WHEEL / WHEEL SPACER Question
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WHEEL / WHEEL SPACER Question
I am currently running 18" inch AMG wheels, with 225/40R18 FRONT and 255/35R18 REAR tires. The wheels came off an S-Class.
In order for the wheels to fit properly and look ok on my W211, I had to install 10mm Spacers (Hub Centric) on each wheel. It appears to me that the car "shimmies" somewhat when going in a turn, mostly noticeable at Highway Speeds and when the pavement becomes somewhat uneven, feels like the rear end is moving and it does not feel safe.
Prior to installation, I have been assured that spacers should not affect the performance/ride of the car, but am wondering if I was misinformed and what your guys' opinion out there is? Now, ........ I do like the look of this AMG monoblock wheel on my car, (See pic. 1), but as already explained, it appears that the car is acting a bit weird, .......................... I don't know.
In pic 2 (which I found on the web, NOT my car), you can see the wheel style of a set which I found on craigslist used, came off a 2009 E350. Tires 245/40R18 FRONT and 265/35R18 REAR .
TWO QUESTION:
1.) Will these wheels with wider tires fit my 2003 E320 with NO Sports Package?
2.) What are your thoughts in regards to the look of these wheels? I do not care for custom wheels and would like to stay OEM, 18" inches is a big as I would like to go.
Your input is greatly appreciated, THANK YOU in advance.
In order for the wheels to fit properly and look ok on my W211, I had to install 10mm Spacers (Hub Centric) on each wheel. It appears to me that the car "shimmies" somewhat when going in a turn, mostly noticeable at Highway Speeds and when the pavement becomes somewhat uneven, feels like the rear end is moving and it does not feel safe.
Prior to installation, I have been assured that spacers should not affect the performance/ride of the car, but am wondering if I was misinformed and what your guys' opinion out there is? Now, ........ I do like the look of this AMG monoblock wheel on my car, (See pic. 1), but as already explained, it appears that the car is acting a bit weird, .......................... I don't know.
In pic 2 (which I found on the web, NOT my car), you can see the wheel style of a set which I found on craigslist used, came off a 2009 E350. Tires 245/40R18 FRONT and 265/35R18 REAR .
TWO QUESTION:
1.) Will these wheels with wider tires fit my 2003 E320 with NO Sports Package?
2.) What are your thoughts in regards to the look of these wheels? I do not care for custom wheels and would like to stay OEM, 18" inches is a big as I would like to go.
Your input is greatly appreciated, THANK YOU in advance.
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Do you have picture of the spacers? From what I have seen hubcentric 10 mm spacers don't exist.
Too thick to catch original hub lips and too thin to make double adapter.
So if your install your wheels without center guidance - you can expect all kind of problems.
Too thick to catch original hub lips and too thin to make double adapter.
So if your install your wheels without center guidance - you can expect all kind of problems.
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Just a quick search on eBay confirms that 10mm hubcentric spacers are available for our cars, my spacers look just like it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ichiba-Vers...rNZOX0d&vxp=mt
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-10mm-2-15...1UGhzc&vxp=mtr
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Which one?
The first link shows generic picture, while 2nd shows the 10 mm spacer with no centering lip.
Regardless what salesman told you, spacers do affect performance and safety. I would double check everything as it doesn't take much with spacers to get messy setup.
Hope you did not put too long bolts that are grinding parking brake?
The first link shows generic picture, while 2nd shows the 10 mm spacer with no centering lip.
Regardless what salesman told you, spacers do affect performance and safety. I would double check everything as it doesn't take much with spacers to get messy setup.
Hope you did not put too long bolts that are grinding parking brake?
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Thanks kajtek1
So, back to my original question. If I understand you correctly, you would as well advise me to remove the spacers and go back to a wheel which will fit my car.
What are your thoughts about this 2009 E350 style wheel, as well as tire sizes for my vehicle?
So, back to my original question. If I understand you correctly, you would as well advise me to remove the spacers and go back to a wheel which will fit my car.
What are your thoughts about this 2009 E350 style wheel, as well as tire sizes for my vehicle?
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I think I know what you are dealing with on the S-Class wheels. I recently picked up a set of AMG Style IV's in S-class fitment to put on my W211 E-Class. I was disappointed when they didn't fit. After a bit of digging, I figured out that Style IV's came in a bunch of different sizes/offsets. If the monoblocks you have are anything like the Style IV's I got, I am surprised you didn't need longer wheel bolts to mount the wheels.
With regards to the 18" E350 wheels. They will fit no problem. I actually ended up moving my E55 fitment Style IV's to the front with a 265/40/18 tire and bought a pair of CLS fitment Style IV's for the rear and mounted a 285/35/18 tire. This is all on a 2005 E320 CDI. Zero rubbing anywhere but SUPER CLOSE, car also tracks straight as an arrow and handles turns much better now with the slightly wider track.
