More 320 CDI info
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More 320 CDI info
MBUsa called me back today again.
They said that they could confirm that the 2005 CDI for the USA will have the inline 6 engine and that there was no plan to change it to a V6 for the E class. They also said they have publicly posted this information here.
http://www.mbusa.com/main/container....ecs.jsp&menu=4
It also will have the 5 Speed transmission and not the 7.
The first units are available on dealers lots in mid April and are also available for Euro Delivery at that time if you have already ordered.
Also, the E320 CDI cannot be ordered with a heated steering wheel at all, and also 4 zone climate control is not available. this is to help distinguish the E500 and the possible 2006 - 2007 E400 Diesel. Harmon Kardon sound system is also now only available with the premium package and cannot be ordered by itself.
We wont really know till one hits the shores I guess so take it for what its worth.
They said that they could confirm that the 2005 CDI for the USA will have the inline 6 engine and that there was no plan to change it to a V6 for the E class. They also said they have publicly posted this information here.
http://www.mbusa.com/main/container....ecs.jsp&menu=4
It also will have the 5 Speed transmission and not the 7.
The first units are available on dealers lots in mid April and are also available for Euro Delivery at that time if you have already ordered.
Also, the E320 CDI cannot be ordered with a heated steering wheel at all, and also 4 zone climate control is not available. this is to help distinguish the E500 and the possible 2006 - 2007 E400 Diesel. Harmon Kardon sound system is also now only available with the premium package and cannot be ordered by itself.
We wont really know till one hits the shores I guess so take it for what its worth.
Last edited by Signal; Mar 10, 2004 at 03:32 AM.
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Re: More 320 CDI info
Originally posted by Signal
MBUsa called me back today again.
http://www.mbusa.com/main/container....ecs.jsp&menu=4
It also will have the 5 Speed transmission and not the 7.
Also, the E320 CDI cannot be ordered with a heated steering wheel at all, and also 4 zone climate control is not available. this is to help distinguish the E500 and the possible 2006 - 2007 E400 Diesel.
We wont really know till one hits the shores I guess so take it for what its worth.
MBUsa called me back today again.
http://www.mbusa.com/main/container....ecs.jsp&menu=4
It also will have the 5 Speed transmission and not the 7.
Also, the E320 CDI cannot be ordered with a heated steering wheel at all, and also 4 zone climate control is not available. this is to help distinguish the E500 and the possible 2006 - 2007 E400 Diesel.
We wont really know till one hits the shores I guess so take it for what its worth.
I hope the wait will be worthwhile.
Regards,
John
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They are trying to differentiate the models more I guess..
Im seriously thinking about no longer getting the diesel..
Not only can you not get things like 4 zone, but it appears that you cant get Airmatic Dynamic Suspension anymore either... add to that the lack of a heated wheel, and you seem to be losing alot of options.
A fully optioned E320 and E500 are only $6000 apart, and with the 500 that inlcudes not only the bigger engine, but the heated wheel, 4 zone, and airmatic... The Diesel is supposed to be more $$$ in the US then the gas 320 so that gap will close even more.. Starting to look like its not worth it even though I love the diesel. Im not going to get hosed just to have it....
Im seriously thinking about no longer getting the diesel..
Not only can you not get things like 4 zone, but it appears that you cant get Airmatic Dynamic Suspension anymore either... add to that the lack of a heated wheel, and you seem to be losing alot of options.
A fully optioned E320 and E500 are only $6000 apart, and with the 500 that inlcudes not only the bigger engine, but the heated wheel, 4 zone, and airmatic... The Diesel is supposed to be more $$$ in the US then the gas 320 so that gap will close even more.. Starting to look like its not worth it even though I love the diesel. Im not going to get hosed just to have it....
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Originally posted by Signal
They are trying to differentiate the models more I guess..
Im seriously thinking about no longer getting the diesel..
Not only can you not get things like 4 zone, but it appears that you cant get Airmatic Dynamic Suspension anymore either... add to that the lack of a heated wheel, and you seem to be losing alot of options.
