Does Everyone put 91+ octane in your E Class?
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gas tends to be in marine engines longer, just like small power equipment, ethanol blends do better if used relatively quickly.
being on or around the water and humidity will effect E85, to a lesser degree, E10.
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Well, I’ve been a part of, and engaged in, many a debate over octane rating to use, best oil to buy, and best tires for many years across many different car brands I’ve owned. But I have to say, this one clearly takes the cake! I don’t think I’ve ever approached the whole dead bodies aspect before….. winner winner chicken dinner… best or nothing at all, and when it comes to the fuel debate - this one has been the best!
end of the day for me - I use premium because I just like the added power. If it costs me an extra $1,500 a year, well, so be it. Plus, I suspect it clubs more baby seals, and who doesn’t hate a baby seal? Ha!
end of the day for me - I use premium because I just like the added power. If it costs me an extra $1,500 a year, well, so be it. Plus, I suspect it clubs more baby seals, and who doesn’t hate a baby seal? Ha!
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Well, old two strokes are particularly prone to dislike ethanol, the PH is low and the lubricity is low. they also miss lead, which was a lubricant of sorts.
gas tends to be in marine engines longer, just like small power equipment, ethanol blends do better if used relatively quickly.
being on or around the water and humidity will effect E85, to a lesser degree, E10.
gas tends to be in marine engines longer, just like small power equipment, ethanol blends do better if used relatively quickly.
being on or around the water and humidity will effect E85, to a lesser degree, E10.
I also never use gas with ethanol in it. I pay the extra to purchase ethanol free. Actually had to pay $85 to have the carburetor, etc. in a Stihl chain saw rebuilt because I had used gas with ethanol in it and left it in for a month. Even though I added Sta-Bilt.
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Since 2006, the IndyCar racing Series has used a variation of E85, which contains 85% ethanol and 15% high- octane racing fuel, which delivers an octane rating of 105. It seems to work fine for these high performance engines.
Keep in mind, petroleum stocks are also used to make most of the various plastics we consume. There will continue to be a need for this as oil stocks are depleted... Maybe sooner than anticipated.
Keep in mind, petroleum stocks are also used to make most of the various plastics we consume. There will continue to be a need for this as oil stocks are depleted... Maybe sooner than anticipated.
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Reminds me of a Buffet song I heard Sunday while drinking a Mojito.....
"Why dont we get drunk and Scr!@#@#!"
Talk about off topic....
91+ octane unless desperate
"Why dont we get drunk and Scr!@#@#!"
Talk about off topic....
91+ octane unless desperate
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The only reason ethanol is used in fuel is because the corn producers and US government mandated it. It all began during a fuel "crisis" when the corn producers and their lobby convinced Congress that ethanol could be added to gasoline. The sole purpose was to reduce imports of gasoline, not to improve the gasoline in any way. It is not good for gasoline or gasoline powered equipment or vehicles.
It is required for political reasons and no other. That is why Iowa schedules its presidential caucus as first in the nation. Strictly so the Iowa corn producers can force candidates to continue to support ethanol.
The corn producers lobby is working hard to mandate 15% ethanol in gasoline (if not already done) and then they will work to mandate 20% and beyond.
It has become a growth industry for corn producers, refiners and transporters. So more lobbyists sending more money to Washington politicians.
Land that could be producing corn for animals or people has been diverted to corn for ethanol a it is more profitable for the corn producers.
It is required for political reasons and no other. That is why Iowa schedules its presidential caucus as first in the nation. Strictly so the Iowa corn producers can force candidates to continue to support ethanol.
The corn producers lobby is working hard to mandate 15% ethanol in gasoline (if not already done) and then they will work to mandate 20% and beyond.
It has become a growth industry for corn producers, refiners and transporters. So more lobbyists sending more money to Washington politicians.
Land that could be producing corn for animals or people has been diverted to corn for ethanol a it is more profitable for the corn producers.
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I think (hope) you meant to say PJ's subjective opinion. In other words, he is biased because he manufactures and sells ethanol.
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"The quick answer is it's a wash, E-10 is great,E-85 not so much, the biggest difference is who gets the money big oil or big AG, with a small portion to farmers."
