Actually a 2010 designed MB will be far superior to a 2004 designed Tahoe. The MB will look worse but the occupants will have fewer injuries.

 

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Mass really helps when in a head on/face to face collision with another car, but I still wouldn't rule an E out from a Tahoe, considering to make up for the lack of mass, the E is engineered and constructed MUCH better and stronger than the Tahoe. However, regardless of a face-to-face, the E is a much safer car that will do a much better job at protecting your life in the event of the multitudes of crashes and scenarios available in the real world.

 

KA thanks. But confused. Can you clarify between DOWN and FORWARD/DOWN? Right now all I seem to be able to accomplish is mid back support.

 

Yeah, it's confusing with that stupid thing.

DOWN would mean just literally pressing the button only downwards. And by forward I mean pressing it to the left IF you're looking at it from outside the car (the button that points straight toward the front of the car, to put it that way). You can also press the buttons down-forward (at the 7 & 8:00 angle) which sometimes do the trick of giving me lumbar and mid back, but sometimes it seems like those two do the exact same thing as either DOWN-ONLY or FORWARD/FRONT-ONLY.

It's confusing, but what I do when I can't figure it out is just suck the air out by releasing it all (button backwards/towards back of car), then starting with a down-only push, and then following it with a forward/toward-front only push (or vice versa), and then sometimes mixing the two to see if that works.

 

K-A i mentioned this before and you didn't seem to reply. If you truely love the CLS 550 or the CL you are in the meca for fine quality seat/leather work. It would be very easy for a pro to lower the bottom seat cushion giving you the extra head room you need. Surely it can't be more that a couple grand. Since the CLS looks/seems like a perfect ride for you. Check modifying the seats...I would love to know what charge

 

The the OP: "The most uncomfortable car ever" ? Put the crack pipe down and step away from the vehicle. Do you really think the W212 is less comfortable than anything else? If the buzz has worn off and you still feel that way, you should trade it in on some other American truck.

 

I'm 6'3 and I fit perfectly into my e class coupe. Quit your *****ing, OP.

I'm also 20lbs overweight.

The car fits like a glove. Drove it from LA to Vegas and it was THE MOST relaxing drive I have EVER had in ANY of my luxury cars driven out to Vegas.

I have heard rumors that the S class is even better.....but I have no intentions of buying an S class because I can't afford to take any time off to go down to the local Coast Guard to get my sailor's license so I can legally drive an S class.

 

I agree that the E Class Coupe seats are fine. Of course, it has much different seats than in the E Class Sedan. Also, the coupe uses the C Class chassis which I prefer over the E Sedan. I wish I would have bought the
E Coupe instead of the sedan.

 

Are you kidding me? A Trans Am and a Cherokee are more comfortable than an E-Class? No, wait, the E-Class is "the most uncomfortable car ever"? Hyperbole anyone?

Yea, those Es I've been test driving for the last year are just murder--like being on the torture rack. I'm buying a used Subaru Forester--way more comfy than an E-class.

Buy whatever you want and whatever makes you happy, but come one--this doesn't make any sense at all.

 

KA. Do u have the multi contour seat? The mult contour seat does not have a D pad like the passenger seat. It has two separate buttons. One that is supposed to move the support up and down and one that is supposed to push it out or retract it in.

 

Maybe you should drive a little less and walk a little more.

 

175 miles in the same day combo of street and highway, no issues and I was still trying to figure out where the sweet spot was. Almost all positions were pretty comfortable.

 

It does work for up and down but you have to hold the button and wait for it to move.

Like if you push the button for lower position you feel it come on. Push it again and it comes on more. Now, when you push the upper position it fires higher up but you need to keep holding the button to feel the lower bag deflate.

 

so what are you trading it in for mr 6'4"?

probably won't get much for such an unconfortable car.......
I hear Kia's are nice...........how about a Hyndai??

 

Yeah, that just sounds too extreme. Plus, I really don't want to buy (or support) a car that's so cramped for me to begin with. I don't love the CLS or even CL for that matter enough to go through those lengths and dollar amounts. For me, next up, if all goes as planned or no new enticing options pop up, I'm putting either a new Porsche 911 (dream car) or new 6-Series on the "I want, I need!" list . Both are IMO practically the nicest cars out there, and are more than sleek and sporty enough for me, yet actually have long torso humans like myself in mind (both have more headroom than my upright Sedan E-Class for f's sake).

