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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wig
Predictably most of the debate is between BMW and Audi. MB seems to appeal to a slightly different audience.

MB should resist the urge to go more 'sporty', because that is Audi and BMW territory. MB is risking alienating its traditional fan base.
I think MB has no choice. Their base is the old Buick crowd and if you want customers for life you must get them when they are young .ie: the C coupe and the upcoming CLA.

Cadillac and Lincoln used to own the premium market and they kept catering to the base with big sloppy cars and one day they woke up and realized their customers were all dying.

If you look forward, BMW and Audi have a great advantage because they own the future with the 3 series and the A4.

What MB does in the next five years will determine if they will remain the premier brand or not.

If you are an investor, BMW is a better bet long term than Daimler
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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I was considering one of those. Then I considered myself to re-think the 991 as that's where my heart really was.

.... then I decided to keep the extra cash in the bank and Lease a 5-Series.

Congrats, big upgrade from the Targa and a Porsche 911 TT is the epitome of timeless.
thanx KA
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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hype, enough is enough ! time to consider donate some of your chump change to me . don't tell me you are going to change the wheels to hre .
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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hype, enough is enough ! time to consider donate some of your chump change to me . don't tell me you are going to change the wheels to hre .
already did brother
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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I'm jacking this thread with pictures of my 07-new to me ride


OOOOOooo!!!

Nice one.
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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Didn't know the W212 didn't have folding mirrors. I thought they all did since all the MB SUVs I've owned (including the ML W164) had them. As you know by now, on the 5er, you can program it (aftermarket) so that they fold/open whenever you lock/unlock your car.



Agreed for the most part. However, they are handy in any crowded parking lot where people (and possibly their carts, strollers, etc) are zigzagging between cars looking for their own car. Folding mirrors always save potential damage in these scenarios. They are more useful than they appear.

Well,

not so fast. Foldingirror can actually invite far more serious damage to your car if you think about people running with their shopping carts between cars. Folding the mirrors opens up the gap between the cars to invite someone to go thru with the cart and scrape your paint.

Folding mirrors really are needed when you need to maneuver your car in tight garages between cars and pillars. I have parked in places where the car would not fit without first folding the mirror on one side.
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperion667
I'm jacking this thread with pictures of my 07-new to me ride


Nice!! I'm looking at the 2013 911, but I've been shopping an older turbo. A Porsche is the perfect compliment to the W212....
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 12:53 AM
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already did brother
those wheels are already red hot and you want something white hot ?!
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 05:18 AM
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I try to refrain myself from posting in this epic topic because this cool topic lost its course but enough is enough lol I want to "throw off" my special congrats wishes to hyper on his new Porsche

Back to MB concern, I like to see more cars coming in different classes such as CLA . May be MB becomes pioneer once again and other Teutons follow its paces . I refer to CLS , when it first came out other brands also tried to replicate what MB did . Audi A7 , BMW 6 Coupe .
However, keeping traditional MB customers is a must I dare say . This is why as much as MB should make new models they should not try to reinvent the tire by getting rid of the traditional MB grill and the logo on the hood
For ex : W222 S65 AMG models should have a proper grill as W221s does

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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 09:45 AM
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Nice car Hype. That one will crack the 200mph. This is where you separate the men from the boys.

You should join the Porsche Club of America. They have a lot of track DE days. It lets you get the most out of that monster in a safe environment.

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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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I wish you hadn't, now I've got to go take a look at these...always wanted, pushed to the back of my mind...
Congrats on the new ride!
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Hype - that was nice of you to spend $75K (guessing) just to help get this thread back on a positive track.

Thanks.

And congrats on the nice ride.

Originally Posted by hyperion667
I'm jacking this thread with pictures of my 07-new to me ride
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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When you're being outsold, you get aggressive. MB invested heavily in the facelift to make the W/S212 the best in segment once again.

With the luxury and sport differentiation (star on hood vs star in grille), this car should appeal to a much wider audience. It's awkward in photos but it presents nicely in person.

do you have any pics or can you get any pics?
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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The Front-end looks a bit more appealing on this site:

http://www.emercedesbenz.com/autos/m...ad-of-detroit/
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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More shots

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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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Since we are talking face lifts, BMWs, and Porsches I thought why not see what you all think of the new 2014 corvette stingray announced tonight in Detroit....

http://autos.yahoo.com/photos/2014-c...897804019.html
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Since we are talking face lifts, BMWs, and Porsches I thought why not see what you all think of the new 2014 corvette stingray announced tonight in Detroit....

http://autos.yahoo.com/photos/2014-c...897804019.html
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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good grief that looks mean!
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good grief that looks mean!
I'm digging it....
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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Looks like a GTR and a Vette had a baby (with a stronger gene pool from the GTR).

Looks insanely aggressive, pretty damn cool so far.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 11:25 PM
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The rear is too "Camaroish", don't you think?

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The rear is too "Camaroish", don't you think?

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No, I think the new corvette has maintained the "Classic" 4 tail light design it's had most of its production life which was long before the Camaro received it's new rear end. The same guy that lead the camaro design team is the same guy that lead the corvette design team.
IMHO, Chevy matured the design of the corvette. Unlike MB that threw away the Quad lamps on the E and gave it the feel of a lexus. MB tried to play it safe where chevy took it too the next level.
Also, Chevy addressed the complaints of the "cheap" interior and redesigned it using higher quality materials and leathers. We will see when it appears in the fall.

I still love my W212, but I was thinking about a Porsche for a second car. Now, I may wait until the fall and take a test drive in the new Sting ray.
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Looks like a GTR and a Vette had a baby (with a stronger gene pool from the GTR).

Looks insanely aggressive, pretty damn cool so far.
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The rear is too "Camaroish", don't you think?

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I don't think it looks GTR-ish at all.....or Camero-ish.....

just me though
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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No, I think the new corvette has maintained the "Classic" 4 tail light design it's had most of its production life which was long before the Camaro received it's new rear end. The same guy that lead the camaro design team is the same guy that lead the corvette design team.
IMHO, Chevy matured the design of the corvette. Unlike MB that threw away the Quad lamps on the E and gave it the feel of a lexus. MB tried to play it safe where chevy took it too the next level.
Also, Chevy addressed the complaints of the "cheap" interior and redesigned it using higher quality materials and leathers. We will see when it appears in the fall.

I still love my W212, but I was thinking about a Porsche for a second car. Now, I may wait until the fall and take a test drive in the new Sting ray.
I agree a lot, I look forward to seeing this baddie in person
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I agree a lot, I look forward to seeing this baddie in person
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