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Old May 7, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Have you tried Korean food? I mean in Korea? Fantastic stuff!
One of the few places in the world I have not been to. I am also not big on any oriental food.
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Old May 8, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ttoE550
Have you tried Korean food? I mean in Korea? Fantastic stuff!
+1

Los Angeles has the largest Korean population outside of Korea. There are some amazing restaurants in Koreatown.

Surawon (for the best seolleongtang, period.)

ChoSun Galbee is also awesome: http://www.chosungalbee.com/

There are a ton of spots for the real thing in K-Town. Lots of small soondae shops. It's the next best thing to being in Korea.

If you blindfolded somebody and dropped them off here, they'd assume they were in Korea (except that it's not humid here... )
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Old May 8, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sosh
Actually breathing that stuff is not as bad for you as Korean food!!
What have polyester fibers got to do with Korean food ????

Given that the E Class for SE Asia is produced in either Malaysia or China, there is a high probability that certain parts of the car (i.e. the glove box lining) may have a local flavor !!!

In any event, anyone who is suggesting that this issue is a "serious problem" is really stretching a minor irritant into a major non-event.
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Old May 8, 2010 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 220S
Los Angeles has the largest Korean population outside of Korea. There are some amazing restaurants in Koreatown.

Surawon (for the best seolleongtang, period.)
Do they serve dog meat too in LA?

Originally Posted by DerekACS
Given that the E Class for SE Asia is produced in either Malaysia or China, there is a high probability that certain parts of the car (i.e. the glove box lining) may have a local flavor !!!
I didn't know Korean MBs were not coming from Germany. Parts like the glovebox are made of recyclable material and may well have a local flavour.
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Old May 8, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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I just went out and checked my glovebox for the "problem." Appears that the mysterious dust IS present, and like a charged particle, is attracted to static charged material, e.g. the clear plastic sleeve for my insurance card. However, I don't see any airborne fibers within the compartment.

In my opinion, the lining for the glove box is of the same quality you would find in any velvet lined jewelry box. If one were to inspect those boxes I'm sure you would identify the same kind of issue. In any event, how this can be deemed a serious issue is beyond me!
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Old May 8, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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I was at Toyota dealer recently and sat in a 2010 Avalon Limited. Opened the console box and all kinds of dust was collected along the edge and inside the box.
All things considered, who knows where parts are coming from these days for all kinds of cars. BMW does not even make its own engines and transmissions.
I checked my car-no problems in glove box, console box, box under seats, etc.

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Old May 8, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 220S
This came up once before by another person, also from S Korea....Anyway, it's a nuisance but to imply that it's a dangerous "chemical dust" is stretching things a bit, imho. It's simply polyester fibers. I'm guessing with a good vacuuming, you can get rid of them and the glove box lining material will eventually stop shedding over time.
I wonder if 220S would share with us a reference confirming that the material is
polyester? and that it will vacuum off?...and that it will stop shedding?
In absence of such reference I would consider his post as (at best) pure conjecture,
no less of a stretch than the OP's "implication"...
I don't have a lot of this fibrous stuff in my 212 E63, but I do have some and yes,

I WOULD like to know what it is. I had a lot more of it in the C207 E550 Coupe.


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Old May 9, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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HEy 220S

Are you Koreano?
Originally Posted by 220S
+1

Los Angeles has the largest Korean population outside of Korea. There are some amazing restaurants in Koreatown.

Surawon (for the best seolleongtang, period.)

ChoSun Galbee is also awesome: http://www.chosungalbee.com/

There are a ton of spots for the real thing in K-Town. Lots of small soondae shops. It's the next best thing to being in Korea.

If you blindfolded somebody and dropped them off here, they'd assume they were in Korea (except that it's not humid here... )
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Old May 9, 2010 | 01:45 AM
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Was this part of the P2 package because I checked and didn't see it.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 220S
It's actually Canadian pubic hair. I just had it analyzed by a lab.

There. Are. You. Happy. Now.

I can't even say I am disappointed by this irrelevant crudeness - that would
imply I expected better..... 220 S, Why not respond constructively and with the
decorum befitting a knowledgeable senior member that you seem to be...

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Old May 9, 2010 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 220S
It's not exactly a "black chemical dust" it's polyester fibers.

What's with all these first time Korean posters all of a sudden? Like Chicken Little. OMG, the sky is falling. Are you BMW F10 salespeople?
I think 220S is crossing the line here with his(hers) hurtful personal / ethnic comments,
and his implication as to the motives of the OP begs the question whether 220S in not him(her)self an MB troll?
Whats with always dismissing any posts vaguely critical of MB? and with the
air of authority not really in keeping with reality. How about less venom and
and more respect!

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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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[quote=220S;4066186]It's actually Canadian pubic hair. I just had it analyzed by a lab.

There. Are. You. Happy. Now.[/quote

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What gender was it?




PS Lighten up MBStar. Read what he actually wrote in all his postings on this subject. There is nothing racist or derogatory in what he says and we can use a little humour here once in a while.

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Old May 9, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Back to the W124 had these fibers. A typical Mercedes-fiber. (And Porsche. Both come from Stuttgart. The same supplier?)
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Old May 9, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by taylor210
HEy 220S

Are you Koreano?
No, but many friends are Koreano. They teach me about all the food and everything. I also used to live in Koreatown; 7th street just off Wilshire (Wilshire Center is the main part of Koreatown in LA.)

Lots of clubs and shopping. And those late night hipster coffee and cake places; great places to hang.

