WIS of wheel alignment
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WIS of wheel alignment
Does anybody have a copy of the WIS for the wheel alignment on a 2009 e320 ?
Please post it. Does if it does specify the ranges, please include them.
Thanks,
Please post it. Does if it does specify the ranges, please include them.
Thanks,
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How much with the four A0003300018 bolts?
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The WIS BE40.20-p-1001-13G front camber adjust is on the web.
I could not find BE40.20-p100#-13G for the front suspension where #= 2 or 3.
and could not find BE40.20-p-100#-09T for the rear suspension,where #=1, 2 or 3.
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Thanks Isstay. Great set of WIS alignment
Looks like the 127.0.0.1_38562 - AR40.pdf (153.5 KB, no adjustment without the adjustment bolt) is different from the AR40.20-P-0322T (about 21' adjustment without adjustment bolt). I have a 2009 e211 bluetec, so it's a w211.022 and the EPC gave the adjust bolt part number A0003300018.
Which WIS is the correct one for my car?
If it the -0322T, I will not buy the adjustment bolts.
Looks like the 127.0.0.1_38562 - AR40.pdf (153.5 KB, no adjustment without the adjustment bolt) is different from the AR40.20-P-0322T (about 21' adjustment without adjustment bolt). I have a 2009 e211 bluetec, so it's a w211.022 and the EPC gave the adjust bolt part number A0003300018.
Which WIS is the correct one for my car?
If it the -0322T, I will not buy the adjustment bolts.
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This is only reference table - your caster will change if your springs and shocks are extended or compressed and thus why this table is provided - to give you most accurate number based on vehicle load.
You need to buy those bolts, but they are also limited in adjustment values. In general if you did not make any big suspension overhauls and changes they will do it for you.
You need to buy those bolts, but they are also limited in adjustment values. In general if you did not make any big suspension overhauls and changes they will do it for you.
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This is only reference table - your caster will change if your springs and shocks are extended or compressed and thus why this table is provided - to give you most accurate number based on vehicle load.
You need to buy those bolts, but they are also limited in adjustment values. In general if you did not make any big suspension overhauls and changes they will do it for you.
You need to buy those bolts, but they are also limited in adjustment values. In general if you did not make any big suspension overhauls and changes they will do it for you.
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Isstay,
I've read that some of the C-class car comes with the adjustment bolts. Do you know if the adjustment bolts comes with the 2009 e320 bluetec The EPC on that bolt ths A0003300018 TS bolt Parts Kit for adjustment work only. No other bolt is listed. Does not mean that it's already on the car?
I've read that some of the C-class car comes with the adjustment bolts. Do you know if the adjustment bolts comes with the 2009 e320 bluetec The EPC on that bolt ths A0003300018 TS bolt Parts Kit for adjustment work only. No other bolt is listed. Does not mean that it's already on the car?
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No is not already installed.
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That's real strange. Your WIS shows a single slot when it's a double slotted on your 4-Matic and the other WIS shows a double slotted bolt on the RWD's front adjustment bolts (while EPC part number is for single slotted bolt).
I did look and there is no slot on the bolts. I will need to buy them. Now do I trust the EPC's part number or the WIS diagram (without a part number). What's the part number for a double slotted bolt? Are they the same diameter?
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Thanks Isstay.
That's real strange. Your WIS shows a single slot when it's a double slotted on your 4-Matic and the other WIS shows a double slotted bolt on the RWD's front adjustment bolts (while EPC part number is for single slotted bolt).
I did look and there is no slot on the bolts. I will need to buy them. Now do I trust the EPC's part number or the WIS diagram (without a part number). What's the part number for a double slotted bolt? Are they the same diameter?
That's real strange. Your WIS shows a single slot when it's a double slotted on your 4-Matic and the other WIS shows a double slotted bolt on the RWD's front adjustment bolts (while EPC part number is for single slotted bolt).
I did look and there is no slot on the bolts. I will need to buy them. Now do I trust the EPC's part number or the WIS diagram (without a part number). What's the part number for a double slotted bolt? Are they the same diameter?
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RWD cars used double slotted bolts (I am positive on this because I installed them on my car) in vertical position, 4Matic uses single slot bolt in horizontal orientation. The picture I am attaching is for 4Matic and shows single slot bolt in horizontal slot placement. As you can see it says: "Adjust camber and caster at the front axle" and shows single slot bolt and you also can see one of the half shafts (existing only on 4Matics).
