Service B?
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Service B?
Have a 2011 E350 with 13500 miles. Coming up on Service B. I am taking to the dealer to have it done. My dealer advised that service B AND a brake fluid change is due. Bought the car in September 2010. Does Service B include tire rotation and changing cabin filter? Is brake fluid change in addition to Service B and necessary for a 2 year old car with 13500 miles?
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ABS, electronic traction control, stability control etc all use or are part of the braking system including the obvious, stopping the car. Do I think your brake fluid is contaminated already? Probably not. I am however a proponent of changing the brake fluid. If your vehicle develops a problem in one of those systems in the next two years while you are covered by the original warranty what do you think MB is going to say when you did not follow their required maintenance agenda?
The cabin filter may or may not require replacement. Where do you drive? Dirty environment, is it damp? Growing mold? You could probably decline although it is a required procedure of the B service. I think it could cause a warranty issue.
You could get an anonymous price on replacing a cabin filter from the service department and then try deducting it from the B service rather than asking how much is the B service without the cabin filter. It is relatively easy to change. The instructions are on this forum.
Shop some other dealers and get the lowest price on a B service and have your dealer match it is another idea.
I do business with a great dealership that has never said no to me with any issue so I let them do the entire B service. I asked them to return the old cabin filter. It could have served on for awhile.
The cabin filter may or may not require replacement. Where do you drive? Dirty environment, is it damp? Growing mold? You could probably decline although it is a required procedure of the B service. I think it could cause a warranty issue.
You could get an anonymous price on replacing a cabin filter from the service department and then try deducting it from the B service rather than asking how much is the B service without the cabin filter. It is relatively easy to change. The instructions are on this forum.
Shop some other dealers and get the lowest price on a B service and have your dealer match it is another idea.
I do business with a great dealership that has never said no to me with any issue so I let them do the entire B service. I asked them to return the old cabin filter. It could have served on for awhile.
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Brake fluid flush and change, cabin filter, oil and filter are part of the required B service and all should be included in the price.
Konigstiger has posted the official MB list of required and recommended services under one of the stickys at the top of the thread list.
Konigstiger has posted the official MB list of required and recommended services under one of the stickys at the top of the thread list.
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When I took my ML in for B service this summer, they did not include brake fluid change in the $400+ cost for the B service. It was an extra $120 for that to be done!
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My b service did not include the BFF. However the enticement for the prepaid maintenance, an A,B and another A, threw in a brake fluid flush. All for about 700 bucks. Not sure if it was an overall good deal but the car has cost me nothing in the two years I have owned it. Only about 26k.
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What I'm wondering, is *technically speaking*, is Service B *REQUIRED* on a car, or can you *technically* do just, say, an oil change, and be considered "safe" in terms of them not docking you when you Lease return, etc.?
Not looking for opinions on the matter, i.e what one shouldn't or should do, but I'm curious as to how technical the Services are, since much of what they charge you for are inspections and such. You can kind of get a good idea regarding the technical requirements VS the "recommendations" as to how much of the Service B for example, can be mostly means for profit generating (or not, for that matter).
Not looking for opinions on the matter, i.e what one shouldn't or should do, but I'm curious as to how technical the Services are, since much of what they charge you for are inspections and such. You can kind of get a good idea regarding the technical requirements VS the "recommendations" as to how much of the Service B for example, can be mostly means for profit generating (or not, for that matter).
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I honestly wonder if the techs, do in fact, 'inspect' and check all the parts that are
supposed to be checked....that's kind of tedious no?...it just seems TOO easy to just sit there are mark all the things on the 'checklist' while smoking or drinking coffee......
it's a trust issue for me.....another reason to go Indy........easier to watch too, if you're into that kind of thing
supposed to be checked....that's kind of tedious no?...it just seems TOO easy to just sit there are mark all the things on the 'checklist' while smoking or drinking coffee......
it's a trust issue for me.....another reason to go Indy........easier to watch too, if you're into that kind of thing
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As noted above, Konigstiger has posted a sticky on this. However, it is also in your car's Maintenance Manual as to what is required and what is recommended. I have had both the "A" and "B" services as listed, even though I only have 11,000 miles on my 2010. Have the pre-paid maintenance so not really a cost issue and dealer does tire rotations as part of service.
The maintenance reminder in your car will come on a little before every 10,000 miles OR 12 months since last service.
As for brake fluid flush, transmission service, etc. at very low mileages; think of them as insurance. On other hand, I probably will not get the cabin filter replaced at four years since it will only have less than 10,000 miles on it. Have read instructions on replacing it (Thanks Konigstiger), but looks too complicated for me. Have replaced filters on American and Asian cars (real simple) and they show little wear or dirt in my area even with over 20,000+ miles on them.
