HP must be inferior, right?...LOL.
Horsepower cannot even be measured, its a computation, derived from the torque being produced at specific RPM.

Aviation jet engines produce crazy HP, something like 160,000 HP for a 747 arliner, 40,000 HP per hole. But they don't list that in the specs. Specs call out lbs of thrust....the real measure of useable power.

Ken
This is precisely why many of the 4 cyl rice burners with "high" hp stats feel so damned slow unless you constantly rev them to screaming levels, which gets old and noisy. Fast. Case in point: the Honda S2000.
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Originally Posted by Bearded Bandit
The E350 has a V6 with 268HP while Lexus flagship has a V8 with 278HP. Only 10 HP difference. Amazing.

As you know, the Japanese automakers has overestimated their horsepower rating. Lexus rated their LS430 at 290HP but in fact is only 278HP.

Link: http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0508/17/A01-283759.htm

Using your logic, then Lexus 3.5V6 has more HP @306 and 280lb-ft, it must be more out of this world as compare to MB's new V6.
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My John Deere riding lawnmower has 25hp. So there, nanny nanny boo boo.
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My Craftsman riding mower has 21hp.
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Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races...

old saying.


As for the E350's V6... it's smooth, and very quick.. The only thing that would have made it perfect is if it were an I-6!
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My John Deere riding lawnmower has 25hp. So there, nanny nanny boo boo.
I believe its Nany Nany, Poo Poo :v
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I believe its Nany Nany, Poo Poo :v
In our neck of the woods and where I grew up it was definitly Boo Boo.
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Originally Posted by jprescott
In our neck of the woods and where I grew up it was definitly Boo Boo.
same here.
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was '03 E320 - now - '04 S4
Originally Posted by CE750
Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races...

Maybe for street racing - certainly not in F1.

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