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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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I have due for next car in June. I always do cross make shopping. So my last two winners were E class. Did situation change? What other cars to look now? I think to check out Jaguar FX and BMW 535. Any other suggestions? Why have you selected W212? Did you look in other cars, or made slection just being Benz fan?
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Old Apr 25, 2010 | 11:48 PM
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I have due for next car in June. I always do cross make shopping. So my last two winners were E class. Did situation change? What other cars to look now? I think to check out Jaguar FX and BMW 535. Any other suggestions? Why have you selected W212? Did you look in other cars, or made slection just being Benz fan?
I wanted the Jag XF - damn sexy car, but I need 4 wheel drive on my main vehicle, as I have to face the Midwest snows.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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I was a BMW driver since 1995 and my family and I had E21, E30, E34, E38"Loved that car", E39. I saw the F10 pictures, my wife and I test drove E92, A6/A5 and we both agreed to get the w212, it's just a great car IMO. Good luck!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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I recently had a W212 for a week as a rental car and had one last summer for a week rental in Europe as well.

This is a terrific car. No faults from what I could tell.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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It's interesting how current MBs, Audis, BMWs, and Jags are getting so similar in technology, driving characteristics, price, and amenities. They're all vying for the same consumer market. In the end it's getting more subjective (e.g., design) than about any real major differences, imho.

I checked out the M5, XKR, S6, and the E63. All were great rides. But none were perfect, so it wasn't an easy choice.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Checked out all new 2011 Infiniti M37/56,
Just drove a totally loaded M56 sport. Well was I surprised. I thought the sport would have a harsh ride and uncomfortable seats. Wrong on both accounts. Ride was great and had no complaints about seats. Gorgeous car. I still think Infiniti's style looks like a blend of Porsche and Maserati, which I really like. Sales manager is driving an M37S and while talking to him this weekend he said he was getting 22+ mpg with mostly city driving. Not bad

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Hi Mb4z,, I do check out the 2011 M37 before I decided to replace my 2007 E60 530i with a E350 4matic. On paper, the M37 was great, lots of power and lots of high-tech,,, BUT, you must see one physically !!! The interior was way over-designed,,, too many curve, also feel small compare to W212... I also checked out the XF as well, more feel like for a 60 years old than for a 45.. BTW, i also attended the F10 launch event, seat in a 535i, a BIG Car but you will surprise the inside space is no bigger than the E60.

If you interest on W212,, make sure you request a night time drive and enjoy those fancy lighting... also the back seat under the panoramic roof.. Being at Toronto, I need 4 wheel drive... I still believe the BMW will be better as a driver's car..

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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Hi Mb4z,, I do check out the 2011 M37 before I decided to replace my 2007 E60 530i with a E350 4matic. On paper, the M37 was great, lots of power and lots of high-tech,,, BUT, you must see one physically !!! The interior was way over-designed,,, too many curve, also feel small compare to W212... I also checked out the XF as well, more feel like for a 60 years old than for a 45.. BTW, i also attended the F10 launch event, seat in a 535i, a BIG Car but you will surprise the inside space is no bigger than the E60.

If you interest on W212,, make sure you request a night time drive and enjoy those fancy lighting... also the back seat under the panoramic roof.. Being at Toronto, I need 4 wheel drive... I still believe the BMW will be better as a driver's car..
How'd the F10 look to you in person? Did the lines, detailing, or anything stand out? Also, how did the interiors materials feel to you, in comparison with the E?

It's just a weird thing, the Luxury Mid-Size market, although others try, seems the top choices are always down to M-B or BMW. Maybe it's partly just a subconscious "brand" thing that none of us would ever like to admit, or acknowledge.

I've liked the XF for a while, and think, all in all, it is the most agreeably well done design in the segment right now, and the interior materials are in a different league IMO than the E-Classes, in regards to elegance and refinement (can't compare with the F10 as I've yet to see it in person). However, maybe it's my subconscious which has found Jaguar so dull and unimportant for so long, but I'm just not turned on by the car anymore enough to buy one. I can stare and appreciate, but to spend my own money on, I'd still go M-B or BMW, for whatever reasons. Of course, not to mention, the driving, solidity, quality, and safety aspects all go heavily to M-B's favor to me, over Jaguar.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 220S
fwiw, here's a review of the M56 and the E550: http://www.insideline.com/mercedes-b...ison-test.html
Interesting, haven't seen the new M yet I don't think. Definitely a nice car, very curvy and definitely a more "sexy/sexual" vibe of a design than the stout E-Class. It does look a bit too much like a "Crossover/SUV" in a way to me for some reason, and I don't think the more unique overall shape will age as well as the Benzes classic 3-Box.

The M stacks up well in the pics, though it's a totally different look through and through. The damn rear of the W212 is just so upsetting, as I've come to peace with the other angles, and even really like some, just that damn rear.... And the more I see that butt on the road, the less prestigious (never was), and more vomit inducing it is.

BTW, I wonder why they didn't use a Sport E-Class, as most all on the road are.



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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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The Benz really takes the cake in these two angles:


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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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the Japanese build great cars but just don't get the emotional part of the auto like the Germans do. This is why people pay $$$$ more for Mercedes IMO.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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5 months ago I was in the market for a new car and I have narrow my choice to these two. I have looked at and tested both cars number of times. Each of them has their strengths and each of them has their weaknesses.
However, the M excels in the reliability dept.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/autos/0910/gallery.consumer_reports_most_rel- iable_cars/4.html

C&D has also done a short take on the M37.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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I will said the M37 or Infiniti is good reliable car.. I have 3 friends with the 2007-8 model and all OK so far... To select between Benz, BMW, Jaguar or a Infiniti is really a personal preference.. As a driver/owner of a BMW E60 and spent 6 months of research, test drive/physical seat inside and review of 2010 XF, W212, E Coupe, GS350AWD, M37, M37x and F10 535i.......etc.. I select E350... Also, if you going to own the car and plan to trade in within 5-6 years,, Benz will give u a better return in Canada...

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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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The 5.5-liter V8 in the 2010 Mercedes-Benz E550 is ridiculously smooth in its delivery... ...the throttle map [in the M] isn't quite sorted out to our liking.
I had a similar opinion when I test drove the last M. There was plenty of power, but the transmission was all over the place. It would downshift rather dramatically whenever the freeway featured any kind of upward jaunt. I actually test drove a C-Class right after the M and the difference was evident even in that car. The C was so smooth - shifts were barely noticeable and it wasn't overly busy like the M. The E was of course just as smooth. There were a few other things in the M I couldn't get past, but overall I thought it was a very good car.

Aside: it seems like half the tests I see of the E-Class has it in that not-so-flattering gold color. What's that all about?
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Design is an important part of some people's lives.
So, it means more to some people than others. Unfortunately for me, a particular car could be the most technologically advanced in the world and drive like no other, but if I think it's a poor design then I don't want it. The entire car must agree with me.

The 2010 E Class has some good design aspects but overall it just doesn't work for me. I personally can't live with those tail lights and rear end, side molding under strange angle and headlights should have been a one piece too!

I need my car design to be enjoyable for me and look great at all times, at all angles. If you love the way your car looks, you're going to be a happy camper, as it will surely please you in about every objective way as well.



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Well said and agreed ^^.

The sacrifices we make for design.
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Don't like the taillights,Im sticking with the E350.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 05:53 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, butt: F10>>>>W212. Face: W212>F10.

Side profile will come down to whether one likes swoopy, curvy, clean designs, or tougher, busy, sharp/angular designs.

.... Or let's be real here, whether one likes the M-B badge or BMW badge.
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