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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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I know that when my Nav sytem (when installed) won't play music cd's while in use. But what about the CD changer, will I be able to play music while using the Nav unit for directions?
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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yes, they are independent systems.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Otto,

Do you know if they will integrate together? For example, on my Honda, when the navi system wants to tell you a direction (because it talks to you), it mutes the stereo (or CD) and then gives the instruction to you and then "un-mutes" the stereo back.

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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 01:48 PM
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i think if you mute the nav, it is muted
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by abhansali
Do you know if they will integrate together? For example, on my Honda, when the navi system wants to tell you a direction (because it talks to you), it mutes the stereo (or CD) and then gives the instruction to you and then "un-mutes" the stereo back.
Can't speak to COMAND II, but on COMAND I any audio from the radio/CD/aux input "quiets" - not mutes - when the Nav lady is speaking. You can control the difference in volume between the Nav lady & other audio.

The phone, on the other hand - if you have the integrated phone, the Nav lady is MUTED any time you are using the phone hands free. Makes sense, but you gotta remember to pay attention to the display instead of counting on voice commands while yer yaking!
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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Does anyone know if there's any truth to the first part of my post? That is, is there only going to be a single slot on the Command ll unit; which houses both the DVD/NAV disc, and musical CD's when played?

On my 03' 4runner...the DVD/NAV disc is hidden away; and not accessible.

If this is true; and I can not play music CD's at all when using the NAV unit...i'm going to have to pick up the CD changer. Because from my understanding, I will be able to play music then.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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This is my understanding that if don't have a CD changer, you can either use the Navi or play a CD but not both. I find this to be a stupid design, my Honda is like your car where the Navi DVD is hidden under the seat and so the CD player slot is a CD player slot. This is the way it is on the S-Class also and in the S-class it is even worse since the changer is in the trunk!!

So get the CD changer!!
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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This really pisses me off! But oh well, I already have the damn car Does anyone know what the dealers are charging to stick in a changer? Is it $400 installed like the option? I think I heard something about dealers not even having them yet.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 11:14 PM
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$400 is the price from the factory. I think if you install it afterwards, they will also charge you installation fees, etc., so maybe $600-$800??? I'm not sure for the CD Changer, but I know for the v60 phone, it is $1600 from the factory. The dealer said if we install it afterwards it would be around $1900-$2K.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by abhansali
$400 is the price from the factory. I think if you install it afterwards, they will also charge you installation fees, etc., so maybe $600-$800??? I'm not sure for the CD Changer, but I know for the v60 phone, it is $1600 from the factory. The dealer said if we install it afterwards it would be around $1900-$2K.
Additionally, if bought/installed after your car purchase, you bought a part.

Warranty? ONE YEAR ONLY!!
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 09:45 AM
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wesam, dont worry, you will be able to play music while on mute, mb isnt that dumb, i am pretty sure that is why they offered a 6 cd, and in the dash...they are totally different systems, but can read if something is in the other player, but dont worry, we only got the nav and changer for this reason
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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bmms8, I'm not sure about this. If you don't have the CD Changer, then you only have one slot. Either you put in the Navi DVD or you put in a music CD, but you can not have both. So either you use the navi or you listen to music. This is the way it works on the COMAND I system also (from what I understand).

If you have the CD Changer then I agree you are okay. You would leave the Navi DVD in the single slot and put your music in the changer.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by abhansali
bmms8, I'm not sure about this. If you don't have the CD Changer, then you only have one slot. Either you put in the Navi DVD or you put in a music CD, but you can not have both. So either you use the navi or you listen to music. This is the way it works on the COMAND I system also (from what I understand).

If you have the CD Changer then I agree you are okay. You would leave the Navi DVD in the single slot and put your music in the changer.
I agree. Without the changer it's either music or Nav.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 12:09 PM
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Although in the article about the "new" COMAND, which is pitched on the E55 AMG announcement article on Germancarfan, I think, it talks about Bluetooth, etc etc, *AND* makes a point of it having 2 slots - one DVD and one CD - to remedy this shortcoming in 'old' COMAND.

Unknown how many features of this system will make it to the US version (my dealer was skeptical that Bluetooth would be in the US version for example)

The link to page 5
http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...011.002&Page=5

and the relevant snippet:
quote (with comments from the site)
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improves clarity in navigation and TV mode. The navigation system can
also be extended to include a dynamic route guidance function as an

****2 slots and MP3****
option. There is a separate slot for video DVDs and audio CDs, and a
connection point for an MP3 player. The new COMAND system has 30 audio
********
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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jposhea,

I hope to God that, that article is correct. But i'm not too sure that is it. Because the E-Class brochure reads:

"COMMAND can play an audio CD in the DVD drive when not navigating"

Now, this doesn't make it 100% clear as to how COMMAND ll will be set up. However, it does lead one to believe it will be like the first COMMAND system. Why would they mention the above fact if the DVD drive is hidden out of the way like most NAV systems?

Maybe we just need to face it, the Germans aren't much when it comes to electronic design. Buy a Siemens house phone and you'll know what I mean.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by abhansali
bmms8, I'm not sure about this. If you don't have the CD Changer, then you only have one slot. Either you put in the Navi DVD or you put in a music CD, but you can not have both. So either you use the navi or you listen to music. This is the way it works on the COMAND I system also (from what I understand).

If you have the CD Changer then I agree you are okay. You would leave the Navi DVD in the single slot and put your music in the changer.
66% correct.

There is an additional aux. outlet in the glove compartment in the 208 w/COMAND.

By setting the COMAND on AUX you can navigate in addition to playing CDs, tapes, MPV through the aux outlet in the glove box.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:58 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it as to what it is and does...
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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I have not seen anything that purports to be documentation on the new navigation system. There are some posts showing UK and German sites but the US system was supposed to be a new system as I understood it.
If not, there would have been some information available instead of the mystery we have seen. Now it has been pay your money (we will give you a discount if you do) and then we will tell you what it is later.

I admit I paid my money but still have not been able to find out anything about it. I have called MBz and they say they have nothing on it yet, even tho it is due out in a couple of months. I did find out it is made by Becker.

So.....maybe all the concern is for nothing at this point. I did order the CD player so maybe it is easier for me to not be concerned.
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This is not really currently relevant, but this was released during the first quarter of this year ...

WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Harman International Industries, Inc. (NYSE:HAR) identified Mercedes-Benz as the source of a significant new award for the design and manufacture of an innovative, fully integrated digital infotainment/telematics system for the Mercedes-Benz S Class range.

Based on Harman's optical bus, "MOST", this new system provides multi-media, DVD based navigation, Internet access, radio and music reproduction, hands free telephone and voice activation. The audio will be Harman's proprietary new seven channel Logic 7 system.

Dr. Sidney Harman, Executive Chairman of the Board, Harman International, said, "This major new award represents over $200 million in annual incremental sales. This remarkable system will establish a new benchmark in infotainment/telematics including innovative bit stream processing and storage technologies. First shipments for the all new Mercedes S Class are scheduled for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2005.

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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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My dealer told me that if the new DVD-Nav takes too long to come out or I don't like it when it is released, he will refund my $1,625.
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