The maintenance reminder in your car will come on a little before every 10,000 miles OR 12 months since last service.
As for brake fluid flush, transmission service, etc. at very low mileages; think of them as insurance. On other hand, I probably will not get the cabin filter replaced at four years since it will only have less than 10,000 miles on it. Have read instructions on replacing it (Thanks Konigstiger), but looks too complicated for me. Have replaced filters on American and Asian cars (real simple) and they show little wear or dirt in my area even with over 20,000+ miles on them.
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As noted above, Konigstiger has posted a sticky on this. However, it is also in your car's Maintenance Manual as to what is required and what is recommended. I have had both the "A" and "B" services as listed, even though I only have 11,000 miles on my 2010. Have the pre-paid maintenance so not really a cost issue and dealer does tire rotations as part of service.
The maintenance reminder in your car will come on a little before every 10,000 miles OR 12 months since last service.
As for brake fluid flush, transmission service, etc. at very low mileages; think of them as insurance. On other hand, I probably will not get the cabin filter replaced at four years since it will only have less than 10,000 miles on it. Have read instructions on replacing it (Thanks Konigstiger), but looks too complicated for me. Have replaced filters on American and Asian cars (real simple) and they show little wear or dirt in my area even with over 20,000+ miles on them.
The maintenance reminder in your car will come on a little before every 10,000 miles OR 12 months since last service.
As for brake fluid flush, transmission service, etc. at very low mileages; think of them as insurance. On other hand, I probably will not get the cabin filter replaced at four years since it will only have less than 10,000 miles on it. Have read instructions on replacing it (Thanks Konigstiger), but looks too complicated for me. Have replaced filters on American and Asian cars (real simple) and they show little wear or dirt in my area even with over 20,000+ miles on them.
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Is it so complicated to replace cabin filter yourself? I remember it wa easy for W210, not sure about W212. If you decide to decline B service, then you will need to resest your service reminder. Very easy procedure you can find instruction in the forum.
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Cabin Filter
I have read the instructions on both replacing the cabin filter and resetting the service reminder. Both are complicated to me. I especially do not like the idea of starting with removing part of the dash.
On my other vehicles, you open the glove box, drop down the door, reach inside and pull out the old filter. Slide in the new one, reattach the glove box door and close the box. All by hand - no tools needed.
In fact, the owner's manuals for American and Asian cars I have owned had sections on how to do it. The only maintenance they described in the manual.
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Just be happy that they don't have to do THIS for a mere AIR FILTER CHANGE!!
If my plans go through on future 991 Porsche, I know the days will come where this will annihilate my comfort zone/peace of mind.
If my plans go through on future 991 Porsche, I know the days will come where this will annihilate my comfort zone/peace of mind.
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Just be happy that they don't have to do THIS for a mere AIR FILTER CHANGE!!
If my plans go through on future 991 Porsche, I know the days will come where this will annihilate my comfort zone/peace of mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnfp6eoI14Y
If my plans go through on future 991 Porsche, I know the days will come where this will annihilate my comfort zone/peace of mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnfp6eoI14Y
I still don't see how you can feel so comfortable in a Porsche because at 6'2 I have felt too big in them all......with the exception of the Panamera....
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few things i've noticed:
1) that guy has to learn how to drive (watch it from the 21st second
).
2) that 911 badge has to go. i guess that's how they make people get the turbo or turbo s (no more that badge).
3) not sure it's smart or dumb but have to take half the car apart to change an air filter
?
4) they were taking a brand new car apart just for this video
?
1) that guy has to learn how to drive (watch it from the 21st second
).2) that 911 badge has to go. i guess that's how they make people get the turbo or turbo s (no more that badge)
.3) not sure it's smart or dumb but have to take half the car apart to change an air filter
?4) they were taking a brand new car apart just for this video
?
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My only think getting in the way of going full steam ahead on a plan-basis is that I'm just not used to such a dimensionally small car..... even though it makes such great use of space and is more than comfortable, it's still technically "small" which being used to a larger floatier type car like the W212, makes me feel a little vulnerable. I'm sure I could get used to it quick.
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With all my respect on MB, their engineers specifically made the car hardly serviced by customers themselves. Was it done with any specific purpose or it just happened I do not know. Anyway it makes me perfect explanation why Germany lost WWII, all their tanks required professional service instead to be fixed by the tank's crew. Just imagine “do service B” light came up in the middle of the battle.
