New ownerTransmission issues
#1
New ownerTransmission issues
I have just bought a 2007 e550 5.5 4matic with 210000km. Wonderful car. Lots of power and smooth ride.
Tonight wasnt so fun tho as I backed out of my aunt's driveway and it was slipping quite badly in reverse. Once I went forwards again and back and all seemed well all the way home. Outside temp is -4.
Low fluid? If so how do I go about checking fluid and adding fluid and theres no dipstick.
or perhaps something completely different.
I have had quite a few bad experiences with automatic transmissions so this makes me somewhat nervous, heading on a trip in a week as well.
Any input would be great.
Tonight wasnt so fun tho as I backed out of my aunt's driveway and it was slipping quite badly in reverse. Once I went forwards again and back and all seemed well all the way home. Outside temp is -4.
Low fluid? If so how do I go about checking fluid and adding fluid and theres no dipstick.
or perhaps something completely different.
I have had quite a few bad experiences with automatic transmissions so this makes me somewhat nervous, heading on a trip in a week as well.
Any input would be great.
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#4
Do you have a 5 speed or 7 speed transmission? Please post your VIN, this is necessary information.
Per WIS the 2007 E550 with a 7 speed 722.9 transmission uses Mercedes spec 236.14 up to 6/18/10 without code A89, color is red. After 6/18/10 with code A89, use Mercedes specification 236.15, color is blue.
6 liters are called for, the procedure includes overfilling the standpipe, so something less than 6 liters is the precise fill volume.
Per WIS the 2007 E550 with a 7 speed 722.9 transmission uses Mercedes spec 236.14 up to 6/18/10 without code A89, color is red. After 6/18/10 with code A89, use Mercedes specification 236.15, color is blue.
6 liters are called for, the procedure includes overfilling the standpipe, so something less than 6 liters is the precise fill volume.
#5
Do you have a 5 speed or 7 speed transmission? Please post your VIN, this is necessary information.
Per WIS the 2007 E550 with a 7 speed 722.9 transmission uses Mercedes spec 236.14 up to 6/18/10 without code A89, color is red. After 6/18/10 with code A89, use Mercedes specification 236.15, color is blue.
6 liters are called for, the procedure includes overfilling the standpipe, so something less than 6 liters is the precise fill volume.
Per WIS the 2007 E550 with a 7 speed 722.9 transmission uses Mercedes spec 236.14 up to 6/18/10 without code A89, color is red. After 6/18/10 with code A89, use Mercedes specification 236.15, color is blue.
6 liters are called for, the procedure includes overfilling the standpipe, so something less than 6 liters is the precise fill volume.
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#7
Quite right, 722.6 5G-Tronic.
Mercedes specification 236.14, color is red. Here is one retailer:
Your VIN decode:
FIN WDB2110901B166494
VIN WDBUF90X37B166494
Model Year 2007
Model E 550 4MATIC
Engine 273962 30 149032
Transmission 722677 06 909173
Order Number 0 7 701 26690
Order Location CANADA
Interior AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BLACK/ANTH. (821A)
Paint 1 TANZANITE BLUE METALLIC FINISH (359U)
