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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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My E350 tire pressure decreased. I don't drive the car much during the week. Most of my driving is on weekends. I adjusted the pressure less than 3 months ago and it has now decreased 3-5psi. Is this normal?
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Mine did the same. I guess due to the cooler weather my TPMS warned me of a low pressure tire today. Seems like I put air in the same tire about 5 months ago.
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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NITROGEN.
Nitrogen would be good, but not at mercedes dealer prices.

I have run flats on my bluetec (hate them, but that's what Mercedes gives us) and they can vary by 3 psi if the outside temperature drops by 10 degrees. Since I run them at 35 psi, on a cool day, they start at 32 and that's pretty low. When they heat up, their back at 35 psi. It's very hard to keep these tires at any set pressure on a day to day basis.
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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Nitrogen is a total joke, especially if you pay for it. Remember folks that everytime you fill up from the "air" pump you are getting roughly 78% nitrogen free. As the sales pitch goes nitrogen is a larger molecule so it is less likely to leak out. Well hay then the only thing leaking out must be the oxygen and before long you'll have pure nitrogen in the tire anyway. lol. Just another snake oil so auto dealers and tuners can make more of our money.
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ghstudio
Nitrogen would be good, but not at mercedes dealer prices.

I have run flats on my bluetec (hate them, but that's what Mercedes gives us) and they can vary by 3 psi if the outside temperature drops by 10 degrees. Since I run them at 35 psi, on a cool day, they start at 32 and that's pretty low. When they heat up, their back at 35 psi. It's very hard to keep these tires at any set pressure on a day to day basis.
I have the same, found 36psi cold is a pretty good balance between ride comfort, fuel economy and turn-in. I don't find they have lost more than 1 psi with the temp drop to the high 30s at night.
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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It is not uncommon for a tire to lose some pressure over time. Once the temps drop tire pressure will drop about 1 lb. per 10 degrees IIRC. So if you filled your tires when the ambient temp was 80 and it is now 40, it would be expected that you would lose 4 lbs +/-. Always check the pressure when the tire is cold (or driven less than 1 mile).
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Well if your cars are brand new then you will lose 3-4psi just from the tires breaking in.

Also take this into account:
Every 10 degrees colder is 1 less psi
Most tires lose ~1psi per month from normal driving
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jerome8283
My E350 tire pressure decreased. I don't drive the car much during the week. Most of my driving is on weekends. I adjusted the pressure less than 3 months ago and it has now decreased 3-5psi. Is this normal?
The men are correct,,tires will lose air,,when temp drops and not being driven.Always check when cold,I use a Digital gauge and when all is well the tpms shows all tires heating up and maintianing same pressure all around.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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I have the same, found 36psi cold is a pretty good balance between ride comfort, fuel economy and turn-in. I don't find they have lost more than 1 psi with the temp drop to the high 30s at night.
Isnt 36 cold a little high?? When they heat up they gotta go over 40 and that makes a bumpy ride.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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It is not uncommon for a tire to lose some pressure over time. Once the temps drop tire pressure will drop about 1 lb. per 10 degrees IIRC. So if you filled your tires when the ambient temp was 80 and it is now 40, it would be expected that you would lose 4 lbs +/-. Always check the pressure when the tire is cold (or driven less than 1 mile).
Very true.

Took delivery August 1. Temp. aprox. 80. Tire pressure all around was 40 driven - 37 cold (thanks a lot for my sore kidneys, dealer). Immediately adjusted pressures to 34 cold all around. A few pounds makes a noticable difference in the ride with these low profile UHP tires, it seems.

Temp. dropped to the 40's a week or so ago and the TPMS gave a warning. Had 30-31 cold. Re-filled back up to 34 cold.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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Isnt 36 cold a little high?? When they heat up they gotta go over 40 and that makes a bumpy ride.
35 front/36 rear (cold) is the recommended tire pressure on bluetec....on the gas filler door.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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35 front/36 rear (cold) is the recommended tire pressure on bluetec....on the gas filler door.
Ahh very cool,,mine is 31 32 Hey whats ur mileage per gallon with that diesel?

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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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Isnt 36 cold a little high?? When they heat up they gotta go over 40 and that makes a bumpy ride.
No, seems just fine and the turn-in is pretty nice. I've not seen them climb above 40. I'm using one of Joe's Racing gauges accurate to 1/10th pound, and they are all pretty on the money for the past 2 weeks, temps have dropped too.

Fuel economy has been overall around 35-36.
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ImInPA
It is not uncommon for a tire to lose some pressure over time. Once the temps drop tire pressure will drop about 1 lb. per 10 degrees IIRC. So if you filled your tires when the ambient temp was 80 and it is now 40, it would be expected that you would lose 4 lbs +/-. Always check the pressure when the tire is cold (or driven less than 1 mile).
Correct. In addition, a perfectly fine tire will lose about one psi per month as well, so the months are three psi in addition to the temperature losses. That is assuming that the tires were properly filled to begin with.

Nitrogen is a great scam to suck money out of your wallet and to replace it with air.

Think of it this way. Your tires currently contain 70% nitrogen now. Unless they suck all the air out of your tires in a vacuum, there is remaining air inyour tires so they are really only adding nitrogen to the existing air in your tires.

This is all academic anyway since the advantages of nitrogen are only theoretical and make no difference in the real world. You still have to check your tire pressure every month and you will still need to add pressure periodically.
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Nitrogen is a great scam to suck money out of your wallet and to replace it with air.
A wonderful, and true, comment.
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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No, seems just fine and the turn-in is pretty nice. I've not seen them climb above 40. I'm using one of Joe's Racing gauges accurate to 1/10th pound, and they are all pretty on the money for the past 2 weeks, temps have dropped too.

Fuel economy has been overall around 35-36.
Wow thats great
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 11:49 PM
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With 1700 miles on my car, since new I have averaged 22 mph and I'm getting 26 mpg. Obviously on the interstate, I get far better mileage, but most of my driving is around town. With my previous 2011 Infiniti M35, I averaged 17.5 mpg so the MB is far more thrifty.
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