Any E Wagons on here?
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
Any E Wagons on here?
Going to get the wife a new "family mobile."
Getting rid of the e91 (BMW wagon), it's just too damn harsh and with one toddler and another baby on the way it's bye bye BMW for this family--I can't stand the runflats and it's going to get cramped with two little ones and all of the stuff!
Also on the short list is the Q7 (her #1 choice) and the new 2011 Cayenne (my pick, but she thinks it's too flashy
)
So does anyone own a wagon here?
What would you buy? They're all around the same money (similarly optioned) give or take $5K.
I'd love some real life pics of any wagon owners, can't find too much online, other than the airbrushed MB ones--closest dealer had none, but there are a handful within an hours drive.
Thanks.
Getting rid of the e91 (BMW wagon), it's just too damn harsh and with one toddler and another baby on the way it's bye bye BMW for this family--I can't stand the runflats and it's going to get cramped with two little ones and all of the stuff!
Also on the short list is the Q7 (her #1 choice) and the new 2011 Cayenne (my pick, but she thinks it's too flashy
)So does anyone own a wagon here?
What would you buy? They're all around the same money (similarly optioned) give or take $5K.
I'd love some real life pics of any wagon owners, can't find too much online, other than the airbrushed MB ones--closest dealer had none, but there are a handful within an hours drive.
Thanks.
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 908
Likes: 19
From: New Jersey
2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
Going to get the wife a new "family mobile."
Getting rid of the e91 (BMW wagon), it's just too damn harsh and with one toddler and another baby on the way it's bye bye BMW for this family--I can't stand the runflats and it's going to get cramped with two little ones and all of the stuff!
Also on the short list is the Q7 (her #1 choice) and the new 2011 Cayenne (my pick, but she thinks it's too flashy)
So does anyone own a wagon here?
What would you buy? They're all around the same money (similarly optioned) give or take $5K.
I'd love some real life pics of any wagon owners, can't find too much online, other than the airbrushed MB ones--closest dealer had none, but there are a handful within an hours drive.
Thanks.
Getting rid of the e91 (BMW wagon), it's just too damn harsh and with one toddler and another baby on the way it's bye bye BMW for this family--I can't stand the runflats and it's going to get cramped with two little ones and all of the stuff!
Also on the short list is the Q7 (her #1 choice) and the new 2011 Cayenne (my pick, but she thinks it's too flashy
)So does anyone own a wagon here?
What would you buy? They're all around the same money (similarly optioned) give or take $5K.
I'd love some real life pics of any wagon owners, can't find too much online, other than the airbrushed MB ones--closest dealer had none, but there are a handful within an hours drive.
Thanks.
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
thanks for the comments--I worry about the Q7s reliability and I guess they go through tires and brakes pretty fast.
I think the E wagon is really nice and it rides really soft (non-sport model) which is what we want with two sleeping children on road trips.
Wig, what year was your wife's Q7 and what were the problems?
Ned, how does the MDX ride comfort compare to your E?
I've never owned a Japanese car and feel a little funny spending a lot for one, but I'll check it out, it can't hurt!
Thanks again guys.
Anyone else?
I think the E wagon is really nice and it rides really soft (non-sport model) which is what we want with two sleeping children on road trips.
Wig, what year was your wife's Q7 and what were the problems?
Ned, how does the MDX ride comfort compare to your E?
I've never owned a Japanese car and feel a little funny spending a lot for one, but I'll check it out, it can't hurt!
Thanks again guys.
Anyone else?
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 908
Likes: 19
From: New Jersey
2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
thanks for the comments--I worry about the Q7s reliability and I guess they go through tires and brakes pretty fast.
I think the E wagon is really nice and it rides really soft (non-sport model) which is what we want with two sleeping children on road trips.
Wig, what year was your wife's Q7 and what were the problems?
Ned, how does the MDX ride comfort compare to your E?
I've never owned a Japanese car and feel a little funny spending a lot for one, but I'll check it out, it can't hurt!
Thanks again guys.
Anyone else?
I think the E wagon is really nice and it rides really soft (non-sport model) which is what we want with two sleeping children on road trips.
Wig, what year was your wife's Q7 and what were the problems?
Ned, how does the MDX ride comfort compare to your E?
I've never owned a Japanese car and feel a little funny spending a lot for one, but I'll check it out, it can't hurt!
Thanks again guys.
Anyone else?
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
2011 E350 4Matic T-Modell
Relative to what you get, the MDX is a bargain! I got about $5,000 off sticker, so a pretty loaded vehicle was around $43,000. A Mercedes wagon will cost $75,000, a similarly equipped BMW x5, $65,000. I don't think that you can compare the ride of a sedan to an SUV. For what it is, it rides great. It handles well and is very fast and responsive. Great brakes. Comfortable and quiet cabin. A fold down third row seat that is very functional. If you need a family SUV, you would be hard pressed to find anything better at any price. My one and only complaint is the gas mileage which clearly could be better. Regards. Ned.