Release Date 2007-04-24
Delivery Date 2007-04-24
Code Description
212B OP. INSTRUCT. AND MAINT. BOOKLET-ENGL. FOR USA/CAN
213 SPEED-SENSITIVE POWER STEERING/VARIO STEERING
221B SIGN COOLANT/REFUELING - ENGLISH
232 GARAGE DOOR OPENER WITH 284 - 390 MHZ FREQUENCY
242 FRONT SEAT RH ELECTRIC ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY
249 INSIDE AND OUTSIDE MIRROR AUTOMATIC DIMMING
264 LICENSE PLATE ATTACHMENT AMERICA
265 LINES-NO.PLATE DISCONTINUED
267 TYPE-DESIGNATION DEVIATING
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
285B AIRBAG LABEL - ENGLISH / FRENCH FOR CANADA
289 WOOD/LEATHER STEERING-WHEEL
301 ASHTRAY PACKAGE
309 CUP HOLDER
359 LOW COST TELEAID USA
359U TANZANITE BLUE METALLIC FINISH
389 MOBILE PRE.-INSTALLATION (MTUS) USA/CANADA COMPL.
396 LINGUATRONIC-AMERICAN
414 ELECTRIC TILT/SLIDE SUNROOF IN GLASS VERSION
423 5-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
460 KANADA-AUSFUEHRUNG / ZUSATZTEILE
477 TIRE PRESSURE LOSS WARNER
489 AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE
494 U.S. VERSION
524 PRODUCT PROT. F.PAINT - TRANSPORT VEH.PRESERVATION
528 COMAND DVD PLUS (WITHOUT NAVIGATION)
543 SUN VISOR WITH MAKE-UP MIRROR L. AND R., BE-
551 ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
573 CHILD SEAT MOUNTING, ISOFIX IN REAR
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
615 BI-XENON HEADLICHT W.ACTVIE CURVELIGHT RIGHT-DRIVE
619 CORNERING ILLUMINATION
634 DELETION - FIRST AID KIT
636 DELETION - WARNING TRIANGLE
668 PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/ TIE-DOWN HOOKS
673 HIGH-CAPACITY BATTERY
690 EMERGENCY SPARE TIRE (MINI SPARE)
701L CANADA
763 RADIO REMOTE CONTROL W/ PANIC SWITCH (315 MHZ)
7XXL NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA
807 AEJ 06/1/M/X
810 SOUND SYSTEM
819 CD CHANGER
820A AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE
821A AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BLACK/ANTH.
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
910 DYNAMO WITH HIGHER CAPACITY (FFO)
915 FUEL TANK WITH LARGER CAPACITY
919 AIRCON COOLING POWER PACKAGE
952 SPORTS PACKAGE
954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES
986 IDENTIFICATION NUMBER (VIN-NO.)
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
K12 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL
K14 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 20000 KM
M005 VEHICLES WITH 4-MATIC-/ALL WHEEL DRIVE
M273 V8-GASOLINE ENGINE M273
M55 CAPACITY 5,5 LITRE
R02 ALL SEASON TYRES
R68 LA 18" 10 DOUBLE SPOKE DESIGN
V47 SPEED + LOAD INDEX 93V
W60 DESIGNO WOOD FINISH BURRED WALNUT VENEER
Mercedes Benz VIN decoded at https://www.lastvin.com/vin/Yz6Xk2RqWPaE1xjL9
Mercedes specification 236.14, color is red. Here is one retailer:
Your VIN decode:
FIN WDB2110901B166494
VIN WDBUF90X37B166494
Model Year 2007
Model E 550 4MATIC
Engine 273962 30 149032
Transmission 722677 06 909173
Order Number 0 7 701 26690
Order Location CANADA
Interior AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BLACK/ANTH. (821A)
Paint 1 TANZANITE BLUE METALLIC FINISH (359U)
