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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SAguirre
My linguatronic still works on my phone, radio, cd, and cdc. It would not bee too hard to disable it to work on the NAV (wich they did), but then enable it on the Euro version. That is software usually.

Like you said, it might not work, but it is worth a shot.

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Did you see the commands in this link
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/62490-linguatronic-commands-complete-list-long.html ? Will your Voice Control accept all those commands except Navigation?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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We have different hardware. The PSE module that controls Linguaronic and the Phone I belive are different for the US market.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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Is it less than MBUSA?
I don't know... No MB dealer I have spoken to on Long Island knows anything about the NavUp Subscription program. They tell me to call MBUSA. MBUSA told me to call Navteq. I don't know what I did with Navteq's quote, but I will call Navteq to order the subscription after January some time...
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Oslo
Did you see the commands in this link
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62490 ? Will your Voice Control accept all those commands except Navigation?
Yes, it accepts all the commands, but stops at the NAV!!! isn't that a *****?

We can even switch the radio to weather band (which is not available in Europe, as far as I know).

That is why I was just thinking that it might be a simple switch, but is probably not that simple.

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Lana
We have different hardware. The PSE module that controls Linguaronic and the Phone I belive are different for the US market.

Unfortunately, I think that you are right. But I think you will agree that it is worth a try.

Steve
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HELL ONA HARLEY
Sounds like you need to hit the + button for more of a (zoom in) setting...

My nav shows every street name, cross street, side street and parallel street name. The catch is you need to be in the most zoomed in setting... If this isn't working then you either have problems with your system or they simply didn't name the streets in your town
This is what's interesting to me. I have the same complaint and can compare my E55 to what I used to see when I had my '03 E500. I always have (on the old car as well) the map as "zoomed" in as possible. It is amazing how often the map is just a grid. these same roads on my E500 were all listed on the map. What's even funnier is that it's kinda intermittent! Some times the name will be there, other times not! I even borrowed a different disc from my dealer and it was the same. I don't know how, but the '03 E500 disc did a muc better job of displaying streets. Oh BTW, i'm in a major metropolitan area.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Yeah, I found out the hard way that linguatronic cannot control my Comand. I have a W203 but had a retrofitted Eurospec version of Comand put in by Steve. My voice recognition system allows me to change only the radio, cd, and do phone #'s but no option for Nav. Disappointed we can't use it like the setup you have Oslo (much safer option than trying to manually put it in with car in motion). Let me know if anyone does find a way to have voice recog work in the US for navigation comands.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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Here are some pics

Bellow is a couple of pictures that show that there are W211 NAV systems that label streets. I think that it might be dependant on the version we have. Also, I hope that we will have more streets show up when next year's DVD comes out. Also, Longmont CO is a small town (80K people), most all the streets are listed nicely.

My favorite feature is that I have a German car with a built-in compass that is not affected by magnetic distortion. We in the US sure use cardinal directions a lot. Also, having the street name on the compass display is even better! CHECK OUT THE TEMPERATURE!! I put it in both units so that the people in the rest of the world can see how cold it can get over here (January is our coldest month). Needless to say, I am very happy that MBs have very good heaters!

I also had a bunch of Starbucks, but I forgot to take a pic and list the category.

I tried to switch the command unit to the Euro setting. However, that setting is only good for the "keyboard." The first page that comes up while doing the 5, 37 was all for US models. O well, it was worth a try anyway.

I like the NAV system I got! But I am sure there are better ones out there.

Steve
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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how much to install voice recognition/lingua tronic? I'm in the US. are they the same thing?
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lpolo
how much to install voice recognition/lingua tronic? I'm in the US. are they the same thing?
Well, I had the phone installed and I asked for the voice recognition as well. I think that it is the same thing, but the US version does not control the NAV system. But I like the voice recognition and find that it makes my car safer. The phone is OK, but it is overpriced and old. It took me forever to get the V60 linked to MS Outlook.

All the stuff was just under $2k. Can you believe it? It must be nice to have money to burn!

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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this is what the C-class comand looks like:

the street you need to turn into is displayed on top, the street you are current on is displayed at the bottom. on the bottom far right is the distance before you need to make the turn. a racing flag appears when you reach your destination.

pic #5 is the exact location where the car was when the navigation system said "you've reached your destination."
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SAguirre
CHECK OUT THE TEMPERATURE!! I put it in both units so that the people in the rest of the world can see how cold it can get over here (January is our coldest month). Needless to say, I am very happy that MBs have very good heaters!
-19c or -2f !!!!!!!! I don't even want to try and imagine that degree of brrrrrrr

Last year we had two days where the frost actually remained until lunchtime. -19c Noooooo way hozey.

Come on Oslo let's hear how it is in sunny Norway??

I can honestly say, "I do not like the cold" -19c !!!!!! Ouch!

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A cold +6c, sunny morning in the English Riviera
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
this is what the C-class comand looks like:

the street you need to turn into is displayed on top, the street you are current on is displayed at the bottom. on the bottom far right is the distance before you need to make the turn. a racing flag appears when you reach your destination.

pic #5 is the exact location where the car was when the navigation system said "you've reached your destination."
This is the exact same as my W211. I guess you also get the dir of travel when you don't have a destination entered right?