So final specs are:
Front: 18x9.0 et39 265/40/18
Rear: 18x9.5 et28 285/35/18
With regards to the 18" E350 wheels. They will fit no problem. I actually ended up moving my E55 fitment Style IV's to the front with a 265/40/18 tire and bought a pair of CLS fitment Style IV's for the rear and mounted a 285/35/18 tire. This is all on a 2005 E320 CDI. Zero rubbing anywhere but SUPER CLOSE, car also tracks straight as an arrow and handles turns much better now with the slightly wider track.
So final specs are:
Front: 18x9.0 et39 265/40/18
Rear: 18x9.5 et28 285/35/18
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Thanks kajtek1
So, back to my original question. If I understand you correctly, you would as well advise me to remove the spacers and go back to a wheel which will fit my car.
What are your thoughts about this 2009 E350 style wheel, as well as tire sizes for my vehicle?
So, back to my original question. If I understand you correctly, you would as well advise me to remove the spacers and go back to a wheel which will fit my car.
What are your thoughts about this 2009 E350 style wheel, as well as tire sizes for my vehicle?
Why run into hassle and risk of spacers?
I am big fan of classic monoblocks and those you have don't fit my taste.
But when I got mine 2008 E320BT, the 5-spoke wheels grew up on me. I am practical man and the 10-spokes I had on older MB drove me crazy with cleaning.
Years ago I bought a set of very classic monoblocks by Lorinser. Have 6 of them total and 2 on my SL, where AMG monoblocks do have some damages.. I even added the extended bolts from W210 on my R129 to fill blind bolt holes.
The only things that keep me from putting them on newer cars I have are TPMs, but once tire wear out and I will have to buy new ones, the monoblocks are first on the list.
They are over 20 years old, but design is timeless.I only hope I can fit TPMs on them.
Here they are on previous car
Obviously this is personal taste, but when you find the style last for over 20 years and is still hot, you can't loose.
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I think I know what you are dealing with on the S-Class wheels. I recently picked up a set of AMG Style IV's in S-class fitment to put on my W211 E-Class. I was disappointed when they didn't fit. After a bit of digging, I figured out that Style IV's came in a bunch of different sizes/offsets. If the monoblocks you have are anything like the Style IV's I got, I am surprised you didn't need longer wheel bolts to mount the wheels.
With regards to the 18" E350 wheels. They will fit no problem. I actually ended up moving my E55 fitment Style IV's to the front with a 265/40/18 tire and bought a pair of CLS fitment Style IV's for the rear and mounted a 285/35/18 tire. This is all on a 2005 E320 CDI. Zero rubbing anywhere but SUPER CLOSE, car also tracks straight as an arrow and handles turns much better now with the slightly wider track.
So final specs are:
Front: 18x9.0 et39 265/40/18
Rear: 18x9.5 et28 285/35/18
With regards to the 18" E350 wheels. They will fit no problem. I actually ended up moving my E55 fitment Style IV's to the front with a 265/40/18 tire and bought a pair of CLS fitment Style IV's for the rear and mounted a 285/35/18 tire. This is all on a 2005 E320 CDI. Zero rubbing anywhere but SUPER CLOSE, car also tracks straight as an arrow and handles turns much better now with the slightly wider track.
So final specs are:
Front: 18x9.0 et39 265/40/18
Rear: 18x9.5 et28 285/35/18
So the wider tires with the correct off set should be no problem then.
Do you know the correct off set for the W211???
I do not have the original lug bolts and wheel studs were installed, so I would imagine they are longer than stock.
Can you share some oictures of your set up on your car?
Thanks in advance.
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You will find good number of wheels that fit E class as SL, SLK, C-class are directly comparable.
Why run into hassle and risk of spacers?
I am big fan of classic monoblocks and those you have don't fit my taste.
But when I got mine 2008 E320BT, the 5-spoke wheels grew up on me. I am practical man and the 10-spokes I had on older MB drove me crazy with cleaning.
Years ago I bought a set of very classic monoblocks by Lorinser. Have 6 of them total and 2 on my SL, where AMG monoblocks do have some damages.. I even added the extended bolts from W210 on my R129 to fill blind bolt holes.
The only things that keep me from putting them on newer cars I have are TPMs, but once tire wear out and I will have to buy new ones, the monoblocks are first on the list.
They are over 20 years old, but design is timeless.I only hope I can fit TPMs on them.
Here they are on previous car
Obviously this is personal taste, but when you find the style last for over 20 years and is still hot, you can't loose.
Why run into hassle and risk of spacers?
I am big fan of classic monoblocks and those you have don't fit my taste.