Release Date 2007-04-24
Delivery Date 2007-04-24
Code Description
212B OP. INSTRUCT. AND MAINT. BOOKLET-ENGL. FOR USA/CAN
213 SPEED-SENSITIVE POWER STEERING/VARIO STEERING
221B SIGN COOLANT/REFUELING - ENGLISH
232 GARAGE DOOR OPENER WITH 284 - 390 MHZ FREQUENCY
242 FRONT SEAT RH ELECTRIC ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY
249 INSIDE AND OUTSIDE MIRROR AUTOMATIC DIMMING
264 LICENSE PLATE ATTACHMENT AMERICA
265 LINES-NO.PLATE DISCONTINUED
267 TYPE-DESIGNATION DEVIATING
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
285B AIRBAG LABEL - ENGLISH / FRENCH FOR CANADA
289 WOOD/LEATHER STEERING-WHEEL
301 ASHTRAY PACKAGE
309 CUP HOLDER
359 LOW COST TELEAID USA
359U TANZANITE BLUE METALLIC FINISH
389 MOBILE PRE.-INSTALLATION (MTUS) USA/CANADA COMPL.
396 LINGUATRONIC-AMERICAN
414 ELECTRIC TILT/SLIDE SUNROOF IN GLASS VERSION
423 5-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
460 KANADA-AUSFUEHRUNG / ZUSATZTEILE
477 TIRE PRESSURE LOSS WARNER
489 AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE
494 U.S. VERSION
524 PRODUCT PROT. F.PAINT - TRANSPORT VEH.PRESERVATION
528 COMAND DVD PLUS (WITHOUT NAVIGATION)
543 SUN VISOR WITH MAKE-UP MIRROR L. AND R., BE-
551 ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
573 CHILD SEAT MOUNTING, ISOFIX IN REAR
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
615 BI-XENON HEADLICHT W.ACTVIE CURVELIGHT RIGHT-DRIVE
619 CORNERING ILLUMINATION
634 DELETION - FIRST AID KIT
636 DELETION - WARNING TRIANGLE
668 PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/ TIE-DOWN HOOKS
673 HIGH-CAPACITY BATTERY
690 EMERGENCY SPARE TIRE (MINI SPARE)
701L CANADA
763 RADIO REMOTE CONTROL W/ PANIC SWITCH (315 MHZ)
7XXL NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA
807 AEJ 06/1/M/X
810 SOUND SYSTEM
819 CD CHANGER
820A AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE
821A AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BLACK/ANTH.
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
910 DYNAMO WITH HIGHER CAPACITY (FFO)
915 FUEL TANK WITH LARGER CAPACITY
919 AIRCON COOLING POWER PACKAGE
952 SPORTS PACKAGE
954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES
986 IDENTIFICATION NUMBER (VIN-NO.)
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
K12 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL
K14 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 20000 KM
M005 VEHICLES WITH 4-MATIC-/ALL WHEEL DRIVE
M273 V8-GASOLINE ENGINE M273
M55 CAPACITY 5,5 LITRE
R02 ALL SEASON TYRES
R68 LA 18" 10 DOUBLE SPOKE DESIGN
V47 SPEED + LOAD INDEX 93V
W60 DESIGNO WOOD FINISH BURRED WALNUT VENEER
Mercedes Benz VIN decoded at https://www.lastvin.com/vin/Yz6Xk2RqWPaE1xjL9
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#8
Shell 134 is an alternative fluid used by many DIY'ers and even some non-corporate owned dealerships. It's more readily available than the OEM fluid (I believe it's either Fuchs Titan 134 or Pentosin in an MB bottle?).
The same transmission was used in a variety of Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler vehicles as well, so you might have some luck finding fluid at a Chrysler dealership. Asking for fluid for a Crossfire might be your best bet, it's identical mechanically to an SLK230 and has the 722.6 transmission.
As you've noticed there's no dipstick, but there is a dipstick/fill tube at the back of the engine on the passenger side. It'll be covered with a black cap with a red security seal on it (if it hasn't been removed and not replaced). You just remove the seal and remove the cap, then you can check the fluid with the dipstick accessory available at the dealer or on Amazon (but you can't leave the dipstick in the transmission).
If you don't have records indicating that the transmission was serviced, it may not be a bad idea to get the fluid and filter changed, as well as replacing the electrical connector O-ring. The o-ring is something like a $14 part but if/when it leaks and is left too long the leaking fluid can actually wick up the wiring harness and make its way into the transmission control module, replacing it at the same time as the fluid is cheap insurance. People have successfully cleaned up oil-contaminated computers and wiring connectors but it's better to avoid that all together.
Have you experienced any slipping since that one occurrence? Could have been a one off thing, an air pocket somewhere in the fluid path or something frozen?
