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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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help rims not fitting right
Just got new set of e63 amg rims for my 2003 e500. the backs fit no problem but on the fronts the dust cover where the grease is on the front axle sticks out to far so the center hub cap cover dont fit. Is there a way to fix this. thanks
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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what do you exactly mean by this the whole assembly or just the covers
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Are they true OEM E63 AMG wheels or are the rep's? Where did you purchase them? My guess is they're reps. I have OEM E63 P30 wheels and they fit with no problem.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Are they true OEM E63 AMG wheels or are the rep's? Where did you purchase them? My guess is they're reps. I have OEM E63 P30 wheels and they fit with no problem.
i am all most positive that they are oem the have the amg symbol on it. They fit good it just i cant get the hub cap cover on any ideas.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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i am all most positive that they are oem the have the amg symbol on it. They fit good it just i cant get the hub cap cover on any ideas.
The logo means squat. Alot, if not most reps will have the AMG stamp. The way to tell for sure is there is a MB symbol along side of an actual part number. It will probably start with A211......

Where did you buy them?
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
The logo means squat. Alot, if not most reps will have the AMG stamp. The way to tell for sure is there is a MB symbol along side of an actual part number. It will probably start with A211......

Where did you buy them?
rim dealer up in north jersey. rims are on car currently so have to wait untill tomorrow to check the part number. would it be that my car is a 2003 and rims are 2009
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rim dealer up in north jersey. rims are on car currently so have to wait untill tomorrow to check the part number. would it be that my car is a 2003 and rims are 2009
Only MB dealerships have access to OEM MB wheels. Your rim dealer in North Jersey sold you reps.

I thought you said that the fronts wouldn't fit? So how can they be on the car?

The AMG wheels from a 2003-2009 W211 will fit on a 2003-2009 non-AMG W211 without drama.

You bought them new? How much? This will tell you for sure if they're true OEM AMG wheels.
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Only MB dealerships have access to OEM MB wheels. Your rim dealer in North Jersey sold you reps.

I thought you said that the fronts wouldn't fit? So how can they be on the car?

The AMG wheels from a 2003-2009 W211 will fit on a 2003-2009 non-AMG W211 without drama.

You bought them new? How much? This will tell you for sure if they're true OEM AMG wheels.
no they fit on the car and able to drive it the only thing that does not fit is the center hub cap that snaps in, picture attached is the exact rims bought and arrow to what is not fitting.
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no they fit on the car and able to drive it the only thing that does not fit is the center hub cap that snaps in, picture attached is the exact rims bought and arrow to what is not fitting.
Those aren't E63 wheels. You should have purchased the set I am selling. True OEM E63 wheels with tires. Those look like stock W204 sport wheels.
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no they fit on the car and able to drive it the only thing that does not fit is the center hub cap that snaps in, picture attached is the exact rims bought and arrow to what is not fitting.
I don't think I've ever seen those wheels on an E63 before. Again, how much were they? That will go a long way in figuring out if they're an OEM MB wheel.

For instance: My OEM MB E63 030 wheels retail for just shy of 10,000.00. Now, these are 2peice wheels and completely over priced, but you get the idea. But I don't think there is a set of any OEM MB wheels that will cost you less than 3000.00 for the set, if they're real. At first glance, they look an awful lot like these cheap reps:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-x-...Q5fAccessories
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
I don't think I've ever seen those wheels on an E63 before. Again, how much were they? That will go a long way in figuring out if they're an OEM MB wheel.

For instance: My OEM MB E63 030 wheels retail for just shy of 10,000.00. Now, these are 2peice wheels and completely over priced, but you get the idea. But I don't think there is a set of any OEM MB wheels that will cost you less than 3000.00 for the set, if they're real. At first glance, they look an awful lot like these cheap reps:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-x-...Q5fAccessories
here is exactly where i got them:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/pts/1449823079.html
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here is exactly where i got them:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/pts/1449823079.html
Reps. The same ones in the ebay ad I posted. And by the way, the car pictured is not an E63.
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here is exactly where i got them:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/pts/1449823079.html
mine just have a gunmetal powder coat finish
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Reps. The same ones in the ebay ad I posted. And by the way, the car pictured is not an E63.
yea i know but it is a e class so they should fit
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A first clue should've been the fact that he shows a side pic with 19" tires on a E55. Second clue is the fact that he shows 2 different center caps. I'm with the rest, they appear to be replicas.
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mine just have a gunmetal powder coat finish
just found the post of the one i bought they have that gunmetal finish but the other center caps because i didn't buy the tires of of him
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/pts/1449825993.html
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just found the post of the one i bought they have that gunmetal finish but the other center caps because i didn't buy the tires of of him
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/pts/1449825993.html
Again, not OEM wheels and not proper fitment. The problem you have is with the front wheel's offset. The offset is incorrect which is causing that little hub dust cover to intrude into the center cap's cavity, therefore not allowing it to snap in.
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Again, not OEM wheels and not proper fitment. The problem you have is with the front wheel's offset. The offset is incorrect which is causing that little hub dust cover to intrude into the center cap's cavity, therefore not allowing it to snap in.
besides the way it looks is it going to effect car. and thanks for everyones help
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Again, not OEM wheels and not proper fitment. The problem you have is with the front wheel's offset. The offset is incorrect which is causing that little hub dust cover to intrude into the center cap's cavity, therefore not allowing it to snap in.
also is there any way to make it work thanks
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also is there any way to make it work thanks
You can try to add a spacer. Depending on how much room you need inside that little cavity, you can purchase hub-centric spacers. Maybe a 3mm or 5mm will be enough for your needs. This essentially increases the offset of the wheel.
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
You can try to add a spacer. Depending on how much room you need inside that little cavity, you can purchase hub-centric spacers. Maybe a 3mm or 5mm will be enough for your needs. This essentially increases the offset of the wheel.
will i need longer lug nuts and if i don't do this right away will it effect the car
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will i need longer lug nuts and if i don't do this right away will it effect the car
Depends. If all you need is 3 more mm, then your oem bolts will probably suffice. But, if you need 10mm or more, than yep...longer bolts.

Best to try to see if you can get your money back and buy proper wheels. I know it sucks, but these cars are already so finicky that anything you put them that's not a high quality or OEM part really pisses them off.
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
You can try to add a spacer. This essentially increases the offset of the wheel.
Actually it decreases the offset of the wheel.

low offset-wheel further out
high offset-wheel further in
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Actually it decreases the offset of the wheel.

low offset-wheel further out
high offset-wheel further in
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