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 908
Likes: 19
From: New Jersey
2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
Trending Topics
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)
Verdad Gallardo
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
MBWorld God!
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 31,277
Likes: 3,916
From: on my way
2012 CLS63
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,142
Likes: 1,293
From: Southern US
2010 E550, 273 Engine: 2012 S550, 278 Engine
Going to get the wife a new "family mobile."
Getting rid of the e91 (BMW wagon), it's just too damn harsh and with one toddler and another baby on the way it's bye bye BMW for this family--I can't stand the runflats and it's going to get cramped with two little ones and all of the stuff!
Also on the short list is the Q7 (her #1 choice) and the new 2011 Cayenne (my pick, but she thinks it's too flashy)
So does anyone own a wagon here?
What would you buy? They're all around the same money (similarly optioned) give or take $5K.
I'd love some real life pics of any wagon owners, can't find too much online, other than the airbrushed MB ones--closest dealer had none, but there are a handful within an hours drive.
Thanks.
Getting rid of the e91 (BMW wagon), it's just too damn harsh and with one toddler and another baby on the way it's bye bye BMW for this family--I can't stand the runflats and it's going to get cramped with two little ones and all of the stuff!
Also on the short list is the Q7 (her #1 choice) and the new 2011 Cayenne (my pick, but she thinks it's too flashy
)So does anyone own a wagon here?
What would you buy? They're all around the same money (similarly optioned) give or take $5K.
I'd love some real life pics of any wagon owners, can't find too much online, other than the airbrushed MB ones--closest dealer had none, but there are a handful within an hours drive.
Thanks.
I drove a Q7 for a year. If you don't like stiff suspension, like I understand from your experience with the Bimmer, you will need to take Q7 off of your list.
My Q7 felt like driving without springs.
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
Ned, thanks again for your input.
I checked out the MDX online last night and will take a closer look in person and a test drive.
Is there any aftermarket solutions for that front end?
It is fugally(no offense)--but none of these vehicles are real lookers.
Anyway, after looking at the available options it does seem to come pretty well equipped with the pkg you got.
My primary options are leather interior, navi and xenon.
The MDX will be the cheapest to get equipped that way and the MB the most.
The smooth ride of the E wagon is a big factor for us and a big reason why we're getting rid of the bimmer.
I don't want to end up trading in this next car after two years because the depreciation is killer after two years--explain that to my wife
Vsbabolat, can you elaborate on owning the wagon?
Anything you dislike? After owning it would you do it all over again?
Any pics?
Thank you.
Anyone have an opinion?
Thanks
I checked out the MDX online last night and will take a closer look in person and a test drive.
Is there any aftermarket solutions for that front end?
It is fugally(no offense)--but none of these vehicles are real lookers.Anyway, after looking at the available options it does seem to come pretty well equipped with the pkg you got.
My primary options are leather interior, navi and xenon.
The MDX will be the cheapest to get equipped that way and the MB the most.
The smooth ride of the E wagon is a big factor for us and a big reason why we're getting rid of the bimmer.
I don't want to end up trading in this next car after two years because the depreciation is killer after two years--explain that to my wife
Vsbabolat, can you elaborate on owning the wagon?
Anything you dislike? After owning it would you do it all over again?
Any pics?
Thank you.
Anyone have an opinion?
Thanks
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
Really, I didn't think it was too bad, but a test drive is only so good.After reading so much stuff on the Audi boards and else where, I think if I got the Q7 and had problems I'd feel like a real a$$
Thanks Arrie
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 908
Likes: 19
From: New Jersey
2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
Ned, thanks again for your input.
I checked out the MDX online last night and will take a closer look in person and a test drive.
Is there any aftermarket solutions for that front end? It is fugally(no offense)--but none of these vehicles are real lookers.
Anyway, after looking at the available options it does seem to come pretty well equipped with the pkg you got.
My primary options are leather interior, navi and xenon.
The MDX will be the cheapest to get equipped that way and the MB the most.
The smooth ride of the E wagon is a big factor for us and a big reason why we're getting rid of the bimmer.
I don't want to end up trading in this next car after two years because the depreciation is killer after two years--explain that to my wife
Vsbabolat, can you elaborate on owning the wagon?
Anything you dislike? After owning it would you do it all over again?
Any pics?
Thank you.
Anyone have an opinion?
Thanks
I checked out the MDX online last night and will take a closer look in person and a test drive.
Is there any aftermarket solutions for that front end?
It is fugally(no offense)--but none of these vehicles are real lookers.Anyway, after looking at the available options it does seem to come pretty well equipped with the pkg you got.