The same transmission was used in a variety of Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler vehicles as well, so you might have some luck finding fluid at a Chrysler dealership. Asking for fluid for a Crossfire might be your best bet, it's identical mechanically to an SLK230 and has the 722.6 transmission.
As you've noticed there's no dipstick, but there is a dipstick/fill tube at the back of the engine on the passenger side. It'll be covered with a black cap with a red security seal on it (if it hasn't been removed and not replaced). You just remove the seal and remove the cap, then you can check the fluid with the dipstick accessory available at the dealer or on Amazon (but you can't leave the dipstick in the transmission).
If you don't have records indicating that the transmission was serviced, it may not be a bad idea to get the fluid and filter changed, as well as replacing the electrical connector O-ring. The o-ring is something like a $14 part but if/when it leaks and is left too long the leaking fluid can actually wick up the wiring harness and make its way into the transmission control module, replacing it at the same time as the fluid is cheap insurance. People have successfully cleaned up oil-contaminated computers and wiring connectors but it's better to avoid that all together.
Have you experienced any slipping since that one occurrence? Could have been a one off thing, an air pocket somewhere in the fluid path or something frozen?
#10
Thanks guys for all the valuable information.
It hasn't slipped since that one time which is a relief, but I have ordered a dipstick wouldnt doubt is was down a little bit with that many km on the car.
I will check the service records to see if theres a record or a filter/fluid change.
It hasn't slipped since that one time which is a relief, but I have ordered a dipstick wouldnt doubt is was down a little bit with that many km on the car.
I will check the service records to see if theres a record or a filter/fluid change.
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Cheapest fluid is from a Shell distributor, about $60 for a case of 12 quarts of the Shell ATF 134.
Vavoline Maxlife gets mentioned a lot, but guess what, they're not on MB's 236.14 approved list. Vavoline tends to do that. Either they're too cheap to pay for the certification or it doesn't quite meet spec in some ways. Others have used it. I wouldn't when there's a cheaper, approved fluid you can get and Shell ATF 134 is on that list. Also keep in mind that Shell lists distributors but some distributors have multiple locations so there may be one closer than you think.
https://www.shell.us/business-custom...r-locator.html
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...236.14_en.html
Vavoline Maxlife gets mentioned a lot, but guess what, they're not on MB's 236.14 approved list. Vavoline tends to do that. Either they're too cheap to pay for the certification or it doesn't quite meet spec in some ways. Others have used it. I wouldn't when there's a cheaper, approved fluid you can get and Shell ATF 134 is on that list. Also keep in mind that Shell lists distributors but some distributors have multiple locations so there may be one closer than you think.
https://www.shell.us/business-custom...r-locator.html
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...236.14_en.html
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I checked with 3 Walmarts in the Chicagoland area for Valvoline ATF Pro 236.14 (https://pisheets.valvoline.com/#/val...atf-pro-236-14) and ... nothing. I've always had the best luck with Shell Distributors.
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NAG1 = Chrysler Applications
722.6 = Mercedes Benz Applications
Best I can tell is the difference is in the Torque Converters which might be the need for two different fluids.
Valvoline MaxLife ATF NAG1 = Chrysler applications.
Valvoline ATF Pro 236.14 = Mercedes applications.
722.6 = Mercedes Benz Applications
Best I can tell is the difference is in the Torque Converters which might be the need for two different fluids.
Valvoline MaxLife ATF NAG1 = Chrysler applications.
Valvoline ATF Pro 236.14 = Mercedes applications.
#16
AKA the exact same thing with the same components built in different factories. Chrysler's made in Europe got the 722.6, MBs built in the US got the NAG1. As far as I know all the AWD Chrysler 722.6 trannies came from MBs factory in Europe and they're still called NAG1.
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http://www.atraonline.com/gears/2008.../2008_3_38.pdf
When the Valvoline MaxLife NAG1 fluid lists compatibility with 722.6 236.14 or MB spec 236.14 lists MaxLife NAG1 - I'd say the two fluids could be used interchangeably. Until then - It would seem the applications are different and require different fluids.