Two things have been really tugging at me: I'm craving a Coupe, all of a sudden, I feel really weird and pointless in a 4-Door, and a smaller car will be such a nice thing for my life, i.e it'll be so much easier to clean and maintain for an OCD nut like myself. I could probably wash, wax, and over-analyze every inch of a 911 in half the time I could my E-Class.

 

Thanks. So I am clear, the button furthest back on the control panel is what is used to move the support up and down your back, correct? The button one up from it (closer to dash) is used to add or reduce support? Or do I have it backwards? So you are saying to push and hold the button that moves the lumbar down to deflate middle support, then release and push the same button and hold it again to inflate lower support? If that is the case, then what does the other button do. For such a simple task, they have made it infinetely confusing.

All i seem to ever be able to get is mid to upper back support and I have tried all sorts of button combinations. When I take it in for service on fRiday I will ask them to check it out and hopefully be able to sit in another W212 with multi-contour seats to see how it works. Maybe mine isn't functioning correctly.

 

I'll take ANY German made car over ANY American car anyday.... German cars pass much more stringent testing by the TUV. Unlike our DOT and NHTSA they are not in the back pockets of the auto industry. Offset frontal impact (the most common frontal crash) crashes prove that American trucks in particular fail miserably.

Consumer reports tests automobiles in real life scenarios and could NOT recommend the Tahoe as it's safety results were too low.

"The folks at Consumer Reports said that the 2011 Ford Edge, Lincoln MKX and the Chevrolet Tahoe all scored to low to be recommended by the publication.
“In a highly competitive category, all three of these vehicles have a number of strengths, but each had some notable weaknesses that forced their testing scores to fall below our standard for a recommended SUV,” said David Champion, senior director of Consumer Reports’ Auto Test Center in East Haddam, Connecticut."

Chew on that yo...

 

I agree with you

 

I agree with you

 

I'd absolutely LOVE a 911, but they are so ostentatious, I think I'd feel like a **** driving one around.

I'm thinking about something more nimble and better handling, so I'm comtemplating the new 3 series (F30). I worry that I'll regret not getting a new W212 though....

 

It amazes me how personal some of you take criticisms to your CAR for God's sake. Give me a break. It's not like someone is criticism your wife or child. Seriously, some of you need to get a little more substance in your life. It's just a fn car people. Yes,Ii understand that some are passionate about their cars but seriously, the W212 is NOT the best car in the world. Look at all the cost cutting MB did from the W211 to the W212 to make it more affordable so more people would buy it. It is a mass production car and I see a dozen or more every couple days. It's a fine car but it's still just a mass produced car and it is not exclusive in any way. Now I want to thank the couple members that actually provided some useful advice and I will be the first to admit when I am idiot. After two years I had no idea (the manual gives no details) that the lower lumbar support with the multi contour seat existed. I never though that you would have to hold the down button until the upper support retracted, then release button and push it again to activate the lower support. Then u can adjust the lower support out more if you wish. THEN push the up button again to activate the middle lumbar support and then you can adjust it independent of the lower support. Who the hell would have thought lumbar support would have been so complicated. I guess I am just used to the simple mechanical support that moves up or down and then in and out in one position. I will mess with this setting more to see if I get more comfortable in the car. Unfortunately this won't help with my shirt getting wet even with AC on max because the side supports (which active restraint is off) just squeeze too tight preventing any circulation of air. Don't have ventilated seats, but others have said they don't do anything anyway.

 

Since you have th MC seat, you may have already discovered you can adjust the side bolsters to provide more or less compression. That may help a bit with the lower back ventilation. Not sure which switch controls the side bolsters. I think the second one from the front.

 

Haha, yeahh I know what you mean. This is why I love the E-Class and its "type of car", it shines when it needs to, but also can be low profile, understated. It's bold and noticeable when it needs to be, yet can go by unnoticed if need be as well.

As far as "Exotics" go (yes I always consider a 911 an exotic), I think the 911 is about the most understated in terms of not being a "showoff" as you can get. Though, of course, yes, it's far too "look at me!" to be able to even take it everywhere, IMO.

I already started bugging myself about whether or not I can deal with the attention it may generate, especially at the places where I'll most usually have it parked.

 

Thanks, but I have adjusted the side bolsters out as far as they can go. Still just a tad too tight. This is actually one thing I noted the first time I sat in the car but didn't think it would be an issue.

 

oh geez......I really like the side bolstering stuff..(cls)..have to put them all the way in and I can feel them.......but I'm pretty thin......not the average American size...
I always wish I had that in my 550.........