Will E320 CDI wagons come here?
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Re: Will E320 CDI wagons come here?
Originally posted by westsidewagon
The E320 CDI is coming to the USA soon. Will the wagon come?
If not, why????
The E320 CDI is coming to the USA soon. Will the wagon come?
If not, why????
For now, just write MBUSA and ask for it. I've done it to the point of making them sick. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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I have the March, 2004 issue of the magazine "Car & Driver". and they have a great article on Diesels.
They posted a 0-60 time of the MB E320 CDI at 6.4 seconds compared to 7.4 for a gasoline E320. 0-100 in 18.1 for the CDI and 19.7 for the gasoline E320.
The gasoline E320 is faster to 120 mph, but who cares in the USA?
The CDI has a faster 1/4 mile, rolling 5-60 time, 30-50 mph, and 50-70 acceleration times.
The E320 CDI does 30-50 mph in 3.3 seconds while the gas E320 does it in 3.8 seconds. 50-70 in the diesel takes 4.5 seconds and 5.4 seconds for the gas E320.
The E320 CDI put out 201 hp @ 4,200 rpm and a massive 369 lb-ft of torque at just 1,800 rpm.
The diesel also gets a combines mpg rating at 34 compared to the gas E320's 24 mpg combined.
The E320 CDI put out less carbon-dioxide, grams per mile than the gas E320 at 294 compared to 383.
Go pick up the March, 2004 issue of "Car & Driver."
They posted a 0-60 time of the MB E320 CDI at 6.4 seconds compared to 7.4 for a gasoline E320. 0-100 in 18.1 for the CDI and 19.7 for the gasoline E320.
The gasoline E320 is faster to 120 mph, but who cares in the USA?
The CDI has a faster 1/4 mile, rolling 5-60 time, 30-50 mph, and 50-70 acceleration times.
The E320 CDI does 30-50 mph in 3.3 seconds while the gas E320 does it in 3.8 seconds. 50-70 in the diesel takes 4.5 seconds and 5.4 seconds for the gas E320.
The E320 CDI put out 201 hp @ 4,200 rpm and a massive 369 lb-ft of torque at just 1,800 rpm.
The diesel also gets a combines mpg rating at 34 compared to the gas E320's 24 mpg combined.
The E320 CDI put out less carbon-dioxide, grams per mile than the gas E320 at 294 compared to 383.
Go pick up the March, 2004 issue of "Car & Driver."
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I believe there might be a problem with the diesel fuel that the USA currently refines. The sulphur content is extremely high and apart from pollution problems, the sulphur will certainly not add to the performance of this terrific engine.
My previous 320CDI was serviced according to the ASSYT on the vehicle and this usually worked out every 22000 to 23000 miles. I queried this with the dealer because I always used to have my cars serviced every 12000 miles.
The 320CDI is also an extremely quiet engine and it is only at tick-over when you are stood outside the car that you realise it is a diesel.
The 270CDI is a 5 cylinder engine and in my own opinion it is slightly noiser and JUST not quite as smooth. Having said that, the 270CDI is still a wonderful engine and is well suited to the E-class.
Good luck with your quest in getting these marvellous engines imported into the USA
John
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My previous 320CDI was serviced according to the ASSYT on the vehicle and this usually worked out every 22000 to 23000 miles. I queried this with the dealer because I always used to have my cars serviced every 12000 miles.
The 320CDI is also an extremely quiet engine and it is only at tick-over when you are stood outside the car that you realise it is a diesel.
The 270CDI is a 5 cylinder engine and in my own opinion it is slightly noiser and JUST not quite as smooth. Having said that, the 270CDI is still a wonderful engine and is well suited to the E-class.
Good luck with your quest in getting these marvellous engines imported into the USA
John
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Five states currently don't allow the CDI' sbecause of emissions (MA, CA, NY, NJ, and some other one). In 2007, by law, all diesel available throughout the US will have lower sulfur content, making the CDI legal in all states.
