Shimmy while driving at approx. 60-70mph
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Warped rotors causing vibration when not braking?
I'm more inclined to think that since you changed the thrust/control arms you are more likely to have messed up the alignment. You could have a toe-in/out or castor/camber issues. I suggest you get your alignment checked out before swapping more parts. You could also check yourself to see how the tires are wearing.
Good luck.
I'm more inclined to think that since you changed the thrust/control arms you are more likely to have messed up the alignment. You could have a toe-in/out or castor/camber issues. I suggest you get your alignment checked out before swapping more parts. You could also check yourself to see how the tires are wearing.
Good luck.
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E500 -03
Warped rotors causing vibration when not braking?
I'm more inclined to think that since you changed the thrust/control arms you are more likely to have messed up the alignment. You could have a toe-in/out or castor/camber issues. I suggest you get your alignment checked out before swapping more parts. You could also check yourself to see how the tires are wearing.
Good luck.
I'm more inclined to think that since you changed the thrust/control arms you are more likely to have messed up the alignment. You could have a toe-in/out or castor/camber issues. I suggest you get your alignment checked out before swapping more parts. You could also check yourself to see how the tires are wearing.
Good luck.
I changed the thrust arms because of this issue. It´s been following me quite a few months now.
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The new rotors were warped from the start. I thought that the shimmy during braking was because of failed big hydro bushings. I switched them out and the shimmy is still there.
The only thing left is warped rotors?
I have a slight shimmy left at about 60mph. Barely noticable though.
The only thing left is warped rotors?
I have a slight shimmy left at about 60mph. Barely noticable though.
There may be a chance of a slightly bent rim that can get by on a tire balance machine. Do you remember hitting any potholes lately??
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I would be shocked if the NEW rotors were warped...Its possible but I just never heard of it. Usually there is no shimmy while driving until you use the brakes.
There may be a chance of a slightly bent rim that can get by on a tire balance machine. Do you remember hitting any potholes lately??
Steve
There may be a chance of a slightly bent rim that can get by on a tire balance machine. Do you remember hitting any potholes lately??
Steve
Like i stated earlier, the wheels work perfect on my dads W211. No shimmy at all.
After changning the upper ball joints the shimmy is almost totally gone except for when the car has stood still for some time. That goes away pretty quick. The only slight barely noticeable shimmy i have now is at approx. 60mph.
The real problem is the vibrations while braking. I can see the wheel shake even in low speeds while braking.
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Are you sure that the new rotors don't have deposits on them? Rotors rarely warp. 9/10 times someone says their rotors are warped, it's actually pad deposits on the rotors. Did you bed the brakes in properly?
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My tech said that i didn´t need to bed the new rotors in. Just drive like usual without braking extremely hard. How do you actually bed in rotors and or how many miles?
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E500 -03
Ordered new OEM rotors today instead of the Brembos. I read that lot of people had problems with Brembos.
Now, what can i do to prevent the same thing from happening? Should i change the new pads too? They are one month, 5000 miles old.
Is it necessary to bed in new rotors if you don´t change pads?
I´m so confused about bedding in new brakes, there seems to be a lot of different techniques. Some say that you have to brake hard ten times from 60mph to 10mph without coming to a full stop and then ten more times.
Some say that you should brake gently from 60mph to 30mph approx. ten times.
Some say that you should drive as usual but be gentle with the brakes the first 500 miles.
Seriously, who has the time or place to go through the procedure that StopTech recommends???
Now, what can i do to prevent the same thing from happening? Should i change the new pads too? They are one month, 5000 miles old.
Is it necessary to bed in new rotors if you don´t change pads?
I´m so confused about bedding in new brakes, there seems to be a lot of different techniques. Some say that you have to brake hard ten times from 60mph to 10mph without coming to a full stop and then ten more times.
Some say that you should brake gently from 60mph to 30mph approx. ten times.
Some say that you should drive as usual but be gentle with the brakes the first 500 miles.
Seriously, who has the time or place to go through the procedure that StopTech recommends???
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I just installed new MB rotors on mine. They come covered in primer paint. The parts guy said i don't need to do anything, just put them on and i'm ready to go - brakes will rub off the primer. I drove it yesterday and today. I tried not braking too hard and they seem fine - very smooth. My original rotors never warped so i stuck with the MB rotors.
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E500 -03
Turns out I had a play in a upper ball joint so I switched it out together with the hydrobushings on the lower control arms (not thrust arms). I also did an alignment.
I also switched the rotors to MB OEM as the new Brembos were awful and warped already after 4000 miles.
Today, the car brakes smoothly and the shimmy is almost gone while driving. I think I can sense a tiny bit of vibration in the steering wheel sometimes. It´s worst if the car has been standing still for a few days, the tires are new so I guess they tend to deform a bit. They even out after a couple of miles though.
My father has an E320 CDI facelift MY2008 and his ride (AIRmatic) and steeringfeel is overall much firmer than mine. I guess it´s because his is a facelift and updated. He rides on 17 inch rims while I have 18´s.
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I think the tire deformation has more to it than meets the eye!
I don't have the suspension issue as every single component has been changed.
I have E55 brakes, so I hope and pray it has nothing to do with them. I would dread to change any of those components!
Maybe it's time for another alignment..2 already in the last 3 months..oh well..
I don't have the suspension issue as every single component has been changed.
I have E55 brakes, so I hope and pray it has nothing to do with them. I would dread to change any of those components!
Maybe it's time for another alignment..2 already in the last 3 months..oh well..
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Actually, my suspension is fine, i have a totally new suspension in the rear. However I feel that facelift cars drive and ride so much better. They feel more firm and direct.
I don´t think alignment is going to help you. Maybe it has something to do with the steering?
I don´t think alignment is going to help you. Maybe it has something to do with the steering?
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Believe it or not, I have this creaking / clunking sound for the past 1 year, that I have posted a few threads back, and have just discovered, is from the anti sway bar bush, and a quack dealer made me change my steering rack and removed my column too. So I know it's not from those either! Just quite frustrated, if you ask me!
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Did you ever change the wheel bearing like others have mentioned? I am having the same shimmy now (only when the car is straight not in a turn or curve) and have a slight scraping sound while driving, when braking the scraping sound gets worse. If I brake hard enough the sound goes away, wierd??? This is what led me to rule out pads..
This sound started to happen as soon as I put on bigger 18" wheels from the OEM 16"s
This sound started to happen as soon as I put on bigger 18" wheels from the OEM 16"s
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E500 -03
Did you ever change the wheel bearing like others have mentioned? I am having the same shimmy now (only when the car is straight not in a turn or curve) and have a slight scraping sound while driving, when braking the scraping sound gets worse. If I brake hard enough the sound goes away, wierd??? This is what led me to rule out pads..
This sound started to happen as soon as I put on bigger 18" wheels from the OEM 16"s
This sound started to happen as soon as I put on bigger 18" wheels from the OEM 16"s
It got better when I changed an upper ball joint that was bad but still not good. I bought new tires two months ago and I thought, maybe the wheels are out of balance already? So I rebalanced my wheels two days ago and now it drives very smoothly like it´s supposed to.
So after changing every component in the front suspension and even new rotors and tires + rebalancing like 5 times I think it´s ok. (touch on wood).