My primary options are leather interior, navi and xenon.
The MDX will be the cheapest to get equipped that way and the MB the most.
The smooth ride of the E wagon is a big factor for us and a big reason why we're getting rid of the bimmer.
I don't want to end up trading in this next car after two years because the depreciation is killer after two years--explain that to my wife
Vsbabolat, can you elaborate on owning the wagon?
Anything you dislike? After owning it would you do it all over again?
Any pics?
Thank you.
Anyone have an opinion?
Thanks
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 261
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
Two of my daughters bought new MDXs with tech package in the last year. By far the best value for the money. Great power (300hp), nice ride and the best tech money can buy. Both of them have two small children and with the third row they have all the room they need. As far as reliability is concerned, the Germans could only hope to do as well.
If ego is not a priority, there is no better choice out there. Throw the savings in the kids' education fund.
If ego is not a priority, there is no better choice out there. Throw the savings in the kids' education fund.
Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 101
Likes: 1
From: Minnesota
S212 2011 Wagon and Wife's 2014 C350 sedan.
I just purchased an 11, E350 wagon, P2, leather, sport. I love it. I had a Volvo V70R, 2 BMW 545 wagons. I will not by a SUV, only wagons. I tried to by an Audi A6 wagon but with the body and engine change this year I did not want to buy the "old" style.
The new wagon is everything I wanted. I thought the power would be a disapointment but it is perfect for me. List on car was $67,400, paid 61,200 with USAA discount.
The new wagon is everything I wanted. I thought the power would be a disapointment but it is perfect for me. List on car was $67,400, paid 61,200 with USAA discount.
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
So I drove the MDX today and I'm taking it off the list.
Interior looked dated and the looks are not my cup of tea.
It did have some good get up and go and a smooth ride, but the quality just wasn't there for me.
So it looks like it's down to the E-wagon, Q7 and the new comer the new 2011 Touareg.
I was pleasantly surprised by how nice the VW is, the ride is not as soft as the E wagon, but still a softer ride than the bimmer.
Nice tech and interior, looks very fresh and clean, huge Navi.
Totally redesigned for 2011, looks very similar to its Cayenne brother.
So I can get a sweet Touareg for mid $40s discounted and my SA at MB can discount the E wagon about 7k--the E will still come in over $11k more than the Touareg.
Apples and oranges really, but I'm just trying to justify the extra cash for the MB.
The Q7 fits in between the two and really my least favorite of the three.
So the MB is the smoothest, best built IMO, slightly smaller than the VW, but more than $11k extra.
Is $45k a lot to spend on a VW???
Anyone have an opinion?
Interior looked dated and the looks are not my cup of tea.
It did have some good get up and go and a smooth ride, but the quality just wasn't there for me.
So it looks like it's down to the E-wagon, Q7 and the new comer the new 2011 Touareg.
I was pleasantly surprised by how nice the VW is, the ride is not as soft as the E wagon, but still a softer ride than the bimmer.
Nice tech and interior, looks very fresh and clean, huge Navi.
Totally redesigned for 2011, looks very similar to its Cayenne brother.
So I can get a sweet Touareg for mid $40s discounted and my SA at MB can discount the E wagon about 7k--the E will still come in over $11k more than the Touareg.
Apples and oranges really, but I'm just trying to justify the extra cash for the MB.
The Q7 fits in between the two and really my least favorite of the three.
So the MB is the smoothest, best built IMO, slightly smaller than the VW, but more than $11k extra.
Is $45k a lot to spend on a VW???
Anyone have an opinion?
Super Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 507
Likes: 16
'11 E350BTC P2 Leather
Well, don't shoot the messenger...
If you have kids, please do yourself a favor and go drive the Honda Odyssey Touring.
Yes, it's a minivan, and it's also the nicest darn people mover in the world, if you have to move 6+ or even four with lots of stuff.
We have four teenagers, and I am telling you: any sedan or wagon will be a compromise, even medium SUV's will be a mistake.
Maybe you don't know yet, but the STUFF that accompanies a bunch of kids is immense, and you're going to want the room. Promise.
Yes, it's a minivan, and it's also the nicest darn people mover in the world, if you have to move 6+ or even four with lots of stuff.
We have four teenagers, and I am telling you: any sedan or wagon will be a compromise, even medium SUV's will be a mistake.
Maybe you don't know yet, but the STUFF that accompanies a bunch of kids is immense, and you're going to want the room. Promise.
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
You have got to be kidding me!
I will get divorced and leave the country before I put a minivan in the garage I don't care how nice it is
Thanks for sharing the advice, but we're done with two kids.
Last edited by black-clk500; Feb 15, 2011 at 09:39 PM.
