Dripping liquid substance
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Dripping liquid substance
I am about to take the car to the shop in a couple of days, but I would like to take your advice before doing so.
I realized last week that after leaving the car parked overnight, in the next morning I see two small (size of a dinner plate) puddles on the ground when I leave for work.
One is located below the front end of the car (behind the MB star), and the other between the passenger and driver seats.
The liquid is not water or thick as oil, but something in between. The liquid does not smell anything particular.
I am not sure if this liquid is coming from the Air conditioning, but I doubt it since I understand the air condition releases water from condensation, and this is not water.
(I drive always with the Air condition on).
Anyone had this same experience?. Is this normal?.
Thanks
Javier
I realized last week that after leaving the car parked overnight, in the next morning I see two small (size of a dinner plate) puddles on the ground when I leave for work.
One is located below the front end of the car (behind the MB star), and the other between the passenger and driver seats.
The liquid is not water or thick as oil, but something in between. The liquid does not smell anything particular.
I am not sure if this liquid is coming from the Air conditioning, but I doubt it since I understand the air condition releases water from condensation, and this is not water.
(I drive always with the Air condition on).
Anyone had this same experience?. Is this normal?.
Thanks
Javier
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Originally Posted by jav
I am about to take the car to the shop in a couple of days, but I would like to take your advice before doing so.
I realized last week that after leaving the car parked overnight, in the next morning I see two small (size of a dinner plate) puddles on the ground when I leave for work.
One is located below the front end of the car (behind the MB star), and the other between the passenger and driver seats.
The liquid is not water or thick as oil, but something in between. The liquid does not smell anything particular.
I am not sure if this liquid is coming from the Air conditioning, but I doubt it since I understand the air condition releases water from condensation, and this is not water.
(I drive always with the Air condition on).
Anyone had this same experience?. Is this normal?.
Thanks
Javier
I realized last week that after leaving the car parked overnight, in the next morning I see two small (size of a dinner plate) puddles on the ground when I leave for work.
One is located below the front end of the car (behind the MB star), and the other between the passenger and driver seats.
The liquid is not water or thick as oil, but something in between. The liquid does not smell anything particular.
I am not sure if this liquid is coming from the Air conditioning, but I doubt it since I understand the air condition releases water from condensation, and this is not water.
(I drive always with the Air condition on).
Anyone had this same experience?. Is this normal?.
Thanks
Javier
This could be:
1) air condition fault as you mentioned
2) there are two places under the car (around driver seat and on the opposite side of the car, bottom), where rain water accumulates (in case it's a rainy day).
l1
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Thanks for the input.
Originally I thought AC possibility, but in stead of asking for a check up appointment, I just stopped at MB for a quick stop and asked them to raise the car to take a look.
It appears that the seal of the transmission box is leaking transmission fluid. They changed the seal on the spot and everything was solved.
Now, I had three cars of my own (as per my signature), and I have to say that first mechanical problem on the Celica was the transmission 4 years after I bought it, and for the Sebring I had no problem so far.
My first Mercedes, and after 5 months, I have the first problem.
Ok, it is a minor problem, but already my previous two cars are proving more reliable.
The car is great, I love it, rides beautifully, its a show-off, my best purchase ever, but I am just a little disappointed today.
(On the other hand, MB service guys were perfect)
Just wanted to share.
Originally I thought AC possibility, but in stead of asking for a check up appointment, I just stopped at MB for a quick stop and asked them to raise the car to take a look.
It appears that the seal of the transmission box is leaking transmission fluid. They changed the seal on the spot and everything was solved.
Now, I had three cars of my own (as per my signature), and I have to say that first mechanical problem on the Celica was the transmission 4 years after I bought it, and for the Sebring I had no problem so far.
My first Mercedes, and after 5 months, I have the first problem.
Ok, it is a minor problem, but already my previous two cars are proving more reliable.
The car is great, I love it, rides beautifully, its a show-off, my best purchase ever, but I am just a little disappointed today.
(On the other hand, MB service guys were perfect)
Just wanted to share.
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Hm, just one problem for 5 months? I must say you are very lucky 
I have 30000 km on speedometer and have already changed a gearbox, rear shock-absorbers, steering wheel column (not mentioning electrical troubles and all-the-time tinkling of something)
l1
I have 30000 km on speedometer and have already changed a gearbox, rear shock-absorbers, steering wheel column (not mentioning electrical troubles and all-the-time tinkling of something)
l1
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I see you had much more trouble than me.
I see other post in the forum about guys that have their cars on the shop for a month, after only a couple of months from purchase, so maybe I am being a little picky over this issue.
But this something to think about. Are we, MB users, increasing the threshold for what once was abnormal to considering it normal nowadays?
I know friends of my parents who had Mercedes long time ago (some of the forum members can rely to my following comments) and they did not have this type of problems. Now it has become “normal” to go to the shop.
When I was on the states (8 years ago), I saw an article that on the newspaper which stated that Cadillac was not considered a luxury car any more because the experts defined luxury car basically as comfortable, engine technology and gadgets, and exclusiveness.
Apparently Cadillac cars stopped being a luxury car because it was not exclusive any more because of sales increase.
Is the same happening to MB (or BMW)?.
Are sales so high that it is beginning to cause MB to look more to the economical side rather than promoting the “luxurious” bur rather more reliable better built and more expensive cars.
I am not saying that MB cars are like a Honda Civic, as I still consider MB to be one of the best cars ever built, but comparing within MB scope, I wonder if the sales “theme” is overtaking the luxurious “theme”.
(Is this why MB launched the Maybach, not to loose the “Luxurious” tag?)
Even the said above, I am very happy with my “small” MB-E240 and will purchase another MB (500) car after my present one.
