**Official Price Thread**
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From: Los Angeles
E350 Sedan, P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama roof
$50,902 (Selling price of the car)
$875 (Destination charges)
$5,048 (Sales tax. That's a killer in LA - 9.75%)
$3,855 (2.9% interest charge)
$800 (Title, registration, document fee, tire fees, and whatever other pennies they can squeeze out of you)
Pretty much, the only thing that's typically negotiable is the price of the car, which I got over $8,000 off on. HOWEVER, until January 4th, the interest rate is negotiable too. Mercedes, is running a special for 3.9% (which is still good), BUT what they don't tell you is that, 1% of that rate is a dealer incentive, so if u bargain enough, u can get it for as little as 2.9%, which is exactly what I did.
ALSO, as a little bonus, if you purchase the car before the end of THIS year, the entire sales tax is deductible, so I'll be getting about 2k back.
To me, it didn't make sense to lease this year, because the residual is lower than the previous years, and the money factor is pretty high right now. The same car would have cost me $725/month to lease for 36 months, plus 4k down. And then, at the end, I would've had to give it back...
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CL500
You gave me a heart attach for a sec, but that's correct, hehe. I don't have the exact numbers with me right now, but this is what the $61,480 includes (roughly) -
$50,902 (Selling price of the car)
$875 (Destination charges)
$5,048 (Sales tax. That's a killer in LA - 9.75%)
$3,855 (2.9% interest charge)
$800 (Title, registration, document fee, tire fees, and whatever other pennies they can squeeze out of you)
Pretty much, the only thing that's typically negotiable is the price of the car, which I got over $8,000 off on. HOWEVER, until January 4th, the interest rate is negotiable too. Mercedes, is running a special for 3.9% (which is still good), BUT what they don't tell you is that, 1% of that rate is a dealer incentive, so if u bargain enough, u can get it for as little as 2.9%, which is exactly what I did.
ALSO, as a little bonus, if you purchase the car before the end of THIS year, the entire sales tax is deductible, so I'll be getting about 2k back.
To me, it didn't make sense to lease this year, because the residual is lower than the previous years, and the money factor is pretty high right now. The same car would have cost me $725/month to lease for 36 months, plus 4k down. And then, at the end, I would've had to give it back...
$50,902 (Selling price of the car)
$875 (Destination charges)
$5,048 (Sales tax. That's a killer in LA - 9.75%)
$3,855 (2.9% interest charge)
$800 (Title, registration, document fee, tire fees, and whatever other pennies they can squeeze out of you)
Pretty much, the only thing that's typically negotiable is the price of the car, which I got over $8,000 off on. HOWEVER, until January 4th, the interest rate is negotiable too. Mercedes, is running a special for 3.9% (which is still good), BUT what they don't tell you is that, 1% of that rate is a dealer incentive, so if u bargain enough, u can get it for as little as 2.9%, which is exactly what I did.
ALSO, as a little bonus, if you purchase the car before the end of THIS year, the entire sales tax is deductible, so I'll be getting about 2k back.
To me, it didn't make sense to lease this year, because the residual is lower than the previous years, and the money factor is pretty high right now. The same car would have cost me $725/month to lease for 36 months, plus 4k down. And then, at the end, I would've had to give it back...
Ya leasing it should of cost you around $30,000, would of that included title/destination/sales tax? If not it could of been around $35,000 to lease for 3 years. Smart buy and once again nice deal.
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2010 E350
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Wait, what's this talk about being able to deduct now but not after the new year?
I've been thinking of getting a new DD, just haven't had the time to go to any Dealers and go through the whole process. Would suck if I missed the opportunity.
I've been thinking of getting a new DD, just haven't had the time to go to any Dealers and go through the whole process. Would suck if I missed the opportunity.
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2010 E350
I suppose they might extend it, like they did with the home-buyer credit (that one now runs through April). Otherwise you might want to take off from work tomorrow and go car shopping.
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LOL, might have to make that a plan for tomorrow. 
With us in Cali, that's a pretty solid deduction, with our ridiculous Tax percentage.
With us in Cali, that's a pretty solid deduction, with our ridiculous Tax percentage.
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CL500
Hey, this may sound dumb (first time buying by myself), I'm from California where the statewide sales tax is 8.25% and around here I believe is 9.25%. Would it be smart if I purchased my car in Arizona where I believe the sales tax is 5.6%? This is assuming I can get the same deal at the dealership in Arizona.
California sales tax total @ 9.25% = $4,825
Arizona sales tax total @ 5.6% = $2,800
Total Saving: $2,025
(I just punched in $50,000 for the value of the car)
California sales tax total @ 9.25% = $4,825
Arizona sales tax total @ 5.6% = $2,800
Total Saving: $2,025
(I just punched in $50,000 for the value of the car)
Last edited by Minuteman; Dec 30, 2009 at 07:59 PM. Reason: added savings
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Hey, this may sound dumb (first time buying by myself), I'm from California where the statewide sales tax is 8.25% and around here I believe is 9.25%. Would it be smart if I purchased my car in Arizona where I believe the sales tax is 5.6%? This is assuming I can get the same deal at the dealership in Arizona.