A fully optioned E320 and E500 are only $6000 apart, and with the 500 that inlcudes not only the bigger engine, but the heated wheel, 4 zone, and airmatic... The Diesel is supposed to be more $$$ in the US then the gas 320 so that gap will close even more.. Starting to look like its not worth it even though I love the diesel. Im not going to get hosed just to have it....
They are trying to differentiate the models more I guess..
Im seriously thinking about no longer getting the diesel..
Not only can you not get things like 4 zone, but it appears that you cant get Airmatic Dynamic Suspension anymore either... add to that the lack of a heated wheel, and you seem to be losing alot of options.
A fully optioned E320 and E500 are only $6000 apart, and with the 500 that inlcudes not only the bigger engine, but the heated wheel, 4 zone, and airmatic... The Diesel is supposed to be more $$$ in the US then the gas 320 so that gap will close even more.. Starting to look like its not worth it even though I love the diesel. Im not going to get hosed just to have it....
Over here the price difference between the two vehicles is just under £9000. The difference in specification is Airmatic suspension, 7G gearbox, 8J wheels and full leather. Excluding the cost of the 7G gearbox the price to upgrade the 320CDI to an exact E500 including wider wheels is just £1200.
The exact same spec E320 is £200 dearer than the E320CDI
Are you being screwed??? I would say, Whitworth, metric and BA threads
Good luck with your new E500
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Originally posted by Signal
They are trying to differentiate the models more I guess..
Im seriously thinking about no longer getting the diesel..
Not only can you not get things like 4 zone, but it appears that you cant get Airmatic Dynamic Suspension anymore either... add to that the lack of a heated wheel, and you seem to be losing alot of options.
A fully optioned E320 and E500 are only $6000 apart, and with the 500 that inlcudes not only the bigger engine, but the heated wheel, 4 zone, and airmatic... The Diesel is supposed to be more $$$ in the US then the gas 320 so that gap will close even more.. Starting to look like its not worth it even though I love the diesel. Im not going to get hosed just to have it....
They are trying to differentiate the models more I guess..
Im seriously thinking about no longer getting the diesel..
Not only can you not get things like 4 zone, but it appears that you cant get Airmatic Dynamic Suspension anymore either... add to that the lack of a heated wheel, and you seem to be losing alot of options.
A fully optioned E320 and E500 are only $6000 apart, and with the 500 that inlcudes not only the bigger engine, but the heated wheel, 4 zone, and airmatic... The Diesel is supposed to be more $$$ in the US then the gas 320 so that gap will close even more.. Starting to look like its not worth it even though I love the diesel. Im not going to get hosed just to have it....
Just some thoughts to take into consideration...pre sale information on new MB models is not always (in fact never accurate). Wait for the real thing to arrive and then make your decision.
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Mercedes "won't charge extra" for diesel
Auto News reports: "Mercedes-Benz will not charge a premium for the diesel engine in the E320 sedan, said Mercedes-Benz spokesman Jim Resnick. A diesel engine typically costs about $2,500 more than a gasoline-powered engine. The cost is higher because the diesel has a turbocharger, a high-pressure fuel injection system and a more complex exhaust system." But they used to be $4000 less than the gas models in 1996 to 1999. And in Germany the E320 CDI costs EU 37,450 versus EU 38,250 for the E320.
Auto News reports: "Mercedes-Benz will not charge a premium for the diesel engine in the E320 sedan, said Mercedes-Benz spokesman Jim Resnick. A diesel engine typically costs about $2,500 more than a gasoline-powered engine. The cost is higher because the diesel has a turbocharger, a high-pressure fuel injection system and a more complex exhaust system." But they used to be $4000 less than the gas models in 1996 to 1999. And in Germany the E320 CDI costs EU 37,450 versus EU 38,250 for the E320.
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If they bring the E320 CDI WAGON, I'd get one stripped with just Xenons, moonroof, and heated seats. (My wife doesn't like black, so because of her I guess we'll get metallic paint and the wooden steering wheel)
I don't need any of the other stuff.
