2006 E320 CDI trip impressions
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It was rumored to for quite some time for the W211 but it never got the technology. Starting in 2007 the Bluetec name was used and the emissions were significantly reduced, but they never got urea injection. Many said they didn't have an effective way to enforce the tank getting filled or prevent tampering. Apparently the new ones provide so many starts after the tank gets low, and show a warning on the I/C saying "50 starts to required Adblue refill" or something similar. If you do not refill it by the time it reaches 0, it will not start.
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It was rumored to for quite some time for the W211 but it never got the technology. Starting in 2007 the Bluetec name was used and the emissions were significantly reduced, but they never got urea injection. Many said they didn't have an effective way to enforce the tank getting filled or prevent tampering. Apparently the new ones provide so many starts after the tank gets low, and show a warning on the I/C saying "50 starts to required Adblue refill" or something similar. If you do not refill it by the time it reaches 0, it will not start.
Thanks for the information.
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They kind of skip over that part in the sales pitch.
I had a C6Z06 Corvette that I tracked and it would go into "limp home" mode when the tires got hot on the race track. The TPMS system couldn't be disabled. I ended up removing the sensors and sealing them in a a tube I put 30PSI in and left behind the seat. Honestly, who dreams up this stuff?
Still loving the CDI.
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Well, it had the best of intentions, but I doubt many of the engineers thought it through. As Polar Bear has stated -- it is a stepping stone. I would rather wait till the next iteration that removes the AdBlue Urea.
Did you get the KD-Box info I emailed you?
Did you get the KD-Box info I emailed you?
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Can you please confirm if the Kleemann tuning box is a 2 terminal plug and play or does it need wire splicing? In a photo posted by Kosher Benz the box has lots of wires coming out of it. How much did you pay?
I am talking about the KD box for the inline 6, not the V-6.
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I've had the '06 CDI for 2 years now and I love it. I average 30-32mpg on a full tank (mixed driving, which includes a lot of driving in New York City). On the highway, I can top out at 45mpg if I'm careful, but usually get around 40mpg.
Winter mileage is a bit worse, but I still manage 27-31 mpg on my commute to work (about 10 miles, mostly suburban driving with some stop lights and stop signs, etc.).
Winter mileage is a bit worse, but I still manage 27-31 mpg on my commute to work (about 10 miles, mostly suburban driving with some stop lights and stop signs, etc.).
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I've had the '06 CDI for 2 years now and I love it. I average 30-32mpg on a full tank (mixed driving, which includes a lot of driving in New York City). On the highway, I can top out at 45mpg if I'm careful, but usually get around 40mpg.
Winter mileage is a bit worse, but I still manage 27-31 mpg on my commute to work (about 10 miles, mostly suburban driving with some stop lights and stop signs, etc.).
Winter mileage is a bit worse, but I still manage 27-31 mpg on my commute to work (about 10 miles, mostly suburban driving with some stop lights and stop signs, etc.).
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i usually average 37-42mpg on the freeway, depending on the conditions. the trip i got 45mpg was a 30-40 mile trip to the airport that was probably 90-95% freeway, 5-10% local highway. i averaged somewhere between 55-65mph (wasn't going too fast) and was fairly conservative on the gas pedal, not trying to maintain a constant speed, but easing off the gas on slight uphills and giving more gas to regain speed on the downhills.
on 200-300 mile road trips, i frequently average over 40mpg (going 70-80mph)
i'm wondering if the kd box mod does in fact increase mileage 5% (their claim) if you drive conservatively... anyone know?
on 200-300 mile road trips, i frequently average over 40mpg (going 70-80mph)
i'm wondering if the kd box mod does in fact increase mileage 5% (their claim) if you drive conservatively... anyone know?
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I drive the same route day to day, and I am getting 6.5 percent via the pump method 328 verus 330 miles driven. 6.5 percent improvement in city driving, but I don't drive like a badass either. I have never broken 43 mpg...45 just seems unbelievable to me...I would love to know what you are doing to get that.
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They can do pretty good on the highway. An example of a short trip and long trip.
This is in US Gallons, of course.
This is in US Gallons, of course.
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45MPG is very impressive. I was wondering if you were putting a 100lbs of air in the tires and using kerosene for motor oil.
I still like how fast I can go and get relatively good mileage. This trip had at least 20 minutes of dinking around in stop and go before I took this picture. I ran a steady 80-100MPH for a couple of hours and ended up at 35.5MPG. That's rockin' in my book.
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Off topic, but one of the key reasons I bought the CDI was because it had some of that "right thing to do" feel about it and I liked the novelty. That I can get 28MPG around town and mid 30's on the highway in a pretty refined package feels good even though it can't be cost justified. I'm not preaching as I have enough carbon sins in my life but I was disheartened to see Prius sales fall 42% since October and pick-up sales taking off again. People are so short sighted.
I still like how fast I can go and get relatively good mileage. This trip had at least 20 minutes of dinking around in stop and go before I took this picture. I ran a steady 80-100MPH for a couple of hours and ended up at 35.5MPG. That's rockin' in my book.
![2006 E320 CDI trip impressions-img_0090.jpg](https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/e-class-w211/147416d1542222143t-2006-e320-cdi-trip-impressions-img_0090.jpg)
Off topic, but one of the key reasons I bought the CDI was because it had some of that "right thing to do" feel about it and I liked the novelty. That I can get 28MPG around town and mid 30's on the highway in a pretty refined package feels good even though it can't be cost justified. I'm not preaching as I have enough carbon sins in my life but I was disheartened to see Prius sales fall 42% since October and pick-up sales taking off again. People are so short sighted.
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45MPG is very impressive. I was wondering if you were putting a 100lbs of air in the tires and using kerosene for motor oil.
