issybus

hey there

can somebody help me out whit my problem whit the navigation of a command aps whit dvd .
the problem is the maps are confused and he tells me that i'm located somewhere miles away from here .(i'm from belgium and the gps is in england)
the problem started whit a copy dvd of the navi .
they told me a newer version will sold my problem so i bought version 9 but this din't help to.( it was nearly 400euro's.)
i tooked the fuse out but this didn't help to.
can somebody help me whit this ,please .
and does somebody know how to reset the command aps?
maybe that will help.





iv'e got a e220 of 2004 estate automatic.
o ,i want to tune the car up to an e270 whit a software tuning ,is this good or bad,some say it's bad for the clutch and motor to,is it?
sorry for my bad englisch

Taimoor

Ok, first this question.
The gps shows you are in England but does it respond or move when you move?
Meaning it could simply be that the connection from the antenna is broken for somereason.
In other words, does it show you are connected to satellites?

issybus

yes it moves when i'm riding so i think it's not the antenna
grtz

Diesel Benz

Wrong. This is what Taimoor must have been after, if your Comand shows you are moving but the location is not right, it is the antenna.

Did you check how many satellites it receives as suggested? The question mainly being if it is "0" or "-".

issybus

i've got connection ,when the car moves the screen moves to en showes that i'm riding.how can i check the satelites ?
thx

Diesel Benz

If I wanted to say it straight I would say you are a bit stubborn with your interpretation. Since I'm often pretty stubborn myself, I'll just say that the fact that the map screen moves when the car moves proves that your gyros and speed signal are working! The point is that the car is built to be able to track its position even at tunnels or underground parking lots etc. where satellites signals are not available. It then estimates the car position based on the last known position and measured movements from gyros (possibly speed signal, steering angle sensors etc.).

Now that you have lost your satellite connection because of the bad antenna or disconnected antenna cable, the navi unit is working with gyros only. The error accumulates and after a while the unit shows you being at a wrong place. The incremental movements are still pretty accurate, just that the reference position is not accurate any more.

I don't have the same navi as you have but you should find a system menu or something where you can find how many satellites the unit can track. Use your Comand manual if the menus do not seem to have that info.

If it shows "0", the antenna is broken. If it shows "-", it is the cable (could be the antenna but more likely the cable).

issybus

thx benz i'm going to check it out tomorrow and let you know something.
i think you're whright because the navi neeld is moving but not turning when i turn.

issybus

i did check it today and there are only zero's.tomorrow i'm in the garage(i help sometimes my friend,it's his garage )and if there's no work i'm gonna open the trunk .
can anybody help me where can i find pictures of the car an the installation.i saw it on the net but i didn't save it .
grtz

Diesel Benz

The GPS antenna should be at the top of the tailgate, below the plastic panel.

The navi processor should be at the left, behind the panel at the trunk (you know where you put the DVD).

If you can try with another temporary GPS antenna attached directly to the navi processor, that would help. Just need to let it see the sky for quite a while.

DESAL

Issybus - did you ever take the DVD drive out of it's bracket in the trunk?? If so you might have damaged the antenna . I emailed you this web site that has info on COMAND navigation and other info. http://www.mercedestechstore.com/pdfs/index.htm

Diesel Benz

You could point to a specific document there, a bit too much to browse through if one isn't interested on other than the GPS antenna.

I'm still guessing it is the antenna, I've seen it go both on the sedan (where it is more affected by rain etc.) and the wagon.

I guess you mean the antenna cable may have broken if the navi processor has been removed? This must be possible but in this case the HU should typically show "-" for the number of satellites.

DESAL

Diesel, I sent Issybus under section #416 Mod 3.2W W211 (3rd from the bottom). Also I see that there is an antenna splitter #416 HO Navigation (4th from the top). That might be the cause. I also suggested to him that he go to the dealer and have them run the COMAND through the computer. At this point I think he is looking for a needle in stack.

Diesel Benz

Actually if the car is equipped with Tele-Aid, the cluster should report a malfunction if the Tele-Aid unit did not see a working antenna. But I don't know if it gives any message if it just assumes that the antenna cannot see satellites (instead of it being broken).

I've never heard the splitter being faulty but a disconnected cable could always be an issue.

Fine if you gave more accurate directions with the documents, I just could not see that from your post.

DESAL

Didn't know about Tele-Aid. I don't have it on my vehicle. Sorry about the directions.

By the way do you happen to know the difference in the new COMAND update. The last one I have installed is W211 589 14 22 00. The new one is W211 589 15 22 00. My local MB dealer has no idea!

Diesel Benz

You mean directions about the splitter or the Startek stuff? That was a good point. I'm not sure what you are sorry about.

"14" is for a US Comand. "15" is for the Navi processor (common for ECE and US). What a shame if your workshop does not know the difference.

issybus

i've bin to an mb dealer today and it is the car navigator.it's not reading the disc and give's an system error .the're going to repair it if it's not a big kost.a new one was 2500 euros .

DESAL

Guess that repair will put a back on your face.

issybus

i hope so ,i'm still waiting for a message from the dealer.
o in i did a little search and in germany it cost 678 euros.
tats a litle bit cheaper isn't it?hihi.

issybus

hi i'm smiling back again like you said.
yesterday i left the car by the dealer and because they changed an part of the reader.it cost me 150euros for the repair teh reader and now it needs a re-install
of the software because ithas to find the satelites again and that takes a long time (4houres he thinks).
at last .
thanks to all the support
grtz izzy

issybus

the gps antenna (receiver )was broken to .
yesterday i payed 650euros for the repair included a new dvd of europe because the other one didn't work good.
i have to order now a new gps antenna (receiver)and the hole system will work normally.
we tested it with an external antenna