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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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05 E Class COMAND in 04 E Class

Since the new 05 radios play MP3's and DVD's, can you put the 05 radio in an 04. If so how would I go about doing that?
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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I was told by my dealer that you can't.. I kinda' can't see the reason and he didn't know either.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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I was told by my dealer that you can't.. I kinda' can't see the reason and he didn't know either.
Thats a straight up lie.. Some 04's/replacement cars have the DVD drive in it. come on, if myself and many others have put european units in for gods sake, why couldnt an NA one be retrofitted? and the Euro /NA 05 are the same macarroni, hardware wise. I hate dealerships.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Thats a straight up lie.. Some 04's/replacement cars have the DVD drive in it. come on, if myself and many others have put european units in for gods sake, why couldnt an NA one be retrofitted? and the Euro /NA 05 are the same macarroni, hardware wise.
Yes, but how about the most recent '05's with the new center console? For example, my center armrest could not be swapped with the previous version because they said the fiber optic system has been changed. I don't precisely know what they mean by that. I don't know if the difference is in the connection, harnessing, routing, or technology. However, I wonder if the difference could also affect the Head Unit. Perhaps Scorchie could answer that.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Since the new 05 radios play MP3's and DVD's, can you put the 05 radio in an 04. If so how would I go about doing that?
Yes. Just replace it.

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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Yes, but how about the most recent '05's with the new center console? For example, my center armrest could not be swapped with the previous version because they said the fiber optic system has been changed. I don't precisely know what they mean by that. I don't know if the difference is in the connection, harnessing, routing, or technology. However, I wonder if the difference could also affect the Head Unit. Perhaps Scorchie could answer that.
I think the bus protocol changed from CAN to MOST between '04 and '05.
There is quite a bit of information on the net about the MOST system now in use. It's the closest thing to a vendor-independent standard for car audio I've ever seen. You can read more about it at this link.

I suspect the wire routing issue is simply a different harness for cars with different consoles. (I'm still holding out for a swap to the old-style console after I take delivery in November. Heck, I know how to splice fiber...)
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Actually I believe the w211 uses a MOST ring network for it's audio and communication modules connected to CANBUS from the AGW. This design hasn't changed from the beginning. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pa28pilot
I think the bus protocol changed from CAN to MOST between '04 and '05.
All 211s have MOST...and besides that...there isn't a SINGLE component in the armest that is connected to MOST so the armrest most probably can be changed to pre 2005 style...

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dont know if im off topic here but i have a 05 that doesnt play dvds but we dont have the navigation sys should it play them???
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 12:32 AM
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Actually I believe the w211 uses a MOST ring network for it's audio and communication modules connected to CANBUS from the AGW. This design hasn't changed from the beginning. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
Nope, I meant to say "changed from D2B to MOST". I think I slipped a bit in my brain there.

(and to think I used to be a network protocol developer)
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