I see other post in the forum about guys that have their cars on the shop for a month, after only a couple of months from purchase, so maybe I am being a little picky over this issue.
But this something to think about. Are we, MB users, increasing the threshold for what once was abnormal to considering it normal nowadays?
I know friends of my parents who had Mercedes long time ago (some of the forum members can rely to my following comments) and they did not have this type of problems. Now it has become “normal” to go to the shop.
When I was on the states (8 years ago), I saw an article that on the newspaper which stated that Cadillac was not considered a luxury car any more because the experts defined luxury car basically as comfortable, engine technology and gadgets, and exclusiveness.
Apparently Cadillac cars stopped being a luxury car because it was not exclusive any more because of sales increase.
Is the same happening to MB (or BMW)?.
Are sales so high that it is beginning to cause MB to look more to the economical side rather than promoting the “luxurious” bur rather more reliable better built and more expensive cars.
I am not saying that MB cars are like a Honda Civic, as I still consider MB to be one of the best cars ever built, but comparing within MB scope, I wonder if the sales “theme” is overtaking the luxurious “theme”.
(Is this why MB launched the Maybach, not to loose the “Luxurious” tag?)
Even the said above, I am very happy with my “small” MB-E240 and will purchase another MB (500) car after my present one.
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Originally Posted by jav
But this something to think about. Are we, MB users, increasing the threshold for what once was abnormal to considering it normal nowadays?
I know friends of my parents who had Mercedes long time ago (some of the forum members can rely to my following comments) and they did not have this type of problems. Now it has become “normal” to go to the shop.
I know friends of my parents who had Mercedes long time ago (some of the forum members can rely to my following comments) and they did not have this type of problems. Now it has become “normal” to go to the shop.
It is usually the electronic 'bells and whistles' that are having minor teething problems and perhaps more money and time should be spent on research and most importantly, the development of any new item before it is put into any new vehicle.
Most problems or complaints are being resolved with 'software' upgrades which I feel should have all been resolved during the development stage of any new vehicle. The customer should NOT be responsible for finding problems.
Once again though I must stress that the E-class is an excellent vehicle and my son will very shortly be cleaning ours
John
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Originally Posted by lucky1
Well, if look from "troubles" point of view, this w211 is the worst car i ever had.
On the other hand, it's a best car i ever had (in terms of comfort and the ride)
l1
On the other hand, it's a best car i ever had (in terms of comfort and the ride)
l1
I believe we see MB as more than just a vehicle of transportation, and this is what makes the brand of MB.
I would call on MB to keep this brand going strong, so in the future the MB brand is not considered just a vehicle.
Can anybody from MB Europe or US comment on this?. I think this is something we all want to know “What is the future of MB as a brand?”
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Mr Royce (of Rolls Royce) was once asked at a dinner party "What would happen if you ever built a 'bad car'"
He replied, "Madam, the gentleman at the door would never let it out"!!!!!!!!!
Mercedes-Benz might not be Rolls Royce, but someone should be: 'on the door'.
80% of all Rolls Royce ever built are still 'alive' and either on display or in use.
John
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He replied, "Madam, the gentleman at the door would never let it out"!!!!!!!!!
Mercedes-Benz might not be Rolls Royce, but someone should be: 'on the door'.
80% of all Rolls Royce ever built are still 'alive' and either on display or in use.
John
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Torquay
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I had to have my rear axle seal replaced within 90 days of delivery due to a failure which caused smoke on hard acceleration. (The wrong kind). It sort of does lower the lofty engineering of MB down to the levels of mere mortals. I think the way above average standards of engineering/manufacture in the past raised MB above all the competition, even though they had the looks of "classics" (Handsome NOT beautiful). Now that they have the style (absolutely beautiful, as each model is redone) of the best of them, I figue that MB has 2 years to wipe out the quality issues to restore the impeccable engineering/assembly status of the gods, or they'll fall to be one of the pack.
Being "above the pack" is what its all about in the promotion & advertising of Luxury cars. I'd have to believe they are dead serious about making that goal a reality.
Being "above the pack" is what its all about in the promotion & advertising of Luxury cars. I'd have to believe they are dead serious about making that goal a reality.
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
I had to have my rear axle seal replaced within 90 days of delivery due to a failure which caused smoke on hard acceleration. (The wrong kind). It sort of does lower the lofty engineering of MB down to the levels of mere mortals. I think the way above average standards of engineering/manufacture in the past raised MB above all the competition, even though they had the looks of "classics" (Handsome NOT beautiful). Now that they have the style (absolutely beautiful, as each model is redone) of the best of them, I figue that MB has 2 years to wipe out the quality issues to restore the impeccable engineering/assembly status of the gods, or they'll fall to be one of the pack.
Being "above the pack" is what its all about in the promotion & advertising of Lusury cars. I'd have to believe they are dead serious about making that goal a reality.
Being "above the pack" is what its all about in the promotion & advertising of Lusury cars. I'd have to believe they are dead serious about making that goal a reality.
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this forum makes me nervous!
Now onto my third MB, 190, C240 and now E320 (had it three weeks). Not had any problems of any significance that were not fixed by dealer during routine service.
My C needed the rear headrest fiddled with to stop them squeaking and I find the E smells damp/humid on a hot day when I start up for a minute or two. Not been too worried about it (until I joined this forum!
)
Am I the exception? Can I look forward to problems? Or it is just that the forum is a place where issues are aired, while thousands of other MBs run without problem?
AndyK
My C needed the rear headrest fiddled with to stop them squeaking and I find the E smells damp/humid on a hot day when I start up for a minute or two. Not been too worried about it (until I joined this forum!
)Am I the exception? Can I look forward to problems? Or it is just that the forum is a place where issues are aired, while thousands of other MBs run without problem?
AndyK