On my BMW I also only got Xenons, moonroof, and heated seats.
I don't need any of the other stuff.
On my BMW I also only got Xenons, moonroof, and heated seats.
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Re: Re: More 320 CDI info
Originally posted by glojo
I wonder why they specify that you CANNOT have the 4 Zone climate control. This option is available elsewhere and is far superior to what comes as standard.
I wonder why they specify that you CANNOT have the 4 Zone climate control. This option is available elsewhere and is far superior to what comes as standard.
Besides that it can separately adjust temp setting for rear seats and has a display - what other advantages of 4-zone system?
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4-zone has two addidional air outlets that are located on the B Pillars. Also, there is a charcoal filter which I can't understand why it is not on the basic system. A charcoal filter is even standard on the C320.
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Originally posted by MB-JIM
4-zone has two addidional air outlets that are located on the B Pillars. Also, there is a charcoal filter which I can't understand why it is not on the basic system. A charcoal filter is even standard on the C320.
4-zone has two addidional air outlets that are located on the B Pillars. Also, there is a charcoal filter which I can't understand why it is not on the basic system. A charcoal filter is even standard on the C320.
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Re: Re: Re: More 320 CDI info
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RE: 4-zone Climate Control
Besides that it can separately adjust temp setting for rear seats and has a display - what other advantages of 4-zone system?
RE: 4-zone Climate Control
Besides that it can separately adjust temp setting for rear seats and has a display - what other advantages of 4-zone system?
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Originally posted by Fastbuck
Are you sure John? I made it nearer £6k.
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Are you sure John? I made it nearer £6k.
M
Wife has tidied my bed and the calculations have been 'recycled'. From memory I worked out that the E500 has Luxury Climate Control, Wider wheels, and full leather. I did not include the 7G gearbox because it is not available for the 320CDI.
Because I have an Avantgarde I used the upgrade figure for full leather from that. = £808 8J wheels £404 Whoops
Forgot to add the price of Airmatic suspension £1200 = £2412 Oslo has already realised that my drugged crazed brain is not compatible with adding 2 + 2 I am only talking about the option differences, are there any other standard feature that the E500 has that a standard E320CDI Avantgarde does not have?
Obviously over here petrol is a MAJOR consideration (to those of us who are perhaps financially challenged)
Sorry about that
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Originally posted by glojo
Typical,
Wife has tidied my bed and the calculations have been 'recycled'. From memory I worked out that the E500 has Luxury Climate Control, Wider wheels, and full leather. I did not include the 7G gearbox because it is not available for the 320CDI.
Because I have an Avantgarde I used the upgrade figure for full leather from that. = £808 8J wheels £404 Whoops Forgot to add the price of Airmatic suspension £1200 = £2412 Oslo has already realised that my drugged crazed brain is not compatible with adding 2 + 2
I am only talking about the option differences, are there any other standard feature that the E500 has that a standard E320CDI Avantgarde does not have?
Obviously over here petrol is a MAJOR consideration (to those of us who are perhaps financially challenged)
Sorry about that
John
Typical,
Wife has tidied my bed and the calculations have been 'recycled'. From memory I worked out that the E500 has Luxury Climate Control, Wider wheels, and full leather. I did not include the 7G gearbox because it is not available for the 320CDI.
Because I have an Avantgarde I used the upgrade figure for full leather from that. = £808 8J wheels £404 Whoops
Forgot to add the price of Airmatic suspension £1200 = £2412 Oslo has already realised that my drugged crazed brain is not compatible with adding 2 + 2 I am only talking about the option differences, are there any other standard feature that the E500 has that a standard E320CDI Avantgarde does not have?
Obviously over here petrol is a MAJOR consideration (to those of us who are perhaps financially challenged)
Sorry about that
John
Sorry, i misinterpreted your original post. i thought you were suggesting that to upgrade from a spec'ed up E320 CDI to an E500 was only £1200. You are correct in that the aditional E320 CDI options would come to £2,400 leaving the engine, upgraded brakes & suspension and gearbox to explain away the additional £7k