Otherwise, my screen and my MFD do the same thing. The streets are labeled and the street you are on the the one you need to tun on are displayed TOP/BOTTOM of the Command. Then the MFD has the same info as yours.

Aside from Bud C., am I the only one with a W211 that works like the C class? I really like my sytem! I only said that about 20 times

Steve
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SAguirre
This is the exact same as my W211. I guess you also get the dir of travel when you don't have a destination entered right?
Yep. that is what i get.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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I just got a SLK55 and it looks like you have the same Nav system. I have a question. There is an option where "Home" can be setup. One of the options under home is to use the "Current Location" which is nice. What if you want to save a destination using the "Current location" There is no such option so I don't have a way to do this. I used to have a 2001 CLK55 and I had no problems doing this.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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I just got a SLK55 and it looks like you have the same Nav system. I have a question. There is an option where "Home" can be setup. One of the options under home is to use the "Current Location" which is nice. What if you want to save a destination using the "Current location" There is no such option so I don't have a way to do this. I used to have a 2001 CLK55 and I had no problems doing this.
There is a way to enter a location "current location" as a destination. I use it because some friends of mine live in areas that are not on maps (yet). I can not remember off the top of my head how to do it, but it is definitely possible. The only problem is that sometimes I find the way to do it and then I can't find it when I want to do it again..

What you can also do is use the map to pinpoint a location and then save it. If I can remember to actually trace it down, then I will do it and list the steps.

By the way. I just showed my Uncle my new MB and he was impressed with the Nav system. We were driving in downtown boulder and he immediately noticed how detailed the display was (in instructions and warning to turn and so on). He was comparing the system to his 2004 Lexus LS 430 (I think that is what he just bought this year). He likes the Lexus (totally trouble free), but he still missed his 700 series BMWs and might switch back once they look nicer. He admits that the German cars are still worth the aggravation they can cause.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SAguirre
There is a way to enter a location "current location" as a destination. I use it because some friends of mine live in areas that are not on maps (yet). I can not remember off the top of my head how to do it, but it is definitely possible. The only problem is that sometimes I find the way to do it and then I can't find it when I want to do it again..

What you can also do is use the map to pinpoint a location and then save it. If I can remember to actually trace it down, then I will do it and list the steps.


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Thanks. I went back and tried the map option. It did not work because it did not show my current location. I looked thru the manual and no luck. I'll have to ask my salesperson.
I feel the same about german cars. I was very close to getting an Acura RL and might do so in a couple of years.

Also, when using the steering control to select a radio station. Are you able to configure it to flip thru your presets instead of doing a scan to then next available station? I used to be able to do this on my CLK.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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Thanks. I went back and tried the map option. It did not work because it did not show my current location. I looked thru the manual and no luck. I'll have to ask my salesperson.
I feel the same about german cars. I was very close to getting an Acura RL and might do so in a couple of years.

Also, when using the steering control to select a radio station. Are you able to configure it to flip thru your presets instead of doing a scan to then next available station? I used to be able to do this on my CLK.

Thanks

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If it did not show your current position; was your car in the garage? I know it might sound stupid, but I thought I should ask. If it was in the garage roll it out and then try it again.

The only time my NAV system works when inside is when I drive though long tunnels (the Eisenhower Tunnel). The coordinates and altitude disappear, but the arrow still moves. I suspect that since the system knows I am in a tunnel, it uses the speedometer to guess how far along I am. The road is not solid when in the tunnel, it is stripped, but the system knows exactly when I should be out of the tunnel and back on to solid color road (on the map).

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SAguirre
If it did not show your current position; was your car in the garage? I know it might sound stupid, but I thought I should ask. If it was in the garage roll it out and then try it again.

The only time my NAV system works when inside is when I drive though long tunnels (the Eisenhower Tunnel). The coordinates and altitude disappear, but the arrow still moves. I suspect that since the system knows I am in a tunnel, it uses the speedometer to guess how far along I am. The road is not solid when in the tunnel, it is stripped, but the system knows exactly when I should be out of the tunnel and back on to solid color road (on the map).

Steve
It is not guessing! There is more into the Navigation system. When you are in a tunnel, or in any other way loosing the GPS signal, there are backup systems. It will use the ABS sensors and gyro sensors to measure your movements. Here in Norway we have some very long tunnels. Last month I drove through one of them (it is 24, 5 kilometres long (15,22 miles)). The Navigation system worked all the way showing bends and ramps exactly.


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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:54 AM
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It is not guessing! There is more into the Navigation system. When you are in a tunnel, or in any other way loosing the GPS signal, there are backup systems. It will use the ABS sensors and a gyro compass to measure your movements. Here in Norway we have some very long tunnels. Last month I drove through one of them (it is 24, 5 kilometres long). The Navigation system worked all the way showing bends and ramps exactly.
Thanks for the info! I thought there was much more to it that just the gps satellites.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SAguirre
There is a way to enter a location "current location" as a destination. I use it because some friends of mine live in areas that are not on maps (yet). I can not remember off the top of my head how to do it, but it is definitely possible.
Here's how to do that:
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Here's how to do that:
Thanks!!. I was wondering what the memory soft button did.
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