Mercedes quality continues to slide
07-02-2004, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nyca
that kind of stuff doesn't bother me (depending on what the problem is) - there are always initial defects, I can't think of a single car I ever owned that wasn't back at the dealer twice after delivery to fix initial quality problems. that includes Honda.
its what happens after the assembly related problems are fixed that concern me more. Either additional new problems keep cropping up, or service departments that can't actually fix a problem (whether due to their own incompetence, or lack of a proper fix from the manufacturer) - resulting in repetitive visits.
its what happens after the assembly related problems are fixed that concern me more. Either additional new problems keep cropping up, or service departments that can't actually fix a problem (whether due to their own incompetence, or lack of a proper fix from the manufacturer) - resulting in repetitive visits.
07-02-2004, 08:15 PM
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truly, that is not the norm that I see. almost everyone I know has an initial quality issue. with my last Honda, the emergency brake seized a rear wheel. I would have had to have the car towed had I not jacked it myself and released the cable. 2 service visits to get it fixed. i've seen it with Toyota, VW, etc. a squeak, a rattle, bad wheel alignment, etc. its always something something small, but something.
you've been very lucky.
you've been very lucky.
07-02-2004, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nyca
actually got worse as compared to the last report:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...tos_quality_dc
"But Chrysler and its Dodge, Jeep and now-defunct Plymouth brands all out-ranked Mercedes, which had 327 problems per 100 vehicles, up from 318 problems in last year's survey."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...tos_quality_dc
"But Chrysler and its Dodge, Jeep and now-defunct Plymouth brands all out-ranked Mercedes, which had 327 problems per 100 vehicles, up from 318 problems in last year's survey."
07-02-2004, 09:41 PM
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2004 E320, 2004 Lexus GX470
Luxury1. What was (were) your initial problems? I'm picking up my new E320 tomorrow! I worked yrs for this car so I don't want to be unecessarily disappointed/shocked over something that is normal. Thanks.
07-02-2004, 10:21 PM
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If they switch to solid state devices that can be upgraded and are open source (yeah right) I will honestly rejoice.
That means they've given us the ability to react with the car and allow the community to update stuff!
That means they've given us the ability to react with the car and allow the community to update stuff!
07-02-2004, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by topspin4hand
I worked yrs for this car so I don't want to be unecessarily disappointed/shocked
07-02-2004, 10:33 PM
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If they switch to solid state devices that can be upgraded and are open source (yeah right) I will honestly rejoice.
That means they've given us the ability to react with the car and allow the community to update stuff!
That means they've given us the ability to react with the car and allow the community to update stuff!
You can start by changing the oil and see how that goes.
07-02-2004, 10:37 PM
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Changing the oil does not allow more functionality to the car.
Being able to program say.. the ability to play .ogg or .wma in your car does.
New maps and new streets being updated whenever you want does.
Having more colors and such for your COMAND unit kinda does.
Being able to program say.. the ability to play .ogg or .wma in your car does.
New maps and new streets being updated whenever you want does.
Having more colors and such for your COMAND unit kinda does.
07-02-2004, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vraa
Changing the oil does not allow more functionality to the car.
Being able to program say.. the ability to play .ogg or .wma in your car does.
New maps and new streets being updated whenever you want does.
Having more colors and such for your COMAND unit kinda does.
Being able to program say.. the ability to play .ogg or .wma in your car does.
New maps and new streets being updated whenever you want does.
Having more colors and such for your COMAND unit kinda does.
07-03-2004, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by vraa
Mercedes chooses who and what supplier they pick.
If Becker, Bosch and Alpine had large forums I'd sure as hell complain there too
If Becker, Bosch and Alpine had large forums I'd sure as hell complain there too
07-03-2004, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by topspin4hand
Luxury1. What was (were) your initial problems? I'm picking up my new E320 tomorrow! I worked yrs for this car so I don't want to be unecessarily disappointed/shocked over something that is normal. Thanks.
07-03-2004, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by nyca
truly, that is not the norm that I see. almost everyone I know has an initial quality issue. with my last Honda, the emergency brake seized a rear wheel. I would have had to have the car towed had I not jacked it myself and released the cable. 2 service visits to get it fixed. i've seen it with Toyota, VW, etc. a squeak, a rattle, bad wheel alignment, etc. its always something something small, but something.
you've been very lucky.
you've been very lucky.
