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Old 04-21-2011, 10:40 PM
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no more AIRMATIC for the E550, no luxury version of E550
According to your thread Airmatic and Luxury version is only gone for the E550 4matic.
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That's weird, haven't heard anything about that. Not sure if it's true as pics of the '12 W212 E63 have surfaced and the doors wood paneling are the same.
I think its just available design, right now we can only have "Burl Walnut Wood Trim" and "Black Ash Wood Trim" there might be more choices i.e. Designo options for trim.
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Dealer ordering guide doesn't even mention a 2WD E550 so I assume that there will only be an E550 4M.
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Dealer ordering guide doesn't even mention a 2WD E550 so I assume that there will only be an E550 4M.
Oh... yea... sure... Thanks for the info though.
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WTF? So no more 2WD E550 with Airmatic?!

HOW damn lazy and careless can they be with the W212.

It reminds me of the early Ford days: "You can have any color you want, as long as it's black".

They just want to maximize profits on this car, careless as to all of them being forced to look, and be optioned exactly alike. This in the long run will just diminish the ownership and buying excitement of the car, hurting the prestige and resale in the long run.

And again, BMW's F10 offers plenty of variations, both aesthetic, and otherwise. Go to a BMW Dealer and realistically or pretend to Option out an F10, then do the same with a W212. You'll realize immediately which brand is catering to enthusiasts more, and which is a funner and more exciting car to build. Even the interior color variations on the F10 beat out the interior combo's on the 212.
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Just picked up my 2011 e350 coupe today.. as you can see the new 2011 builds already have the changed led lights.. no more hockey lights. I asked my dealer if i should order the new 2012 for the new engine and he says no need to. He says the new 2012 will have more power but it is going to be the same engine but with just a ecu tune up. He was saying the new engine will come when the E has a complete redesign in a few years. The C will have the new engine since they got the new redesign this year... as for the E, will have to wait since the redesign was jus a few years ago... so i guess if he is right, we should be able to just get a ecu tune up and be ok...as for my exterior, since the lights are already changed i guess i dont have to worry bout the exterior looks. more picz coming soon.. i cant seem to upload the pic.. sorry im new at this but i did upload a few picz on my thread on the c207 forum under 2011 e350 coupe obsidian black
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Originally Posted by Fatalplaya
Just picked up my 2011 e350 coupe today.. as you can see the new 2011 builds already have the changed led lights.. no more hockey lights. I asked my dealer if i should order the new 2012 for the new engine and he says no need to. He says the new 2012 will have more power but it is going to be the same engine but with just a ecu tune up. He was saying the new engine will come when the E has a complete redesign in a few years. The C will have the new engine since they got the new redesign this year... as for the E, will have to wait since the redesign was jus a few years ago... so i guess if he is right, we should be able to just get a ecu tune up and be ok...as for my exterior, since the lights are already changed i guess i dont have to worry bout the exterior looks. more picz coming soon.. i cant seem to upload the pic.. sorry im new at this but i did upload a few picz on my thread on the c207 forum under 2011 e350 coupe obsidian black
That's the first I've heard of the 2012's not getting the new engine (just a tune to the current engine)-- I'm not sure I believe it. Anyone else heard this?

Interesting news that the newest 2011s are getting the straight DRLs. Bring on those photos Fatalplaya!

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Originally Posted by voy2k
That's the first I've heard of the 2012's not getting the new engine (just a tune to the current engine)-- I'm not sure I believe it. Anyone else heard this?



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I think your dealer might be trying to make you feel better since you just bought an 11 from them.
Congrats on the new car.

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I think your dealer might be trying to make you feel better since you just bought an 11 from them.
Congrats on the new car.
I think you're right about that RJC.

