Class Action suit over M272 M273
11-11-2014, 04:33 PM
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Worn guide for timing chain
- For definitive diagnose have dealer or independent pull fault codes.
Vibration
- While making turns at low speeds, most likely caused by transfer case.
Check your PM.
- For definitive diagnose have dealer or independent pull fault codes.
Vibration
- While making turns at low speeds, most likely caused by transfer case.
Check your PM.
11-11-2014, 09:59 PM
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07 E350, 99 c280, 98 c230 Sold, 89 300 SEL Sold, 83 300TD Sold, 79 300D Sold
There's a couple other threads out there that mention how to check to see if your balance shafts are wearing away or not. There's also a couple of youtube videos on how to check it. One way is to look for metal shavings in the oil pan. You could try a pencil magnet at your next oil change. As some feel that it only affects 10-15% of the vehicles out there, there could be an 85-90% chance that your engine is ok so it wouldn't make sense to just dump it without checking it out first.
12-06-2014, 09:04 PM
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Class Action suit! Majeed Seifi, et al. v. Mercedes Benz USA LLC, Case No. 3:12-cv-05
Does anyone have any information about the CLASS ACTION SUIT? THAT one, the nominal subject of this thread! A lot of Mercedes are driven by lawyers. Help us out!
The information for which I am looking is whether any of you owners (present or past) of the affected M272 and M273 engines have received any notice of this suit or invitations to join the class of plaintiffs. Also, if you have received such paperwork, from whom did you receive it (name and mailing address). There must be a "settlement administrator." (Perhaps this information is buried in the middle of the previous pages. By page number three, this thread had deteriorated into philosophy about unreliable consumer products. The last couple of pages are all about requests to check VINs, information that is available from EPCnet Online - see below.)
I did my own homework last night, so I didn't have to impose on Konigstiger to discover that my engine is one of those affected. I used EPCnet Online: https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp. EPCnet is the official MB Electronic Parts Catalog. You have to subscribe, but the subscription is free for subscribers in N. America. You have to give a credit card, but that is just to prove that you do live in NA. The website is meant for MB professionals, for whom it is part of their life. For the rest of us, the website is very difficult. Read the directions very carefully. You will be able to input your VIN and find your Data Card. That will give you your engine number.
Then, "M272 engines sold between 2004 and 2008 with engine serial numbers below 2729..30 468993 often show early wear of the balance shaft gears." (Wikipedia) The corresponding serial number for M273 engines is 2739..30 088611. (Compare the last eight digits.)
The Mercedes-Benz M272 & M273 Engine Class Action is Majeed Seifi, et al. v. Mercedes Benz USA LLC, Case No. 3:12-cv-05493, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. The present case status is found at http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-s...-class-action/. As of 12/01/14, the plaintiffs had moved for a PARTIAL summary judgment. If granted, MB would be found liable in principle, but further proceedings would have to be held to determine the amount MB has to pay. After the lawyers get the first bite, the remainder would be divided among the members of the class. The next hearing is 01/15/15.
The plaintiffs are represented by Roy A. Katriel of the Katriel Law Firm and Gary S. Graifman of Kantrowitz Goldhamer & Graifman PC. It is not clear to me whether the class of plaintiffs for this suit is nationwide or only of Calif. owners and lessees. Atty. Katriel's website says he is petitioning on behalf of Calif. owners and lessees. Atty. Graifman's website is not clear.
The information for which I am looking is whether any of you owners (present or past) of the affected M272 and M273 engines have received any notice of this suit or invitations to join the class of plaintiffs. Also, if you have received such paperwork, from whom did you receive it (name and mailing address). There must be a "settlement administrator." (Perhaps this information is buried in the middle of the previous pages. By page number three, this thread had deteriorated into philosophy about unreliable consumer products. The last couple of pages are all about requests to check VINs, information that is available from EPCnet Online - see below.)