I still like how fast I can go and get relatively good mileage. This trip had at least 20 minutes of dinking around in stop and go before I took this picture. I ran a steady 80-100MPH for a couple of hours and ended up at 35.5MPG. That's rockin' in my book.
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Off topic, but one of the key reasons I bought the CDI was because it had some of that "right thing to do" feel about it and I liked the novelty. That I can get 28MPG around town and mid 30's on the highway in a pretty refined package feels good even though it can't be cost justified. I'm not preaching as I have enough carbon sins in my life but I was disheartened to see Prius sales fall 42% since October and pick-up sales taking off again. People are so short sighted.
I still like how fast I can go and get relatively good mileage. This trip had at least 20 minutes of dinking around in stop and go before I took this picture. I ran a steady 80-100MPH for a couple of hours and ended up at 35.5MPG. That's rockin' in my book.
Attachment 147416
Off topic, but one of the key reasons I bought the CDI was because it had some of that "right thing to do" feel about it and I liked the novelty. That I can get 28MPG around town and mid 30's on the highway in a pretty refined package feels good even though it can't be cost justified. I'm not preaching as I have enough carbon sins in my life but I was disheartened to see Prius sales fall 42% since October and pick-up sales taking off again. People are so short sighted.
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I also agree w/ the sentiment of the last few posts. I bought the diesel and started making batches of biodiesel from waste vegetable oil b/c I thought it was a good "green" thing to do. It was a fun project/hobby, but is very time consuming. A local farmer mixes in biodiesel w/ the ultra low sulfur diesel in all his tractors b/c the biodiesel has better lubricity (and I guess the old diesel w/ sulfur isn't available to him anymore).
Anyways, to get back on topic, I recently contemplated buying a new Jetta TDI b/c I heard you could get 60+mpg! I am seriously considering the new Prius hybrid. Since I drive a lot, I should really do more to emit fewer carbon emissions.
Here is an interesting article for Boulder GT3--if you don't drive your gas guzzlers too much, don't feel so bad about it.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...errari_feature
The author of the article is kind of kidding, but it the point he makes is valid.
Anyways, to get back on topic, I recently contemplated buying a new Jetta TDI b/c I heard you could get 60+mpg! I am seriously considering the new Prius hybrid. Since I drive a lot, I should really do more to emit fewer carbon emissions.
Here is an interesting article for Boulder GT3--if you don't drive your gas guzzlers too much, don't feel so bad about it.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...errari_feature
The author of the article is kind of kidding, but it the point he makes is valid.
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45MPG is very impressive. I was wondering if you were putting a 100lbs of air in the tires and using kerosene for motor oil.
I still like how fast I can go and get relatively good mileage. This trip had at least 20 minutes of dinking around in stop and go before I took this picture. I ran a steady 80-100MPH for a couple of hours and ended up at 35.5MPG. That's rockin' in my book.
Attachment 147416
Off topic, but one of the key reasons I bought the CDI was because it had some of that "right thing to do" feel about it and I liked the novelty. That I can get 28MPG around town and mid 30's on the highway in a pretty refined package feels good even though it can't be cost justified. I'm not preaching as I have enough carbon sins in my life but I was disheartened to see Prius sales fall 42% since October and pick-up sales taking off again. People are so short sighted.
I still like how fast I can go and get relatively good mileage. This trip had at least 20 minutes of dinking around in stop and go before I took this picture. I ran a steady 80-100MPH for a couple of hours and ended up at 35.5MPG. That's rockin' in my book.
Attachment 147416
Off topic, but one of the key reasons I bought the CDI was because it had some of that "right thing to do" feel about it and I liked the novelty. That I can get 28MPG around town and mid 30's on the highway in a pretty refined package feels good even though it can't be cost justified. I'm not preaching as I have enough carbon sins in my life but I was disheartened to see Prius sales fall 42% since October and pick-up sales taking off again. People are so short sighted.
I don't know (doubt) if this car will sell for this, but look at the price http://www.e320cdi.com/98E300DT/gallery.html
I also like having something "different." And also, here is my car during the gas shortage here in NC several months ago. Notice the bags on the "other" pumps.
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I like the uniqueness of it too. Also the MPG is great. I picked up an S-class for a steal, but I discovered the car performs fuel wise much worse in the snow than the E...In the summer it will be fun, but still I might as well start a bonfire with money in it...
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Good posts here and they reflect my observations as well. I too am always amazed at the passing power from 70-85 mph. We average around 35 mpg with our 2005 model. I would also like to add I am very pleased with the reliability. We are just crossing 130,000 miles on the odometer and I am amazed how well the car still drives. It still drives like new.
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Good posts here and they reflect my observations as well. I too am always amazed at the passing power from 70-85 mph. We average around 35 mpg with our 2005 model. I would also like to add I am very pleased with the reliability. We are just crossing 130,000 miles on the odometer and I am amazed how well the car still drives. It still drives like new.
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I'm back on top with the CDI:
I had a service experience today that was as good as the one last week was bad.
A very generous board member has ordered a KD box for me that I can't wait to play with. I did some crude benchmarking today and with favorable conditions I got 38.8MPG at 64MPH. We'll see what the box does.
I had a service experience today that was as good as the one last week was bad.
A very generous board member has ordered a KD box for me that I can't wait to play with. I did some crude benchmarking today and with favorable conditions I got 38.8MPG at 64MPH. We'll see what the box does.
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So what is all this talk about the KD box? Should I get one? I have 50K miles on my '06 CDI now and wouldn't mind playing around w/ it a bit. I think it had more than enough power, but if this will give me even more (just in case) plus add to my fuel savings when I drive conservatively, maybe it's worth looking into...
Does the box basically "trick" the ECU and/or increase the turbo boost?
Does the box basically "trick" the ECU and/or increase the turbo boost?
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