Got pulled over
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What don't you get about " It's illegal ". Just because you don't like, it does it make it right. If you follow your logic, then why not make the legal speed limit 110 MPH. I'm sure you feel 55 MPH is too slow. Why not start drinking when you are 12? Why pay taxes? There are things that I don't agree with but as long as it's the law I have to obey them. States are allow to make some of their own laws. If you don't like them, find a state that agrees with you, move there and stop complaining. Then you can go and hang out with your friend that has his 215 card and he can legaly smoke marijauna with you in the car.
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From: Eureka, California
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Originally posted by SteveEvo25
What don't you get about " It's illegal ". Just because you don't like, it does it make it right. If you follow your logic, then why not make the legal speed limit 110 MPH. I'm sure you feel 55 MPH is too slow. Why not start drinking when you are 12? Why pay taxes? There are things that I don't agree with but as long as it's the law I have to obey them. States are allow to make some of their own laws. If you don't like them, find a state that agrees with you, move there and stop complaining. Then you can go and hang out with your friend that has his 215 card and he can legaly smoke marijauna with you in the car.
What don't you get about " It's illegal ". Just because you don't like, it does it make it right. If you follow your logic, then why not make the legal speed limit 110 MPH. I'm sure you feel 55 MPH is too slow. Why not start drinking when you are 12? Why pay taxes? There are things that I don't agree with but as long as it's the law I have to obey them. States are allow to make some of their own laws. If you don't like them, find a state that agrees with you, move there and stop complaining. Then you can go and hang out with your friend that has his 215 card and he can legaly smoke marijauna with you in the car.
I never said I didnt understand it was illegal. My whole point has been that the law is a income generator for the state and anyone saying different is lying. When I go down the highway and 95% of the people are going 5 over the speed limit, why are they not obeying the law? Technically, anything over the limit is speeding. But most cops use common sense and dont ticket them. Just like most cops use common sense and ignore window tinting. Its the do gooder rookie that makes a big issue out of it. If I wanted to live in another state, or country for that matter, I would. I see by your last statement that you have a issue with marijuana. Does it bother you that the war on drugs is a failure and the majority of people have spoken (ie, voters) and they see the same thing?
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I still maintain that the tinting of the front windows is a road safety issue. Perhaps I haven’t put my point across as clearly as I should.At night we turn our headlights on to get better visibility. The road in front is illuminated and beautifully clear. If the front windscreen is tinted anything that appears white will, instead be ‘tinted’ to whatever percentage the front windscreen is.
During daylight, that tint is still there and no doubt in bright sunlight it helps remove dazzling suns rays. Unfortunately in fog, rain, or other very poor visibility the drivers view is diminished by the percentage of tint. This does put at risk other road users who perhaps are not ‘streetwise’ i.e. children, the elderly etc. If these people are wearing dark clothing, in poor visibility, they are much harder to pick out.
Regarding statistics to corroborate my statement. Yes they are available and were used to introduce the ‘Tint Regulations’ in the UK. Incidentally here's a piece of useless information for Hel ona Harley. Tinted visors on crash helmets are also illegal in the UK for exactly the same reason, and they certainly cannot hide a gun inside their helmets.
Unfortunately I still disagree with Steve’s point about ‘suspects’ being unseen and able to shoot him if the front windows were tinted. The rear windows can be heavily tinted thus completely obscuring any view into the cars interior and if a suspect wants to ‘pull out’ his gun, then he can do it in complete safety as the officer approaches. When the officer gets to see the suspect through the front window it would be to late. Having said that, he should not receive criticism that appears to be getting ‘over the top’
I am interested in the point about a car not being a public place. Surely Hugh Grant could of used that defence when he was caught with ‘his pants down’ a few years ago. (was that in Los Angeles?)
Regards to you all,
John
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Try a traffic Ticket lawyer. I dont know if they have those in Illinois. If u can pay the fine, pay it and forget it. If they want photo proof, you can photoshop the windows to make it look not tinted and use two-sided tape to attach the front plate. Or if u really want to get creative and you have a good MB dealer you can turn ur car in for service and have him do a BORROWED VEHICLE AGREEMENT and "test-drive" your exact car. The windows wont be tinted obviously and you can just remove your plates and put them on the loaner. Easy as pie. Just a big ol' hassle
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Originally posted by glojo
I still maintain that the tinting of the front windows is a road safety issue. Perhaps I haven’t put my point across as clearly as I should.
At night we turn our headlights on to get better visibility. The road in front is illuminated and beautifully clear. If the front windscreen is tinted anything that appears white will, instead be ‘tinted’ to whatever percentage the front windscreen is.
During daylight, that tint is still there and no doubt in bright sunlight it helps remove dazzling suns rays. Unfortunately in fog, rain, or other very poor visibility the drivers view is diminished by the percentage of tint. This does put at risk other road users who perhaps are not ‘streetwise’ i.e. children, the elderly etc. If these people are wearing dark clothing, in poor visibility, they are much harder to pick out.