I did my own homework last night, so I didn't have to impose on Konigstiger to discover that my engine is one of those affected. I used EPCnet Online: https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp. EPCnet is the official MB Electronic Parts Catalog. You have to subscribe, but the subscription is free for subscribers in N. America. You have to give a credit card, but that is just to prove that you do live in NA. The website is meant for MB professionals, for whom it is part of their life. For the rest of us, the website is very difficult. Read the directions very carefully. You will be able to input your VIN and find your Data Card. That will give you your engine number.
Then, "M272 engines sold between 2004 and 2008 with engine serial numbers below 2729..30 468993 often show early wear of the balance shaft gears." (Wikipedia) The corresponding serial number for M273 engines is 2739..30 088611. (Compare the last eight digits.)
The Mercedes-Benz M272 & M273 Engine Class Action is Majeed Seifi, et al. v. Mercedes Benz USA LLC, Case No. 3:12-cv-05493, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. The present case status is found at http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-s...-class-action/. As of 12/01/14, the plaintiffs had moved for a PARTIAL summary judgment. If granted, MB would be found liable in principle, but further proceedings would have to be held to determine the amount MB has to pay. After the lawyers get the first bite, the remainder would be divided among the members of the class. The next hearing is 01/15/15.
The plaintiffs are represented by Roy A. Katriel of the Katriel Law Firm and Gary S. Graifman of Kantrowitz Goldhamer & Graifman PC. It is not clear to me whether the class of plaintiffs for this suit is nationwide or only of Calif. owners and lessees. Atty. Katriel's website says he is petitioning on behalf of Calif. owners and lessees. Atty. Graifman's website is not clear.
12-17-2014, 08:43 PM
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VIN DataCard
Hello everyone. This is my first post. I would like to thank you all for the wealth of information here.
I believe my beloved car is one of those affected. Could someone please decode my VIN for me: WDBUH87J06X189366 and please PM me the data card. I have had no luck.
The dealership said that my check engine light was on due to a balance shaft issue and quoted a repair cost of $4500! I hope to find a solution to all this soon.
Thanks all!
I believe my beloved car is one of those affected. Could someone please decode my VIN for me: WDBUH87J06X189366 and please PM me the data card. I have had no luck.
The dealership said that my check engine light was on due to a balance shaft issue and quoted a repair cost of $4500! I hope to find a solution to all this soon.
Thanks all!
12-18-2014, 11:52 AM
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Engine is within affected range, check your PM.
12-21-2014, 07:23 PM
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12-22-2014, 09:53 AM
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12-22-2014, 09:57 AM
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Could someone please also check my VIN: WDBRF52H57F846717
C230 2007.
It was dead and towed on my vacation last week due to crankshaft sensor.
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C230 2007.
It was dead and towed on my vacation last week due to crankshaft sensor.
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01-04-2015, 10:19 AM
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30 409980 is within affected range.
01-05-2015, 01:00 AM
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What is the probability of a car manufactured in the affected range that will run into this problem? Is it 50%, 90%, or 100%? My car is running ok now at 57K mileage. Having another CEL P0012 and looking to replace the solenoid myself. If the probability is high, it is better to get rid of the car now while it is still running.
01-06-2015, 01:47 PM
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can someone please check my VIN WDBRN52JX6A877141 to see if it is in effected range.
01-06-2015, 03:46 PM
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30 249171 is within affected range.
01-08-2015, 01:57 AM
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I'm new to the board. Could someone please check mine and see if it's affected? The VIN: WDBUF82J25X166912 Thank you very much
01-08-2015, 10:35 AM
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112 engine is not affected.
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01-15-2015, 06:26 PM
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Engine removal from 2006 R350
Has anyone removed the engine from a 2006 R350? The MB service manual shows lowering it from the car while on a car lift. Is it possible to remove it with an engine hoist?
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01-31-2015, 09:57 AM
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I am looking at buying one of these 2 cars can you please tell me if these cars have this issue
WDDNG86X39A269384
WDBUF90X37X215521
WDDNG86X39A269384
WDBUF90X37X215521
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