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Mar 14, 2012 | 10:25 PM

MinnBobber

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From: St. Paul, MN

2013 E350 Wagon, prev 2005 ML 500 SE

invoive pricing site?

Hi,
what is a site for finding accurate E350 invoice prices on vehicle and options?

I have searched here and TrueCar only gives me MSRP and what others paid.

I found them easily last week but cannot today--it's driving me crazy.

USAA gives me MSRP and target price but I need invoice.

Thanks

Mar 14, 2012 | 11:08 PM

dfordham

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2014 E350, 2012 SL550

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Originally Posted by MinnBobber

Try Edmunds.

As a rule of thumb, invoice is 7% off MSRP.

Regards,
Don

Mar 15, 2012 | 01:07 AM

MinnBobber

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thanks Don

Edmunds works great.
Dealer said invoice is 6% off and I thought it was 7%.
I am expecting trouble on the "ad fee".
Can dealers opt in/out of that?

Mar 15, 2012 | 08:05 AM

hyperion667

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so how much do you guys suppose is the average take for a salesman?

my guy was trying to tell me it's only a couple of hundred (3 or 4), per sale??
is that true or complete

Mar 15, 2012 | 08:46 AM

ghstudio

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Originally Posted by hyperion667

so how much do you guys suppose is the average take for a salesman?

my guy was trying to tell me it's only a couple of hundred (3 or 4), per sale??
is that true or complete

edmunds, kbb are good sources. All dealers pay the advertising fee and freight. Dealers vary on their "administrative fees" often preprinted into the contract, but negotiable never the less. They also vary on lease acquistion fees and purchase finance charges.

Salesmen usually have a minimum commission for selling any car, often $250 but then if they sell it for more, they get more. As a rule of thumb, I try to negotiate a price $500 over "invoice" without including any rebates, conquest money, mercedes finance cash, MB discount, USAA discount or whatever applies to me. After we have reached our agreed to price, then we add on (or actually subtract) the other discounts.

The "typical" prices shown on the web sometimes include manufacturers discounts and sometimes they don't......so don't rely on them.

Mar 16, 2012 | 02:32 PM

BenzMan369

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From: Suburban Phila., PA

2012 E350 Coupe

Quote:

Originally Posted by MinnBobber

Edmunds works great.
Dealer said invoice is 6% off and I thought it was 7%.
I am expecting trouble on the "ad fee".
Can dealers opt in/out of that?

The Invoice Price for these particular vehicles is -7%. The 1% dealer advertising/marketing fee is fully negotiable (I did). The maximum price you should pay is:

MSRP -Shipping Charge -7% +Shipping Charge added back = Your Net Cost +Tax and tags. Watch out for padded closing costs, dealer prep fees, etc. Depending on the state, a couple of small additional charges to be in compliance with the law may be reasonable, e.g. Documentation fee. Emphasis on small.

If you can do better than that, go for it! If a dealer won't cooperate, I would find another one who will.

The dealer is still making a decent profit. There are holdbacks and dealer factory incentives that give the dealer added room to maneuver on price.

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