When the Valvoline MaxLife NAG1 fluid lists compatibility with 722.6 236.14 or MB spec 236.14 lists MaxLife NAG1 - I'd say the two fluids could be used interchangeably. Until then - It would seem the applications are different and require different fluids.
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http://www.atraonline.com/gears/2008.../2008_3_38.pdf
When the Valvoline MaxLife NAG1 fluid lists compatibility with 722.6 236.14 or MB spec 236.14 lists MaxLife NAG1 - I'd say the two fluids could be used interchangeably. Until then - It would seem the applications are different and require different fluids.
When the Valvoline MaxLife NAG1 fluid lists compatibility with 722.6 236.14 or MB spec 236.14 lists MaxLife NAG1 - I'd say the two fluids could be used interchangeably. Until then - It would seem the applications are different and require different fluids.
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It's not my opinion nor am I interested in how anyone chooses to maintain their vehicles. What I have provided, as well as others above, is OEM or OEM equivalent information. I did not author any of it. A VIN was provided by the OP. That VIN lists a 722.6 transmission. The OEM Manufacturer Mercedes Benz provides an approved fluid guide. That guide points to the OP's vehicle as requiring automatic transmission fluid meeting spec 236.14. Mercedes Benz lists ONE Valvoline product meeting that spec as Valvoline ATF Pro 236.14. Certainly you clicked on the link above? Does your landing page show MaxLife?
Since my information is backed with credible OEM documentation - and until you produce a MaxLife document meeting 236.14 spec or a 236.14 Bevo page listing MaxLife, it would appear as if you are offering your opinion.
Your next post should substantiate why you are recommending to use a fluid not listed as applicable to a Mercedes Benz 722.6 transmission requiring spec 236.14.
Since my information is backed with credible OEM documentation - and until you produce a MaxLife document meeting 236.14 spec or a 236.14 Bevo page listing MaxLife, it would appear as if you are offering your opinion.
Your next post should substantiate why you are recommending to use a fluid not listed as applicable to a Mercedes Benz 722.6 transmission requiring spec 236.14.
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https://www.expeditersonline.com/for...7/#post-658452
If it meets spec, use it with confidence. If it doesn't meet spec, why even gamble?
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I don't think you get it. I wouldn't use it in my car. You can use whatever you like in yours. I just wouldn't recommend a fluid that tries to be everything to everyone when you can just get the one speced by the manufacturer and meets their approval. But if saving a few pennies is worth it to you, then have it. I'm sure those Volvo and Mazda customers thought the same as you.
You don't even have a history of giving good advice, I'm not really sure what you're doing on here.
You don't even have a history of giving good advice, I'm not really sure what you're doing on here.
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I don't think you get it. I wouldn't use it in my car. You can use whatever you like in yours. I just wouldn't recommend a fluid that tries to be everything to everyone when you can just get the one speced by the manufacturer and meets their approval. But if saving a few pennies is worth it to you, then have it. I'm sure those Volvo and Mazda customers thought the same as you.
You don't even have a history of giving good advice, I'm not really sure what you're doing on here.
You don't even have a history of giving good advice, I'm not really sure what you're doing on here.
#25
I appreciate all the energy in this post,
good for a chuckle. But I can see that people have strong views on this.
This is what I got. Anyone think I should NOT use this in my transmission? It's the proper fluid for the NAG1. Cant find any cross numbers anywhere but it would seem to me that if the NAG1 and 722.6 is the same the fluid should be fully interchangeable
good for a chuckle. But I can see that people have strong views on this.
This is what I got. Anyone think I should NOT use this in my transmission? It's the proper fluid for the NAG1. Cant find any cross numbers anywhere but it would seem to me that if the NAG1 and 722.6 is the same the fluid should be fully interchangeable