I am interested in the point about a car not being a public place. Surely Hugh Grant could of used that defence when he was caught with ‘his pants down’ a few years ago. (was that in Los Angeles?)
Regards to you all,
John
I still maintain that the tinting of the front windows is a road safety issue. Perhaps I haven’t put my point across as clearly as I should.At night we turn our headlights on to get better visibility. The road in front is illuminated and beautifully clear. If the front windscreen is tinted anything that appears white will, instead be ‘tinted’ to whatever percentage the front windscreen is.
During daylight, that tint is still there and no doubt in bright sunlight it helps remove dazzling suns rays. Unfortunately in fog, rain, or other very poor visibility the drivers view is diminished by the percentage of tint. This does put at risk other road users who perhaps are not ‘streetwise’ i.e. children, the elderly etc. If these people are wearing dark clothing, in poor visibility, they are much harder to pick out.
I am interested in the point about a car not being a public place. Surely Hugh Grant could of used that defence when he was caught with ‘his pants down’ a few years ago. (was that in Los Angeles?)
Regards to you all,
John
I agree with your statement regarding glare from the windshield. But what Im referring to is the side windows, not the windshield. And the Hugh Grant thing was a sting wasnt it? The reason I mentioned the car being a private place is that I was listening to someone that was a passenger in a car and was very intoxicated. The office told him to step out of the car and then arrested him on a "drunk in public" charge. Supposedly his lawyer told him he shouldnt have gotten out of the car, as its a "private" domain. Not sure about the validity of this story, as it was a second hand story, and you know how those go.
There has to be someone on here that practices law in california that can shed some info on it.
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Originally posted by gbrandon
The office told him to step out of the car and then arrested him on a "drunk in public" charge. Supposedly his lawyer told him he shouldnt have gotten out of the car,
The office told him to step out of the car and then arrested him on a "drunk in public" charge. Supposedly his lawyer told him he shouldnt have gotten out of the car,
Whilst the person was sat in the car he could not form an accurate assessment of the condition.
I obviously cannot comment on your specific laws about if the passenger had politely declined to get out of the car because they was 'disabled\ill or making a telephone call???
The Hugh Grant thing certainly appeared to be set-up because I am led to believe the press were in attendance??
Nice speaking to you,
Regards,
John
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Originally posted by HELL ONA HARLEY
Gee isn't there any "real" criminals there in chi town....This cop only dreams of owning such a clean looking ride like yours... He probably wanted to take it out on you bro... Its obviously the citations were pretty chicken **** to begin with....
Gee isn't there any "real" criminals there in chi town....This cop only dreams of owning such a clean looking ride like yours... He probably wanted to take it out on you bro... Its obviously the citations were pretty chicken **** to begin with....
You're making an assumption that in not only unfair, but may easily be untrue, FYI.
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Originally posted by BrabusClK04
Well sorry to hear about that. I dont know about your states, but here in California, if you have all your window tinted including the front windsheild, the cops can impound your car at the spot. Boy that would suck...
Well sorry to hear about that. I dont know about your states, but here in California, if you have all your window tinted including the front windsheild, the cops can impound your car at the spot. Boy that would suck...
FWIW,
EDJ
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Originally posted by SteveEvo25
Lionhead thanks for the front gill shot. It looks great . After reading all these replies I know that my reply probably won't be that popular but here it goes. I am a police officer in NY. I try not to be a hypocrite. I speed, therefore I don't stop anyone unless they are doing at least 20 MPH over the speed limit. I figure 20 MPH over and you should know that you were speeding and if you don't that's even worse. Even after that, if the person does not give me attitude ( very important !!! ) I may give a warning or look for something minor to give them a ticket for ( ie no seatbelt, brake light out, headlight out, etc. ). The reason for this is that in NY those minor offenses are equiptment violations and only carry a fine and "no points" on your driver's license.
I don't stop people for tint on their windows unless you are foolish enough to tint your front windshield . If you tint your front windshield you will get a ticket for sure unless is confined to the top 6" of the windshield. I will tell you why I feel some officers do. It is a safety reason for the police officer. Tinting ranges from very mild to some that we all have seen were you can not see inside the car. Put yourself in my place. I stop a car and as I'm getting ready to exit my vehicle I have no idea who the person is in the car. Almost always is a law abiding citizen, but there is a very small possibility that this person is wanted for a serious crime somewhere and has decided that no matter what he is not going back to jail. If that is the situation then I'm the only thing standing between him and freedom. If he has a weapon he may feel that using it is his best option. With that scenario, someone is going to loose and I would hope that due to our training it would be me. Now compound that concern with "dark" tinted windows. As I'm approaching the vehicle I can't see inside the vehicle and can be walking into an ambush. That's why we"light up" the vehicle with all our auxiliary lights hoping to be able to approach the vehicle undetected for a tactical advantage. Any way you get the point.