Once again, unless you plan to take your car to the track or Autox, or drive like a maniac with the rpm's above 5000, all you really need is torque. You just need some measure of horsepower for highway driving, but not that much (200hp is plenty).
Around the city, torque is king. Not only does the CDI offer a massive 369 lb-ft at just 1800rpm, it produces close to 300 lb-ft at just 1000 rpm!!! (basically at idle)
For now let's just all email MBUSA until they get sick of it. That way we will have awesome CDI engines (including the 400CDI) in many cars, not just the E.
(I should be gettign my C&D in the mail soon).
Once again, unless you plan to take your car to the track or Autox, or drive like a maniac with the rpm's above 5000, all you really need is torque. You just need some measure of horsepower for highway driving, but not that much (200hp is plenty).
Around the city, torque is king. Not only does the CDI offer a massive 369 lb-ft at just 1800rpm, it produces close to 300 lb-ft at just 1000 rpm!!! (basically at idle)
For now let's just all email MBUSA until they get sick of it. That way we will have awesome CDI engines (including the 400CDI) in many cars, not just the E.
(I should be gettign my C&D in the mail soon).
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Your point about torque and the diesel is true. It always used to amaze me when my previous 300SD could pull out from the stoplight at twice the acceleration of any gasoline engined car next to me. I'd be up to highway legal speed in seconds and the rest of the pack would lag behind until the next stoplight.
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Originally posted by westsidewagon
I have the March, 2004 issue of the magazine "Car & Driver". and they have a great article on Diesels.
They posted a 0-60 time of the MB E320 CDI at 6.4 seconds compared to 7.4 for a gasoline E320. 0-100 in 18.1 for the CDI and 19.7 for the gasoline E320.
The gasoline E320 is faster to 120 mph, but who cares in the USA?
The CDI has a faster 1/4 mile, rolling 5-60 time, 30-50 mph, and 50-70 acceleration times.
The E320 CDI does 30-50 mph in 3.3 seconds while the gas E320 does it in 3.8 seconds. 50-70 in the diesel takes 4.5 seconds and 5.4 seconds for the gas E320.
The E320 CDI put out 201 hp @ 4,200 rpm and a massive 369 lb-ft of torque at just 1,800 rpm.
The diesel also gets a combines mpg rating at 34 compared to the gas E320's 24 mpg combined.
The E320 CDI put out less carbon-dioxide, grams per mile than the gas E320 at 294 compared to 383.
Go pick up the March, 2004 issue of "Car & Driver."
I have the March, 2004 issue of the magazine "Car & Driver". and they have a great article on Diesels.
They posted a 0-60 time of the MB E320 CDI at 6.4 seconds compared to 7.4 for a gasoline E320. 0-100 in 18.1 for the CDI and 19.7 for the gasoline E320.
The gasoline E320 is faster to 120 mph, but who cares in the USA?
The CDI has a faster 1/4 mile, rolling 5-60 time, 30-50 mph, and 50-70 acceleration times.
The E320 CDI does 30-50 mph in 3.3 seconds while the gas E320 does it in 3.8 seconds. 50-70 in the diesel takes 4.5 seconds and 5.4 seconds for the gas E320.
The E320 CDI put out 201 hp @ 4,200 rpm and a massive 369 lb-ft of torque at just 1,800 rpm.
The diesel also gets a combines mpg rating at 34 compared to the gas E320's 24 mpg combined.
The E320 CDI put out less carbon-dioxide, grams per mile than the gas E320 at 294 compared to 383.
Go pick up the March, 2004 issue of "Car & Driver."
The performancces 0-60 time of the 320 CDI at 6.4s appear a little optimistic to me. The catalogue gives a value of 7.7s and "Auto Motor Sport magazine" speaks about 7.5s (7/2003)
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The figures we are given by Mercedes-Benz for the 320CDI at 62.5m.p.h. per hour is 8.2 sec for the Estate and 7.7 saloon.
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John
Regards,
John
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