California sales tax total @ 9.25% = $4,825
Arizona sales tax total @ 5.6% = $2,800
Total Saving: $2,025
(I just punched in $50,000 for the value of the car)
California sales tax total @ 9.25% = $4,825
Arizona sales tax total @ 5.6% = $2,800
Total Saving: $2,025
(I just punched in $50,000 for the value of the car)
p.s., plus you can't legally register it new here. You'd have to register it there and put at least 5k or own it for a year in AZ.
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CL500
What I figured, damn you California and your insanely high sales tax.
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Haha, I can't help but laugh at CA's stupid high Sales Tax. If you buy a $50K car, you're paying about $5K in JUST taxes. Stupid stupid high.
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Be careful before you guys get all excited about deducting sales taxes. As we all know those in the higher income brackets are evil and therefor do not qualify for the deduction. Actually from what I see it seems prosperity is SO evil that not only do we get nailed for higher taxes and none of these stimulus packages or special deals but now they are going to raise the top tax brackets roughly 35% in the next two years. AHHH its good to be the devil, isn't it?
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2010 E350
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However, if you can find a better price in Arizona then it might be worth it. I saved a good chunk by buying out-of-state. And it was no hassle at all (other than the distance); the dealership just incorporated my local sales tax and handled all the registration for me. Internet pricing makes it a lot easier to get a good deal, especially if you live in a place with only one MB dealership (like I do).
And California has state income tax and high overall cost of living. I can't imagine living out there. Sales tax where I live is 9.25%, but housing is cheap and there's no state income tax. Of course I don't have ocean views, but the mountains aren't bad.
And California has state income tax and high overall cost of living. I can't imagine living out there. Sales tax where I live is 9.25%, but housing is cheap and there's no state income tax. Of course I don't have ocean views, but the mountains aren't bad.
Yeah, c.o.l out here is very high, I imagine TN gives you some stress relief there.
Aside from the c.o.l, don't forget about L.A's ability to ****** a ticket out of you. My bro just got in from out of town, already 2 Parking Tickets and 1 Red Light Camera Ticket, no joke.
Saving on State Tax is huge!
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Be careful before you guys get all excited about deducting sales taxes. As we all know those in the higher income brackets are evil and therefor do not qualify for the deduction. Actually from what I see it seems prosperity is SO evil that not only do we get nailed for higher taxes and none of these stimulus packages or special deals but now they are going to raise the top tax brackets roughly 35% in the next two years. AHHH its good to be the devil, isn't it?
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From: TN
2010 E350
Wow you guys are 9.25 too huh.
Yeah, c.o.l out here is very high, I imagine TN gives you some stress relief there.
Aside from the c.o.l, don't forget about L.A's ability to ****** a ticket out of you. My bro just got in from out of town, already 2 Parking Tickets and 1 Red Light Camera Ticket, no joke.
Saving on State Tax is huge!
Yeah, c.o.l out here is very high, I imagine TN gives you some stress relief there.
Aside from the c.o.l, don't forget about L.A's ability to ****** a ticket out of you. My bro just got in from out of town, already 2 Parking Tickets and 1 Red Light Camera Ticket, no joke.
Saving on State Tax is huge!
Yes, TN is nice, but it's still not as good as Texas. In Texas, COL is the same, sales tax is lower and still no state income tax. Plus, there's no tax on food groceries in Texas like there are here. Paying almost 10% tax on a loaf of bread just seems crazy to me. I think property taxes are higher, but that's okay. I live in small houses anyway.
Still, nothing is better than knowing that if the Federal government gets too out of control, my fellow Texans will have no problem supporting themselves again as a Republic.
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CL500
However, if you can find a better price in Arizona then it might be worth it. I saved a good chunk by buying out-of-state. And it was no hassle at all (other than the distance); the dealership just incorporated my local sales tax and handled all the registration for me. Internet pricing makes it a lot easier to get a good deal, especially if you live in a place with only one MB dealership (like I do).
And California has state income tax and high overall cost of living. I can't imagine living out there. Sales tax where I live is 9.25%, but housing is cheap and there's no state income tax. Of course I don't have ocean views, but the mountains aren't bad.
And California has state income tax and high overall cost of living. I can't imagine living out there. Sales tax where I live is 9.25%, but housing is cheap and there's no state income tax. Of course I don't have ocean views, but the mountains aren't bad.
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Yes, the cost of living is high here. But so are the wages. It's one of the highest paying regions in the country. That does level things out.
