SBC Question
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SBC Question
Does anybody know if MB is going to go back to conventional (mechanical) braking system for W211 in the near future? I heard electro-hydraulic technology (similar technology used in SBC) is a failure. Check this article from germancarfans:
http://germancarfans.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=9174
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http://germancarfans.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=9174
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From: Torquay, England
E-class E300e Estate, Sprinter (stretched limo)
'Oslo' has reported that the European SBC might be withdrawn.
If indeed this is the case then I personally believe it is a backward step.
I cannot recall reading a single European complaint on this excellent system. There have been a number of US members complaining, but in fairness there has been an abundance of US members complementing it.
I have also read countless links to this 'recall'. On the Australian Mercedes-Benz site, it actually mentions the problem. BUT, has anyone with a 211 actually received a written recall letter????
I for one think the 211 is a brilliant motor vehicle with an excellent braking system and am very glad that it is an 04 model with none of the alledged cut backs.
I feel sorry for our US friends who are missing out on far to many 'options' all of which we take as being standard fittings.
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a suffering John
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If indeed this is the case then I personally believe it is a backward step.
I cannot recall reading a single European complaint on this excellent system. There have been a number of US members complaining, but in fairness there has been an abundance of US members complementing it.
I have also read countless links to this 'recall'. On the Australian Mercedes-Benz site, it actually mentions the problem. BUT, has anyone with a 211 actually received a written recall letter????
I for one think the 211 is a brilliant motor vehicle with an excellent braking system and am very glad that it is an 04 model with none of the alledged cut backs.
I feel sorry for our US friends who are missing out on far to many 'options' all of which we take as being standard fittings.
Regards
a suffering John
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'05 E320 CDI;'04 S2k;'94 Supra TT;'10 QX56;'38 Buick;98 Port City Offset Late Model
Reporting in the Journal said the same thing. The question is whether it will be dropped with the mid-life revision in 2006 or a full revision in 2009.
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to be replaced by what? the same braking technology that has been around for decades? people buy these cars for technology, the more decontenting of technology that goes on - how does the car differentiate itself?
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was '03 E320 - now - '04 S4
If I had the choice - I'd rather have a normal braking system and some $$$ back.
I think SBC shines on panic and high speed braking. I hate the feel around town. I have an '03. Some '04 owners have reported improved brake feel.
Porsches and Ferraris seem to stop just fine with conventional technologies (but with cool materials like ceramics
)
I think SBC shines on panic and high speed braking. I hate the feel around town. I have an '03. Some '04 owners have reported improved brake feel.
Porsches and Ferraris seem to stop just fine with conventional technologies (but with cool materials like ceramics
)
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From: Warren, NJ
'05 E320 CDI;'04 S2k;'94 Supra TT;'10 QX56;'38 Buick;98 Port City Offset Late Model
I hated the brakes on an E320 we tested in January. Then I found no problem with 2 different CDIs we road tested. Also thought the handling was better (maybe do to changes to accomodate the 200# heavier engine).
SBC would be replaced by a conventional hydralic ABS system, possibly with an electronic assist. A fairly easy retrofit, I image it will come out with the 2006 mid-life kicker.
SBC would be replaced by a conventional hydralic ABS system, possibly with an electronic assist. A fairly easy retrofit, I image it will come out with the 2006 mid-life kicker.