My suggestion to anyone who has tinted windows and gets pulled over is to pull over quickly as far to the right on the shoulder as possible. Immediately lower "all" your windows so that the officer feels a bit more secure because he can now see inside the car. When he asks you for your paperwork, be polite and apologetic. It may get you out of a ticket. I can almost guarantee you that you will not get by with a warning by having an attitude or being defiant.
Lastly understand that having your front plate in states that require it help us do our job by being able to identify your vehicle from the front or rear. If we are in the lookout for a vehicle in connection with a crime I can pull over and monitor traffic heading towards me by looking at the front plate. Also I have come across several individual that have taken the front plate off their legally registerd vehicle and put it on the rear of a vehicle that is not registered and drive around knowing that unless they get stop they will be ok. Lionhead I think that we can agree that the car is beautiful !!! It will still be beautiful even with a license plate on, but if you feel that strongly about it and don't mind taken chances find out if the tint and the missing front plate are only violations that do not accrue points on your license. In that case you would only be responsible for any monetary fines everytime you get stopped. By the way I own a 2002 S500 sport, 1993 STS and my girlfriend has a 2000 S500 and a 2000 Galant. I know that they would look better without a front plate but they all have front plates. Sorry for the long post but I thought it was a side not being shared and if I am banned I will accept my exile willingly.
Lionhead thanks for the front gill shot. It looks great . After reading all these replies I know that my reply probably won't be that popular but here it goes. I am a police officer in NY. I try not to be a hypocrite. I speed, therefore I don't stop anyone unless they are doing at least 20 MPH over the speed limit. I figure 20 MPH over and you should know that you were speeding and if you don't that's even worse. Even after that, if the person does not give me attitude ( very important !!! ) I may give a warning or look for something minor to give them a ticket for ( ie no seatbelt, brake light out, headlight out, etc. ). The reason for this is that in NY those minor offenses are equiptment violations and only carry a fine and "no points" on your driver's license.
I don't stop people for tint on their windows unless you are foolish enough to tint your front windshield . If you tint your front windshield you will get a ticket for sure unless is confined to the top 6" of the windshield. I will tell you why I feel some officers do. It is a safety reason for the police officer. Tinting ranges from very mild to some that we all have seen were you can not see inside the car. Put yourself in my place. I stop a car and as I'm getting ready to exit my vehicle I have no idea who the person is in the car. Almost always is a law abiding citizen, but there is a very small possibility that this person is wanted for a serious crime somewhere and has decided that no matter what he is not going back to jail. If that is the situation then I'm the only thing standing between him and freedom. If he has a weapon he may feel that using it is his best option. With that scenario, someone is going to loose and I would hope that due to our training it would be me. Now compound that concern with "dark" tinted windows. As I'm approaching the vehicle I can't see inside the vehicle and can be walking into an ambush. That's why we"light up" the vehicle with all our auxiliary lights hoping to be able to approach the vehicle undetected for a tactical advantage. Any way you get the point.
My suggestion to anyone who has tinted windows and gets pulled over is to pull over quickly as far to the right on the shoulder as possible. Immediately lower "all" your windows so that the officer feels a bit more secure because he can now see inside the car. When he asks you for your paperwork, be polite and apologetic. It may get you out of a ticket. I can almost guarantee you that you will not get by with a warning by having an attitude or being defiant.
Lastly understand that having your front plate in states that require it help us do our job by being able to identify your vehicle from the front or rear. If we are in the lookout for a vehicle in connection with a crime I can pull over and monitor traffic heading towards me by looking at the front plate. Also I have come across several individual that have taken the front plate off their legally registerd vehicle and put it on the rear of a vehicle that is not registered and drive around knowing that unless they get stop they will be ok. Lionhead I think that we can agree that the car is beautiful !!! It will still be beautiful even with a license plate on, but if you feel that strongly about it and don't mind taken chances find out if the tint and the missing front plate are only violations that do not accrue points on your license. In that case you would only be responsible for any monetary fines everytime you get stopped. By the way I own a 2002 S500 sport, 1993 STS and my girlfriend has a 2000 S500 and a 2000 Galant. I know that they would look better without a front plate but they all have front plates. Sorry for the long post but I thought it was a side not being shared and if I am banned I will accept my exile willingly.
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I have a blown 2008 E63 that is putting easy 600 to the wheels. I have been pulled over 7 times in the past 1.5 years. All 7 times they have released me with a warning and "small-talk".
1) They all wanted to see the car up close.
2) They all wanted to know how much it's pushing.
3) They all wanted to know what model it is because it's not everyday you see W211 E63's on the road.
4) They all insisted that I slow down.
1) They all wanted to see the car up close.
2) They all wanted to know how much it's pushing.
3) They all wanted to know what model it is because it's not everyday you see W211 E63's on the road.
4) They all insisted that I slow down.
