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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Thumbs up 211 still rules!!

just saw my first, in the flesh, 2004 bmw 5 series (light silver) and - wow - it did not look good!! Before I bought my E500, I first went to bmw to check out the 5 series and learned that a new body style was coming out so I backed away and headed straight for MB and so glad I did!!
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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You know wise people said, don't mess with success. I guess Chris Bangle had his headphone on and missed that message.

A lot of car magazines are loyal to BMW 5 series. I'm wondering if anyone knows of any performance comparison between the 211 and the new 5. Usually Car and Driver or Motor Trend put cars in this category through the rigors to see who comes out on top.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by rksharma
You know wise people said, don't mess with success. I guess Chris Bangle had his headphone on and missed that message.

A lot of car magazines are loyal to BMW 5 series. I'm wondering if anyone knows of any performance comparison between the 211 and the new 5. Usually Car and Driver or Motor Trend put cars in this category through the rigors to see who comes out on top.

Based strictly on performance, I don't see the 211 measuring up to the new 5.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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5 is clearly a better performer. But its a mutant. Performance is only utilized 5% of the time you are driving. most of the time, comfort and convenience is more important for those of us that are very busy. Plus, you have to look at it 100% of the time.. which ruins everything regardless.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Hey Brav - Are you still selling the M3? Can you post some of the info for me. Thanks.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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any performance comparison between the 211 and the new 5
no doubt, e60 beats w211 in performance -- try driving them by yourself. but e60 cannot beat w211 in both exterior and interior. (you will not marry a "not pretty" girl because of her great cooking skills, will you?)
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Hey Brav - Are you still selling the M3? Can you post some of the info for me. Thanks.
Yes, still available. FYI, it has every possible option, MSRP was 60,355 new. Asking 54K, negotiable.

Woops, link didnt work... I'll PM you the ad.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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I love the analogy of new 5 and the "not pretty" girl I'm going to share it with my pals that drive the recent years 5 series cars.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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my w211 was purchased just this past august but i almost waited for the new 5 since the wife wanted it. i'm glad my gamble paid off!
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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AUTOCAR in the UK did a back to back test recently and favoured the BMW - and yet all through the article they complained about its looks.

In my mind, if you ain't got the looks you're a non starter.

They also showed a fully loaded 5 series and took pictures next to a maroon coloured E220 diesel with no options.

The E was not shown in its best light.

No offence to E owenrs on the board, but maroon is not the colour to go for IMO.

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by marc777
AUTOCAR in the UK did a back to back test recently and favoured the BMW - and yet all through the article they complained about its looks.

In my mind, if you ain't got the looks you're a non starter.

They also showed a fully loaded 5 series and took pictures next to a maroon coloured E220 diesel with no options.

The E was not shown in its best light.

No offence to E owenrs on the board, but maroon is not the colour to go for IMO.

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Which isse was this Marc? Ive read 2 Autocar comparisons and the first one (petrol...320....530i) Jaguar won with MB second and bmw third!
The other comparison was the 530d (which was tested without the new bmw technology.....e.g.active steering) and they said the car drove better without the options but still said the E320 cdi was their choice.....

Which issue/comparo was this?
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Re: 211 still rules!!

Originally posted by mbprince
just saw my first, in the flesh, 2004 bmw 5 series (light silver) and - wow - it did not look good!! Before I bought my E500, I first went to bmw to check out the 5 series and learned that a new body style was coming out so I backed away and headed straight for MB and so glad I did!!

YEAH!!!!!
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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Re: 211 still rules!!

We're going on the 405 last night, where the new 5 serie is right next by (525i).

My gf keep insist that it was a Pontiac, even when I showed her the BMW grill when (horrible) traffic set my car in front of the bimmer.

Only when I slowed down and showed the BM badge from the back that she believed it.

We finally agree on something: the new 5 is as ugly as the new 7.

Originally posted by mbprince
just saw my first, in the flesh, 2004 bmw 5 series (light silver) and - wow - it did not look good!! Before I bought my E500, I first went to bmw to check out the 5 series and learned that a new body style was coming out so I backed away and headed straight for MB and so glad I did!!
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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this is true, I am starting to see them on the road now, what a mess.

the bimmer.org boards are starting to report dealers discounting 1500-2000. its a smart move, don't scare away a potential customer with MSRP pricing, because demand is not going to outstrip supply on these things once the intial "frenzy" ends.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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The timeless quality look the E exudes offers a continual appearance of quality and class. The Bimmer, while very sporty- seeks to challange the envelope in such a way as to leave non-enthusiasts wondering what it is.

I for one never feel that the Bimmer compares except as a pure track competitor, In luxury and class, the MB wins hands down. Even againsty the 7 series, our E sems more attarctive, luxurious and timeless.

And in all honesty, except for a few pops here and there, I rarely would use the marginal advantage in performance the 5 seems to offer.

My days are long, stressful and complicated to say the least. A long drive in the luxury and total comfort of my E is a pleasure. The Bimmer, I felt like I should be getting ready for a track workout to prove my cars worth.

IN Germany, when I visit my family- They tell me the MB is considered the more elite, yet very powerful , of the two.....Isn't that what we want ?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Went car shopping this week. Finally got to see the 530. I don't know what BMW is thinking. I walked around and around the car and did find a few angles that didn't look too bad but generally it was a big no-no. Did GM design the front, I know Bangle did the rear.
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