This isn't directed at Fatalplaya-- he's got a great car that I'm sure he'll be happy with-- but I'm surprised that dealers try to pull stuff like this. Obviously it's going to be verified soon enough that it's a new engine in the 2012s.
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Originally Posted by Fatalplaya
Just picked up my 2011 e350 coupe today.. as you can see the new 2011 builds already have the changed led lights.. no more hockey lights.
I think the sport versions still have Hockey sticks... In the coupes case the sport version would be the E550 coupe. I have yet to see a "Sport" E with straight LEDs.
I am going to pull a KA and predict that the sport models will retain the Hockey sticks (that one is a gamble but I think they will)
I also predict that the new E will have new engines. (that one is a petty safe bet)

Nobody knows for sure, we are all still waiting on "reliable" info.
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Originally Posted by Fatalplaya
...... He says the new 2012 will have more power but it is going to be the same engine but with just a ecu tune up. He was saying the new engine will come when the E has a complete redesign in a few years. The C will have the new engine since they got the new redesign this year... as for the E, will have to wait since the redesign was jus a few years ago......
Well, we'll see it when we see it, but it's just not logical that the new E's alone would be left out of the engine update. It's MB's 125th Anniversary (you know, "we invented the automobile") and the E's are a very popular move-up model in the U.S.A.).

Further: P:59, Consumer Reports April, 2011, issue, they close their synopsis review of the W212 E350 Sedan with the sentence, "A new V6 arrives for 2012." CR is not always correct about things, but they generally research what they put in print reasonably thoroughly. In other words, they're not prone to spreading rumors, at least not in their official test results pages.

Connected folks (I'm not one of them!) here and elsewhere are fairly unanimous in saying the new engines will debut in the 2012 E's.

The only problem may be with the Lean Burn technology found on the new motors in their European iteration. Apparently, our U.S. gasoline is not as clean as the petrol across the pond and poses problems that MB either could not or did not care to address at this time. Therefore, the U.S. versions of the new engines may not provide as much of the increased fuel mileage efficiency originally promised. This, too, has been discussed both here and elsewhere.

Again, we'll see it when we see it.

Best of luck with your new Benz.

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I like the hockey sticks. straight line is boring
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yes......straight lines ARE boring......
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Except on E63's. Then straight lines are fun!
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One would wonder why on 2012 S550, Mercedes is not offering new engine, according to the following link S550 is listed as coming with following HP, seems like they are still offering older V8 and not new TwinTurbo

•S550 / S550 4matic – 382 hp, 391 lb/ft torque


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I was at my dealer yesterday and asked to see the dealer ordering guide.
He checked his computer and found nothing. Is there some way we could get the complete information? I wonder if what we have read is preliminary and has not been completely finalized? Any further information would be really appreciated.
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Originally Posted by janessabroune
Really bad thing about 2012 is that the government knows everything about what will happen, and they are keeping it from you. he was not kidding! In fact, a secret organization, including a secret place, and the Institute for the continuity of authority, has been developed after December 21, 2012 to promote the continued existence of mankind.</span>

lol............wtf?
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lol............wtf?
An impromptu reference to the Mayan's prediction that the world come to an end on Decmber 23, 2012. Let's hope the Mayan's were wrong, or else, there is little point to this thread...lol
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An impromptu reference to the Mayan's prediction that the world come to an end on Decmber 23, 2012. Let's hope the Mayan's were wrong, or else, there is little point to this thread...lol

guess we should all get a sls or something before it all goes down, hehe
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guess we should all get a sls or something before it all goes down, hehe
I like the way you think!!! Get me one too while your at it...
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To update the latest I'm hearing from one of the dealers I'm talking with:

2012 E350 won't be available to order until late June or July, delivery September-November. Exact dates have not been released yet because "final touches with the new motor have not yet been finalized".

Take it with a grain of salt along with everything else until there is "official" word...
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Originally Posted by voy2k
To update the latest I'm hearing from one of the dealers I'm talking with:

2012 E350 won't be available to order until late June or July, delivery September-November. Exact dates have not been released yet because "final touches with the new motor have not yet been finalized".

Take it with a grain of salt along with everything else until there is "official" word...
The copy of the order guide I looked at originally stated that launch was September, but now on the online site I see it has been pushed back to October. This is from the "official" site.
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An impromptu reference to the Mayan's prediction that the world come to an end on Decmber 23, 2012. Let's hope the Mayan's were wrong, or else, there is little point to this thread...lol
Oooooh!! Tje Mayinz arre neber wromg!! Yuo betyerf takw heeeed!?

Dammnne, it’z hardf typeng in one uf thise ffreeking straigght jackeertz.
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The copy of the order guide I looked at originally stated that launch was September, but now on the online site I see it has been pushed back to October. This is from the "official" site.
Which site are you looking at?
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Originally Posted by voy2k
Which site are you looking at?
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