After Alignment Alignment all in degress
L R Front
-1.5 -1.2 Camber Out of range -1.1 to -0.5
10.0 10.1 Caster
0.09 0.04 Toe
4.9 5.4 SAI
3.5 4.2 Included Angle
-0.3 Cross camber Almost out of range -0.3 to 0.3
0.0 Cross Caster
-0.4 Cross SAI
0.13 Total Toe
L R Rear
-1.2 -1.6 Camber Out of range -1.5 to -0.5
0.18 0.21 Toe
0.4 Cross Camber
0.39 Total Toe
-0.01 Thrust Angle
Car is pulling very slightly to the right with very worn tires.
The camber was not adjusted cause no camber bolt. Should a set be put in? My mechanics doesn't carry them, so it will be up to me to supply them. What's the part number?
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RWD cars used double slotted bolts (I am positive on this because I installed them on my car) in vertical position, 4Matic uses single slot bolt in horizontal orientation. The picture I am attaching is for 4Matic and shows single slot bolt in horizontal slot placement. As you can see it says: "Adjust camber and caster at the front axle" and shows single slot bolt and you also can see one of the half shafts (existing only on 4Matics).
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Here's a diagram for clarification of the front camber on the RWD W211.
It looks like some adjustment is possible without the double slotted bolt. But the EPC part number 000 330 00 18 looks like a single slotted bolt. Do I have the correct part number for the double slotted bolt kit?
Are the rear camber adjustable with a simple camber bolt?
It looks like some adjustment is possible without the double slotted bolt. But the EPC part number 000 330 00 18 looks like a single slotted bolt. Do I have the correct part number for the double slotted bolt kit?
Are the rear camber adjustable with a simple camber bolt?
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Is it just the placement of the slotted bolt or does the lower arm need to move in for positive and out for negative camber? If the latter, should there be about 1/3 to 1/2 of the camber adjustment by leaving the bolt in the center position and moving the arm outward?
Here's a diagram for clarification of the front camber on the RWD W211.
It looks like some adjustment is possible without the double slotted bolt. But the EPC part number 000 330 00 18 looks like a single slotted bolt. Do I have the correct part number for the double slotted bolt kit?
It looks like some adjustment is possible without the double slotted bolt. But the EPC part number 000 330 00 18 looks like a single slotted bolt. Do I have the correct part number for the double slotted bolt kit?
There is no camber bolt for adjustment on the back offered by MB unless you find some aftermarket kit, only toe can be adjusted.
I do not know what you did to your car but if is not been lowered or in accident and you have alighment issues. I will advice you to check the status of your bushings and ball joints. It made huge difference in my car after ball joints and control and torsion arm bushings replacement w/o even performing alighment on it. Inner edge tire wear stopped right away.
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The bolt is fixed into subframe opening and in center position between bushings ridges, it should not allow any movement unless those ridges are been damaged when taking the bolt out or installing it (should never be turned), thus why MB does not recommend wheel alighment after control arm bushing replacement. Camber is increased by moving the arm out and setting the bolt on the inner ridges and decreased when you push the arm inward and set the bolt on outer ridges.
No adjustment is possible with out the bolts unless the bushing ridges are been damaged. This is the correct part number and is double slotted bolt.
There is no camber bolt for adjustment on the back offered by MB unless you find some aftermarket kit, only toe can be adjusted.
I do not know what you did to your car but if is not been lowered or in accident and you have alighment issues. I will advice you to check the status of your bushings and ball joints. It made huge difference in my car after ball joints and control and torsion arm bushings replacement w/o even performing alighment on it. Inner edge tire wear stopped right away.
No adjustment is possible with out the bolts unless the bushing ridges are been damaged. This is the correct part number and is double slotted bolt.
There is no camber bolt for adjustment on the back offered by MB unless you find some aftermarket kit, only toe can be adjusted.
I do not know what you did to your car but if is not been lowered or in accident and you have alighment issues. I will advice you to check the status of your bushings and ball joints. It made huge difference in my car after ball joints and control and torsion arm bushings replacement w/o even performing alighment on it. Inner edge tire wear stopped right away.
It sounds like the front camber can only be adjusted in 0.40 steps due to the bushing ridges. If the camber bolt and control arm is shift over from -1.5 to -1.1 on the left and -1.2 on the Right with no camber bolt or -0.0 with the adj bolt). Will this effect the caster--should I have the adjustment bolt installed at this time? Why not just break off the ridges and have varible adjustable instead of just 3 steps on the camber and caster?
The front end is good. It has been inspected by the dealer 7,000 miles ago and by an indy last week, and firestone alignment yesterday.
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Because next time you hit pot hole you will need alignment and eventually those aluminum bushings inserts will be down to the rubber and then worst will come.
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If the bolts were milled flat instead of slotted where they meet the ridges, it would of allowed the bolts to me more adjustable (more than -0.4, 0, and +0.4).
