05 CDI or 07 Bluetec ?
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As would I. I had ordered a 2009 E320 Bluetec, P2, all options, designo espresso edition (I would have strongly considered graphite if the interior leather was still green instead of boring corteccia (gray)), and my order was rejected because designo packages are no longer available for MY2009, only designo paint. This is so stupid considering the best part of the designo package is the interior, and the Bluetec is already the most limited with interior choices (no 2-tone).
It's too bad MB is doing away with the nice options. I have a feeling that the new W212 will offer us several new ones to choose from though.
Was designo interior available on the 2008 Bluetecs? It seems that MB always offers some extra nice option one year, but takes away something from the previous year - i.e. nice COMAND in 2009 but no designo interior. Same with ML - nice COMAND and facelift but AdBlue
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Yes, I agree. Is the designo graphite the one option offered on the W210s with the silver exterior and green interior? I did see ONE E55 that way and it was nice in an unusual way.
It's too bad MB is doing away with the nice options. I have a feeling that the new W212 will offer us several new ones to choose from though.
Was designo interior available on the 2008 Bluetecs? It seems that MB always offers some extra nice option one year, but takes away something from the previous year - i.e. nice COMAND in 2009 but no designo interior. Same with ML - nice COMAND and facelift but AdBlue
It's too bad MB is doing away with the nice options. I have a feeling that the new W212 will offer us several new ones to choose from though.
Was designo interior available on the 2008 Bluetecs? It seems that MB always offers some extra nice option one year, but takes away something from the previous year - i.e. nice COMAND in 2009 but no designo interior. Same with ML - nice COMAND and facelift but AdBlue
Designo espresso was unchanged, always Mocha Black with Sand leather and Poplar wood, except for 2007, which was absoltely stunning with pastel yellow leather and umber maple wood, 2008 reverted back.
As we all know, designo only exists as two paint options for 2009 (Mocha Black and Graphite). What completely ruins it is the lack of 2-tone interior on the luxury-only models (S211, Bluetec) or AMG.
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So does mine. I have never been able to understand SBC brake feel complaints mine are perfect. Maybe by '06 they had tweeked them to perfection. I'm almost afraid to replace the pads for fear of losing some of the perfection. I also like the knowledge of how smart they are in terms of braking in turns etc and the rain feature.
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Designo Graphite on the MY03-06 211 was designo Graphite paint graphite-green leather and I believe poplar wood. For the facelift, the interior leather became corteccia (dark grey) and the wood switched to Cinnamorra Matt.
Yes, I agree. Is the designo graphite the one option offered on the W210s with the silver exterior and green interior?
Sure wish they offerred a "designo mocha" interior & ventilated seats on the '09 GL's.
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As we all know, designo only exists as two paint options for 2009 (Mocha Black and Graphite). What completely ruins it is the lack of 2-tone interior on the luxury-only models (S211, Bluetec) or AMG.
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I would get an 07 for the following reasons:
7G Transmission
V6 is pretty damn rock solid
Looks
No SBC Brakes
Better Electronics - Much more reliable
More standard options
Looks better with the new bumper and rear taillights.
7G Transmission
V6 is pretty damn rock solid
Looks
No SBC Brakes
Better Electronics - Much more reliable
More standard options
Looks better with the new bumper and rear taillights.
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I guess you have to ask yourself why you are getting a diesel in the first place. If its for mileage then I think the pre 07 wins. Right now in these parts diesels are a financial loser relative to the gas cars. Wish I knew if the price of diesel was going to drop enough in the future for it to make sense to buy one.
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Mileage is a factor in my purchasing decision, but saving money on fuel is not the primary concern for me. What nobody ever mentions is this ... I don't like having to refuel every couple of days, I like having that 600 + range. Also, I intend on keeping this car for a long time, so I want the longevity of a diesel engine.
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Yep. The sound of and the smoothness of the gas car is better still but you don't get the range that he is looking for.
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Is that average mileage or highway? If average what is the city highway split? If average and a reasonalbe mix the diesel could start paying for itself even with the current diesel / gas price ratio
