need to upgrade navigation map
need to upgrade navigation map
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The '09s have a similar looking (NAV) Comand, but don't use that disc at all as they are completely different systems. Thats why they arent specified.
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The model year & class statement refers to the Disc programming format, meaning it is meant to be read by those car models ONLY not a C Class or a CLK for instance, which may have a drive manufacturer other than the drive in our cars & needs a different program format to read & display data. There is a Version number on that disc that will tell you how recent the info is on that disc. You may have the newest or next to the newest data already, which means you don't need to spend the money on a useless upgrade..
The '09s have a similar looking (NAV) Comand, but don't use that disc at all as they are completely different systems. Thats why they arent specified.
The '09s have a similar looking (NAV) Comand, but don't use that disc at all as they are completely different systems. Thats why they arent specified.
On the dvd disc, it says the following:
MY04-MY05 CL-CLASS
MY04-MY06 E- & S-CLASS
MY05 SL- & SLK-CLASS
MY06 CLS-CLASS
BQ 6 46 0209
HARMAN/BECKER automotive systems
Is it version number? From the number, how can I tell its recent or not?
Another questions is: Why it can't display house number? it only gives direction to street. My portable Garmin can direct me to exact house. Does the new map addressed the problem?
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Thanks for your prompt reply.
On the dvd disc, it says the following:
MY04-MY05 CL-CLASS
MY04-MY06 E- & S-CLASS
MY05 SL- & SLK-CLASS
MY06 CLS-CLASS
BQ 6 46 0209
HARMAN/BECKER automotive systems
Is it version number? From the number, how can I tell its recent or not?
Another questions is: Why it can't display house number? it only gives direction to street. My portable Garmin can direct me to exact house. Does the new map addressed the problem?
On the dvd disc, it says the following:
MY04-MY05 CL-CLASS
MY04-MY06 E- & S-CLASS
MY05 SL- & SLK-CLASS
MY06 CLS-CLASS
BQ 6 46 0209
HARMAN/BECKER automotive systems
Is it version number? From the number, how can I tell its recent or not?
Another questions is: Why it can't display house number? it only gives direction to street. My portable Garmin can direct me to exact house. Does the new map addressed the problem?
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Even when you enter an exact house number (as you work your way down the left hand soft keys, it will always give you an address range to choose from based on the exact address you had entered.
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Can the navigation direct me to the exact address? It only gives me the range while Garmin can find me the exact house number. Right now I have to use Garmin when direction is needed.
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What you are running into is...
...the problem, for the owner, that MB chose to put a truly pathetic NAV system in these cars that is far outclassed by any $70-$100 refurb. TomTom or Garmin. Whoever made this choice at MB ought to be horse whipped and then punished. The system (no touch-screen, very poor maps, clunky interface) is just bad and all about you can do about it is what I did, buy a cheap gps that was designed by someone who knew what they were doing and ignore the in-car system.
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The range you must select from is based on the number of possible addresses. It will give you a small enough range to get you there. We are intelligent people. It is NOT as accurate as ZIP+4. I have NEVER fotten to "You have reached your destination" and still been lost. Its not as exact as my Son's Honda which says "Your destination is on the Right", though.
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It's worse than that if you are not in a major city
In our town of ~40,000 people in MI, the database knows next to nothing about any street other than a handfull of the most major ones. If I enter the address to my home, it just gets me near a city region and I have to go into the unmapped region and look for the street and then the address. Neither the street nor the house are less than 50 years old.
We certainly are intelligent people and that is why we can easilly see that whoever chose this software and/or the database was NOT being intelligent or considerate of the people who buy these $50,000+ cars, given that every cheap standalone gps and every built-in I have ever seen (not that many, I grant you) does a FAR better job.
Hey, it's a very poor design, but it's the only choice we have in the cars we have other than a standalone. We may have to accept it, but there is no reason to make excuses or allowances for it...it is just very, very poor...at it's best and MB ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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We certainly are intelligent people and that is why we can easilly see that whoever chose this software and/or the database was NOT being intelligent or considerate of the people who buy these $50,000+ cars, given that every cheap standalone gps and every built-in I have ever seen (not that many, I grant you) does a FAR better job.
Hey, it's a very poor design, but it's the only choice we have in the cars we have other than a standalone. We may have to accept it, but there is no reason to make excuses or allowances for it...it is just very, very poor...at it's best and MB ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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It will allways get you within sight distance of where you want to be. If you can see house # 1 you can see House #4... business are easier to spot.
The range you must select from is based on the number of possible addresses. It will give you a small enough range to get you there. We are intelligent people. It is NOT as accurate as ZIP+4. I have NEVER fotten to "You have reached your destination" and still been lost. Its not as exact as my Son's Honda which says "Your destination is on the Right", though.
The range you must select from is based on the number of possible addresses. It will give you a small enough range to get you there. We are intelligent people. It is NOT as accurate as ZIP+4. I have NEVER fotten to "You have reached your destination" and still been lost. Its not as exact as my Son's Honda which says "Your destination is on the Right", though.
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Was that supposed to explain why the update is so expensive from a dealer (if copies are frequently used)?
Be careful with any internet source, the DVD may load fine but you may find the update making your navi processor a brick. I'm not sure if this is from an intentional hack on the code or something different.
Be careful with any internet source, the DVD may load fine but you may find the update making your navi processor a brick. I'm not sure if this is from an intentional hack on the code or something different.
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I don't mind spend a little bit fortune on update, but not as much as dealer price. Do you guys all pay dealer price for the update?
If it is too expensive, I might just use Garmin.
If it is too expensive, I might just use Garmin.
Was that supposed to explain why the update is so expensive from a dealer (if copies are frequently used)?
Be careful with any internet source, the DVD may load fine but you may find the update making your navi processor a brick. I'm not sure if this is from an intentional hack on the code or something different.
Be careful with any internet source, the DVD may load fine but you may find the update making your navi processor a brick. I'm not sure if this is from an intentional hack on the code or something different.
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Map updates are relatively expensive for cars, not only MB, unfortunately.
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All dealer parts departments offer a discount to the trade. If the counter guy likes you he can extend almost the trade discount to you too. Check as many dealers as you can for their price. They will differ.
Also e-mail the parts department of a dealer not in your state. They will jump at the chance to make a sale they otherwise have no chance of making & they are all being pressed to increase their numbers to show more profit.
I'd buy genuine if I were you. You're only going to get one once & its the surest way not to have problems. There are versions of the map data disk that caused routing problems & you can't be sure which one your copy really is.
Also e-mail the parts department of a dealer not in your state. They will jump at the chance to make a sale they otherwise have no chance of making & they are all being pressed to increase their numbers to show more profit.
I'd buy genuine if I were you. You're only going to get one once & its the surest way not to have problems. There are versions of the map data disk that caused routing problems & you can't be sure which one your copy really is.
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I'm pleased with my NAV; it gets me where I need to go. Hasn't failed yet. As far as I know Tom, Garmin, don't integrate with COMAND. But if those $70 systems fit your needs, then put the suction cup on your windshield and go for it!
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It doesn't tell me even on which side of road is my destination. I ahve MY09 navigation. My Lexus and BMW navigations do that. Actually latest MB navigation is downgrade, I have W210 with navigation and it is a light year ahead of the latest one, although has less size screen. And as backup I always keep Nuvi with me.