Plus the 9.25% is LA County. Go to Fresno, or up north in Humboldt County and the taxes and cost of living are a lot less. But the wages are less, too. Or Oregon where there is no sales tax. But wages are lower there, too.
LA is like NYC. Or London, or Paris, or Rome. High cost of living but high wages. And if you don't like the cost and housing issues of NYC, then you can live upstate where it's much cheaper. Same here, live in Riverside County instead where it's cheaper.
Sure, the sunshine and beaches here are nice amenities. And you pay for them. Just like you pay to drive a MB. We all could easily drive Honda Civics for transportation, but we pay the higher costs and depreciation of the MB because we want those amenities. We're in a heavily capitalist country where even fresh air has a price.
We choose where we live whether it's TX, TN, NY or CA. And each place has its downsides. It's all just a question of one's priorities.
p.s., the budget crisis that CA finds itself in is due primarily to the balanced budget law and Prop 13. These crazy propositions are attempts to reduce taxes without raising revenue. And so you have a budget deficit. Remember that the CA budget is bigger than most developed country's budgets of the world.
Last edited by 220S; Dec 30, 2009 at 11:25 PM.
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2010 E550
Here is the link regarding the tax deduction
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...217256,00.html
got simliar deal as Jumper on mine.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...217256,00.html
got simliar deal as Jumper on mine.
Last edited by bugatti; Dec 31, 2009 at 02:15 AM.
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From: Los Angeles
E350 Sedan, P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama roof
Hey, this may sound dumb (first time buying by myself), I'm from California where the statewide sales tax is 8.25% and around here I believe is 9.25%. Would it be smart if I purchased my car in Arizona where I believe the sales tax is 5.6%? This is assuming I can get the same deal at the dealership in Arizona.
California sales tax total @ 9.25% = $4,825
Arizona sales tax total @ 5.6% = $2,800
Total Saving: $2,025
(I just punched in $50,000 for the value of the car)
California sales tax total @ 9.25% = $4,825
Arizona sales tax total @ 5.6% = $2,800
Total Saving: $2,025
(I just punched in $50,000 for the value of the car)
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E350 Sedan, P2, Driver's Assist, Panorama roof
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2010 E350 Sport 4 Matic, 2008 Lexus GX470, 03 SVT Cobra, 08 F250 Twin Turbo Diesel, 07' Lexus ES350
2010 pricing...you asked for it
Ok, you asked for the whole package so here you go:
2010 E350 Sport 4 Matic P2 package, AMG Wheel Package
MSRP- $59,075
Gross Capitalized Cost: $51,472
Capitalized Cost Reduction: $814.55
Registration Fee: $399.00
Documentary Fee: $249.00
Title Fee: $6.50
Tire Management Fee: $7.50
Total Out of Pocket: $2,300.00
Lease Terms: 39 Months, $749/month 15k miles/year
All Taxes and Fee's are incorporated into monthly payment. This better?
2010 E350 Sport 4 Matic P2 package, AMG Wheel Package
MSRP- $59,075
Gross Capitalized Cost: $51,472
Capitalized Cost Reduction: $814.55
Registration Fee: $399.00
Documentary Fee: $249.00
Title Fee: $6.50
Tire Management Fee: $7.50
Total Out of Pocket: $2,300.00
Lease Terms: 39 Months, $749/month 15k miles/year
All Taxes and Fee's are incorporated into monthly payment. This better?
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From: New York City
2013 E-350 4matic
I got mine in NY MB of Manhattan
2010 E350 P1, sport package and rear spoiler.
List Price was 55985.00
I got loyalty cash and EAB cash total cost now 49585.00
10K miles/year 39months.
1985.00 total out of pocket cash due at signing.
599.00 per month taxes included.
Free scheduled maintenance for the length of the lease.
I think I got a pretty good deal. I love this car.
2010 E350 P1, sport package and rear spoiler.
List Price was 55985.00
I got loyalty cash and EAB cash total cost now 49585.00
10K miles/year 39months.
1985.00 total out of pocket cash due at signing.
599.00 per month taxes included.
Free scheduled maintenance for the length of the lease.
I think I got a pretty good deal. I love this car.
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I got mine in NY MB of Manhattan
2010 E350 P1, sport package and rear spoiler.
List Price was 55985.00
I got loyalty cash and EAB cash total cost now 49585.00
10K miles/year 39months.
1985.00 total out of pocket cash due at signing.
599.00 per month taxes included.
Free scheduled maintenance for the length of the lease.
I think I got a pretty good deal. I love this car.
2010 E350 P1, sport package and rear spoiler.
List Price was 55985.00
I got loyalty cash and EAB cash total cost now 49585.00
10K miles/year 39months.
1985.00 total out of pocket cash due at signing.
599.00 per month taxes included.
Free scheduled maintenance for the length of the lease.
I think I got a pretty good deal. I love this car.
One of the best I've heard so far.