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 24
From: Earth
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
I've always said that driving a Minivan is the equivalent to giving up on life.
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 908
Likes: 19
From: New Jersey
2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
So I drove the MDX today and I'm taking it off the list.
Interior looked dated and the looks are not my cup of tea.
It did have some good get up and go and a smooth ride, but the quality just wasn't there for me.
So it looks like it's down to the E-wagon, Q7 and the new comer the new 2011 Touareg.
I was pleasantly surprised by how nice the VW is, the ride is not as soft as the E wagon, but still a softer ride than the bimmer.
Nice tech and interior, looks very fresh and clean, huge Navi.
Totally redesigned for 2011, looks very similar to its Cayenne brother.
So I can get a sweet Touareg for mid $40s discounted and my SA at MB can discount the E wagon about 7k--the E will still come in over $11k more than the Touareg.
Apples and oranges really, but I'm just trying to justify the extra cash for the MB.
The Q7 fits in between the two and really my least favorite of the three.
So the MB is the smoothest, best built IMO, slightly smaller than the VW, but more than $11k extra.
Is $45k a lot to spend on a VW???
Anyone have an opinion?
Interior looked dated and the looks are not my cup of tea.
It did have some good get up and go and a smooth ride, but the quality just wasn't there for me.
So it looks like it's down to the E-wagon, Q7 and the new comer the new 2011 Touareg.
I was pleasantly surprised by how nice the VW is, the ride is not as soft as the E wagon, but still a softer ride than the bimmer.
Nice tech and interior, looks very fresh and clean, huge Navi.
Totally redesigned for 2011, looks very similar to its Cayenne brother.
So I can get a sweet Touareg for mid $40s discounted and my SA at MB can discount the E wagon about 7k--the E will still come in over $11k more than the Touareg.
Apples and oranges really, but I'm just trying to justify the extra cash for the MB.
The Q7 fits in between the two and really my least favorite of the three.
So the MB is the smoothest, best built IMO, slightly smaller than the VW, but more than $11k extra.
Is $45k a lot to spend on a VW???
Anyone have an opinion?
Last edited by ngerstman; Feb 16, 2011 at 10:50 AM.
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
I don't agree with your assessment of the interior at all. Clean, modern and functional. My only complaint would be the sea of plastic faux wood. Otherwise, what's not to like. Ride and handling are great with great technology for a not insane price. VW, good luck with that if you go there. I'm sure that the Mercedes wagon is great, but it is a wagon, not an SUV that will give you comfort in snowy conditions. I like the 4matics sedans but never deluded myself into thinking that I should go 4 wheeling in them. If I didn't need the flexibility of a people moving, safe, go in the snow vehilcle, I would buy a sedan. If I neede something a little more flexible maybe a wagon. I guess that's what makes it a ballgame. Good luck. Ned.
I agree about the ride and handling and ALSO the plasticy faux wood.
I also felt like the seats were cheap feeling and almost LAZY BOYish.
And the dash and front end of the car appeared dated when compared to the Germans; the salesman told me it's getting refreshed in a year or two.
Don't get me wrong, I understand why it's so popular and gets good reviews, it has great size, reliability(from what I hear) and good power and handling.
It just didn't reach out to me and say "buy me"
I didn't feel any emotion toward the vehicle, I know that sounds funny, but if I'm spending a nice chunk of change on something, I gotta at least feel some excitement--otherwise I would already be driving the minivan
I hope you understand that I'm not bashing your opinion or your vehicle because I'm not.
I respect your opinion, otherwise I wouldn't have tested the vehicle
Different strokes for different folks, I guess that's why we all don't chase the same woman!
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
Ipp, thanks for the photos.
How do you like the sports pkg?
I have a F150, so getting through huge snow storms is not a huge issue ifnwe get the E wagon.
Also, my wife's current BMW wagon had no trouble this winter in the snow and we had the worst snow in history this year, so the SUV is not a priority for that purpose, just size for hauling two kids and their stuff.
Anymore comments?
How do you like the sports pkg?
I have a F150, so getting through huge snow storms is not a huge issue ifnwe get the E wagon.
Also, my wife's current BMW wagon had no trouble this winter in the snow and we had the worst snow in history this year, so the SUV is not a priority for that purpose, just size for hauling two kids and their stuff.
Anymore comments?
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 315
Likes: 4
From: Sweden
W166 ML350 BT
I came from a BMW E61 M-Sport, so to me the ride is VERY smooth even with the Sport package. I'd guess that it's softer than the BMW w/o M-Sport aswell... The luggage space is enormous, in fact it has the largest luggage space of any wagon sold on the European market. It has a clever way of folding the rear seats, just pull a handle on the D-pillar and in less than a second the seats are folded.
Any questions just ask...
Any questions just ask...
