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Newbie - 07 E350 4Matic - Very Hard Suspension and Ride???

Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
It's kajtek1. Don't even get him started on Spanish batteries lasting 12 years. He was banned on another forum for things like this.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
It's kajtek1. Don't even get him started on Spanish batteries lasting 12 years. He was banned on another forum for things like this.
Not that I want to defend him generally, but in this case he said springs not struts. You need to read posts more carefully.

Regarding mounts, they may or may not be faulty, but it has nothing to do with stiff ride and OP's question.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mishar
I just wonder how could faulty engine and transmission mounts (most likely not faulty on that well maintained car) make ride harsh. Same thing with struts. Bad struts (generally just bad shock absorbers) would make ride bouncy and noisy, wheels jumping and loosing contact with pavement, most certainly not stiff, if that is this tread about.

I wouldn't be surprised if shock absorbers where replaced with even sportier ones without any written trail in order to avoid warranty issues.

One thing is certain: No German car will ever ride like Cadillac or Lexus. For better or worst.
I would have to tend to agree having owned both a Lexus, as well as a MB for the sake of comparison. The only factor that might help OP somewhat is maybe replacing the brand of tires or going from 18 inch to 17 inch tires and wheels. The latter may give him a much less harsh ride. However, that's still not going to give him the Lexus LS400 ride he's used to. As I said earlier, the two cars were engineered from the bottom up to deliver somewhat different goals to the owner. The LS400 is all about the almost total isolated feel from the road and the dead quiet cabin. I've never driven any other car, whether it be MB, BMW, Audi or Infinity that has the exact same feel. The trade-off of course is on the performance end with a Lexus. As OP notes, his MB feels like a beast in comparison to the Lexus LS400. From my perspective, a MB is a much more fully balanced car delivering good luxury, riding comfort and sports sedan like performance.

OP seems comfortable tackling all the suspension work he wants to try himself. So if nothing else he'll get some good experience on his new car. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mishar
Not that I want to defend him generally, but in this case he said springs not struts. You need to read posts more carefully.

Absorbers last for 300,000+ miles-you know just as well as i do he was referring to shocks. So reading the post carefully or not is irrelevant-he always has some witty response to something someone has said..... like talking about a vehicle that has 300k miles on it-bye felicia
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cmriv

Absorbers last for 300,000+ miles-you know just as well as i do he was referring to shocks. So reading the post carefully or not is irrelevant-he always has some witty response to something someone has said..... like talking about a vehicle that has 300k miles on it-bye felicia
Actually I need to read more carefully. He really said absorbers, but started with springs don't sag. So I hope he meant springs.

By the way, I just sold Audi A8L and I know few guys with 300K miles and original air struts (all four are struts). Schock absorbers are extremely well made. They can do that if they want. OE replacement strut is $1800
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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Who the F even has 300k on their MERK? Let alone on orignal from the factory struts....? That response was terrible insight especially considering there's recalls and LI documents over numerous models about defective struts. ..
My father's W124 is just shy of 300k.
I sold 2 MB last spring both with 266k miles each .
Our W211 wagon will have 160k next week with front factory struts (yes I have records)
You don't know much about the brand and you are making statements about it.
MB is not strange to design hick-ups but this is rare exception not the rule.
W211 is strange animal in the fleet with air suspension and SBC, but in this case we are talking about struts.
What guy messing up airbags can know about them?

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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kajtek1
My father's W124 is just shy of 300k.
I sold 2 MB last spring both with 266k miles each .
Our W211 wagon will have 160k next week with front factory struts (yes I have records)
You don't know much about the brand and you are making statements about it.
MB is not strange to design hick-ups but this is rare exception not the rule.
W211 is strange animal in the fleet with air suspension and SBC, but in this case we are talking about struts.
What guy messing up airbags can know about them?
You should of been swallowed. You Annoying *****.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Does the VMI show that the engine and trans and or transfer case mount were replaced? If they were, since vehicle was serviced at dealership its whole life pretty much, it will say so in the VMI. At 120k i see collapsed engine/trans mounts on weekly basis, hell even at 40k miles they are collapsed or fluids leaked out of the mounts themselves. Vehicle drives like dog shyt. And struts at 300k????? Who the F even has 300k on their MERK? Let alone on orignal from the factory struts....? That response was terrible insight especially considering there's recalls and LI documents over numerous models about defective struts.

You have a M272 engine-i'm willing to bet if they haven't been replaced already, the engine mounts are shot. Especially at 120k miles....

I checked all service records and it appears that the engine/trans/transfer case mounts have not been replaced. Thanks for all of the input from everyone; appreciate learning all that I can about this model. Given that I have never owned an MB, I don't know much about the "M272 engine". All I know is that it is a 3.5L DOHC SFI 24-valve, 6 cylinder. Yet don't know much about performance, durability, etc. Sounds like my first task will be to check all mounts.
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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 05:55 PM
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The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Truth is, no one on this forum likes you. Literally.

And lets not talk about product knowledge hommie, with the outlandish shyt you say-you don't know me or how much i know about this product.
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Old Nov 7, 2016 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tyncobb
I checked all service records and it appears that the engine/trans/transfer case mounts have not been replaced. Thanks for all of the input from everyone; appreciate learning all that I can about this model. Given that I have never owned an MB, I don't know much about the "M272 engine". All I know is that it is a 3.5L DOHC SFI 24-valve, 6 cylinder. Yet don't know much about performance, durability, etc. Sounds like my first task will be to check all mounts.
Any update on this? If you did anything to it please share or comment.
More and more i start to feel that my car need new strut, but my indy shop say there is nothing wrong with the strut.

Thanks,
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