And places for kkultarae. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK10V...eature=related
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Old May 9, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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This thread including the original post is just rediculous.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by petee1997
..... Lighten up MBStar. Read what he actually wrote in all his postings on this subject. There is nothing racist or derogatory in what he says and we can use a little humour here once in a while.
And whats with you always telling me to relax? I don't find any of
220S's national origin remarks humorous or relevant to the thread.
Inappropriate - yes, ridiculling(ous) - yes, humorus - not at all. Humor we can use,
bigotry (suggest you check what this really means) we don't. So stop being
such a patsy and go apoplogise for something on another thread!(how do you like this type of humor?)

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Old May 9, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by El Cid
I was at Toyota dealer recently and sat in a 2010 Avalon Limited. Opened the console box and all kinds of dust was collected along the edge and inside the box.
All things considered, who knows where parts are coming from these days for all kinds of cars. BMW does not even make its own engines and transmissions.
I checked my car-no problems in glove box, console box, box under seats, etc.
I apologise for high jacking this thread but I had to correct the above post. BMW does make their own engines. Their middle name is Motor.
The Munich Factory:
A Special Tradition.
Engines from Munich have made BMW famous right from the start. Today the Munich engine production, with its 1,800 associates produces around 300,000 engines in more than 350 variants per year.

The spectrum of individual customer wishes ranges from six, eight and twelve-cylinder engines through the eight-cylinder diesel engines and up to the high-performance engines for BMW M vehicles.

High-tech without Compromises.

The flexible production is characterised by the use of most advanced production technologies. By this means the core parts of the V8 and the special engines - crankcases, cylinder heads, crankshafts and additional connecting rod and camshafts for special engines - are manufactured on flexible, linked machining centres with utmost precision. High-speed cutting (HSC) machines process the core parts for the highperformance engines.
The engine production has three different assembly lines: one each for the six and eight-cylinder engines plus one for the special engines. On this latter line, highly flexible processes produce straight six and V10 cylinder highperformance engines for the M3, M5 and the M6 as well as twelve-cylinder engines for the 760i and Rolls-Royce.


Top Quality.

Engines are more than just the sum of their parts. The engine production is characterised by significantly high assembly quality.
In engine assembly, all assembly steps are checked for quality of fitting and functioning, immediately after the engine parts are fitted. This is when friction

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After assembly all the engines run through a one hundred percent function test. Special engines are tested in the hot test, six and eight-cylinder engines in the cold test: without the use of fuel and coolant, all the important engine parameters are measured, analysed and documented in these ecologically-sound tests.
The continuous process of improvement - including audits (safety standard certified: quality and environment) and selfassessment (EFQM) - also means that the customer receives an engine for his BMW that does justice to the high demands on dynamics, smooth running, torque and quality.


Associates.

Remarkable people together, create fascinating products: 1,800 highly qualified associates produce around 1,250 engines per day

Prototype construction.

The engine production in Munich produces prototypes in cooperation with the engine development: already in the run-up, this prototype construction contributes towards the high quality of the later series production. In the same way, assembly sequences are initially tried out in the pilot assembly and via virtual simulation. This guarantees safe processes in series production.


IMOLA.

With IMOLA, the Integrated Motor Logistics Area, the flows of incoming and outgoing engines are optimally coordinated for the worldwide production network of BMW vehicle plants. The engines, which, for example, have been manufactured in Munich and are going to be installed in vehicles in Spartanburg/USA, run through the IMOLA. In reaction to this, engines coming from Steyr and Hams Hall destined for the Munich plant first pass through the IMOLA and are then forwarded directly to the Munich vehicle assembly. The six, eight-cylinder (petrol and diesel), ten and twelve-cylinder engines from the Munich engine production are buffered in the IMOLA prior to being transported to the vehicle plants in Dingolfing, Regensburg, Leipzig, Spartanburg and Goodwood as well as to Wackersdorf (shipping centre of the BMW Group for so-called CKD production worldwide). The shipments of engines are put together as required and transported to the respective plants.


http://www.bmw-plant-munich.com/lowb.../en/index.html

BMW 4 cylinder engines are manufactured at Hams Hall. BMW owns that Factory.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ThompasMB
Back to the W124 had these fibers. A typical Mercedes-fiber. (And Porsche. Both come from Stuttgart. The same supplier?)
So it's German pubs???
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MBStar
And whats with you always telling me to relax? I don't find any of
220S's national origin remarks humorous or relevant to the thread.
Inappropriate - yes, ridiculling(ous) - yes, humorus - not at all. Humor we can use,
bigotry (suggest you check what this really means) we don't. So stop being
such a patsy and go apoplogise for something on another thread!(how do you like this type of humor?)


I guess you don't get out much. You are a very insecure little man. You must have been the kid that everybody made fun of in school and you've never been able to shake the complex. Now grow up or go find a different sandbox.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by petee1997
I guess you...are a very insecure little man...go find a different sandbox.
Oh, I guess you did not like this kind of humor either...ad personam comments
are never a good idea. And here you are: a big, brave man with robust
personality reduced to a smack out with the "little boy"...LOL
Look man, I was only providing some humor we "can all use from time to time"..nothing personal.

Why not relax and get some real info on the fibers in the glove box.
I just went to a big MB dealer in Frankfurt and checked out the glove boxes of a dozen or more W212s
and no fibers but clearly some black "dust" which stains the fingertips a bit.

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Old May 10, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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I have to say the fibers are making their way into the pass compartment. I could see them on my dash as today was a crystal clear day.

I have black/black ash and could see the junk on the trim. I ran my finger (oops, time to detail) and yes it has the 2-3mm fibers.

Don't know that it this is dangerous or not--synthetic crap inhaled generally isn't good, but i'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm going to vaccuum out the glove box and swiffer things down.
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