But when I got mine 2008 E320BT, the 5-spoke wheels grew up on me. I am practical man and the 10-spokes I had on older MB drove me crazy with cleaning.
Years ago I bought a set of very classic monoblocks by Lorinser. Have 6 of them total and 2 on my SL, where AMG monoblocks do have some damages.. I even added the extended bolts from W210 on my R129 to fill blind bolt holes.
The only things that keep me from putting them on newer cars I have are TPMs, but once tire wear out and I will have to buy new ones, the monoblocks are first on the list.
They are over 20 years old, but design is timeless.I only hope I can fit TPMs on them.
Here they are on previous car
Obviously this is personal taste, but when you find the style last for over 20 years and is still hot, you can't loose.
I as well am a fan of monoblocks, but which to get to fit without issues?
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Will these fit on the W211?
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...459770519.html
Come off a 2015 W212.
front 8.5x18, 245/40 18, ET 48
rear 9 x18, 265/35 18, ET 54
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...459770519.html
Come off a 2015 W212.
front 8.5x18, 245/40 18, ET 48
rear 9 x18, 265/35 18, ET 54
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The add is not giving the right info so either he is an idiot or scammer. Ask for picture of wheel sizing stamped inside and penny stick into tire grove.
"Brand new condition" with what I would estimate 30% thread left.
Long drive from Sacramento to check it.
"Brand new condition" with what I would estimate 30% thread left.
Long drive from Sacramento to check it.
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Fresh of the press from Stuttgart/Sindelfingen, just sent by my Brother.
Attached PDF will give answers to all W211 wheel/tire combinations, off sets and part numbers. It is all in German, but I am sure you will get the idea.
Attached PDF will give answers to all W211 wheel/tire combinations, off sets and part numbers. It is all in German, but I am sure you will get the idea.
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front 8.5x18, 245/40 18, ET 48
rear 9 x18, 265/35 18, ET 54
Based on the PDF file I just posted below, these off sets will not work for the W211.
The seller is willing to ship to Sacramento, so no long drive.
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Again, thanks very much, you are helping me so much in finding a resolution to my problem.
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No offense, but you already made one big mistake and you seriously consider doing another.
Maybe at some point taking the car to wheels professionals will be better?
It will cost more than the non-fitting wheels from CL, but you'll be smiling for years to come.
Also forum sponsors offer good discounts on custom wheels, that are guaranteed to fit.
Maybe at some point taking the car to wheels professionals will be better?
It will cost more than the non-fitting wheels from CL, but you'll be smiling for years to come.
Also forum sponsors offer good discounts on custom wheels, that are guaranteed to fit.
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Thanks very much.
So the wider tires with the correct off set should be no problem then.
Do you know the correct off set for the W211???
I do not have the original lug bolts and wheel studs were installed, so I would imagine they are longer than stock.
Can you share some oictures of your set up on your car?
Thanks in advance.
So the wider tires with the correct off set should be no problem then.
Do you know the correct off set for the W211???
I do not have the original lug bolts and wheel studs were installed, so I would imagine they are longer than stock.
Can you share some oictures of your set up on your car?
Thanks in advance.
There isn't a "one offset fits all" for the W211 since wheels come in various widths. You can use E55 Style IV dimensions as a baseline, keep in mind that they tuck a fair amount so you have about 15-20mm in either direction to go wider.
E55 AMG Style IV wheel dimensions:
Front - 18x8 et30
Rear - 18x9 et39
I suggest you get acquainted with an online offset calculator. Like this one:
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
I do not have any pictures but I basically followed this setup:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ml#post6521889
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The tire sizes you mentioned earlier with the correct offsets should work just fine.
There isn't a "one offset fits all" for the W211 since wheels come in various widths. You can use E55 Style IV dimensions as a baseline, keep in mind that they tuck a fair amount so you have about 15-20mm in either direction to go wider.
E55 AMG Style IV wheel dimensions:
Front - 18x8 et30
Rear - 18x9 et39
I suggest you get acquainted with an online offset calculator. Like this one:
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
I do not have any pictures but I basically followed this setup:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ml#post6521889
There isn't a "one offset fits all" for the W211 since wheels come in various widths. You can use E55 Style IV dimensions as a baseline, keep in mind that they tuck a fair amount so you have about 15-20mm in either direction to go wider.
E55 AMG Style IV wheel dimensions:
Front - 18x8 et30
Rear - 18x9 et39
I suggest you get acquainted with an online offset calculator. Like this one:
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
I do not have any pictures but I basically followed this setup:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ml#post6521889
To get factory E55 Style IV wheels to "fit" like the SL Wheels in the link...
Based on the calculator I would need a 6mm spacer in the front and a 12 in the rear?