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E-10 cleans your fuel system, raises octane and helps farmers and the environment.
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Clearly Greenburg mistitled his novel. Should've been Soylent Orange.
In using real gasoline, I've never - ever - had a fuel related problem in any of my far too many small engines that have old gas in them. Blower? Chain saws? Generator? Mower? No matter. Last season's fuel in them, fire 'em up.
I doubt I'd have the same results with ethanol laced fuel.
In using real gasoline, I've never - ever - had a fuel related problem in any of my far too many small engines that have old gas in them. Blower? Chain saws? Generator? Mower? No matter. Last season's fuel in them, fire 'em up.
I doubt I'd have the same results with ethanol laced fuel.
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if you use lower octane in these engines it does elevate exhaust gas temps so yes they can run the lower octane with the engineered anti knock systems but...You will increase exhaust temps that lower the life expectancy of emissions systems. Especially if you are stepping hard on the throttle. Now if you are driving it like any other commuter car and not dipping into the mid range power band you will be fine but then again why did you buy this car if you are not going to occasionally use the juice!
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Curious what mileage folks are getting and what fuel they use to get it.
Ethanol free premium yields a consistent 29mpg at 6200' elevation and I'm not gentle with the pedal.
Ethanol free premium yields a consistent 29mpg at 6200' elevation and I'm not gentle with the pedal.
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Boy you guys are certainly living in an alternate reality. Harry Harrison wrote the novel, Greenburg did the script and it is Soylent Green, no idea where orange came from. But we're pretty far from the subject of this thread.
Next we'll start talking about the proper interpretation of quantum entanglement and how the Everett interpretation is correct and that's why you're from alternate realities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation
Next we'll start talking about the proper interpretation of quantum entanglement and how the Everett interpretation is correct and that's why you're from alternate realities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation
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Boy you guys are certainly living in an alternate reality. Harry Harrison wrote the novel, Greenburg did the script and it is Soylent Green, no idea where orange came from. But we're pretty far from the subject of this thread.
Next we'll start talking about the proper interpretation of quantum entanglement and how the Everett interpretation is correct and that's why you're from alternate realities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation
Next we'll start talking about the proper interpretation of quantum entanglement and how the Everett interpretation is correct and that's why you're from alternate realities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation
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Well, I’ve been a part of, and engaged in, many a debate over octane rating to use, best oil to buy, and best tires for many years across many different car brands I’ve owned. But I have to say, this one clearly takes the cake! I don’t think I’ve ever approached the whole dead bodies aspect before….. winner winner chicken dinner… best or nothing at all, and when it comes to the fuel debate - this one has been the best!
end of the day for me - I use premium because I just like the added power. If it costs me an extra $1,500 a year, well, so be it. Plus, I suspect it clubs more baby seals, and who doesn’t hate a baby seal? Ha!
end of the day for me - I use premium because I just like the added power. If it costs me an extra $1,500 a year, well, so be it. Plus, I suspect it clubs more baby seals, and who doesn’t hate a baby seal? Ha!
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I'm all for using high octane in engines where the manufacturer calls for it. Doing otherwise results in the ECU constantly adjusting timing due to input from the anti-knock sensors. To the unknowing driver, this unintentionally masks that the engine is not performing well on low octane fuel, But it not only reduces the efficiency of the engine, but also is hard on it. That is why in an engine like most Mercedes, using low octane fuel will feel like it has less energy.
However, to use high octane fuel in engines that don't require it does not yield more power. It does not burn cleaner. It does nothing.
Anyone who owns gas operated small power equipment, such as chain saws, blowers, trimmers, etc. knows (or should) to run the tank dry after use unless planning to use within next few weeks. I run mine dry unless I know I will be using it within a week or less.
I also never use gas with ethanol in it. I pay the extra to purchase ethanol free. Actually had to pay $85 to have the carburetor, etc. in a Stihl chain saw rebuilt because I had used gas with ethanol in it and left it in for a month. Even though I added Sta-Bilt.
I also never use gas with ethanol in it. I pay the extra to purchase ethanol free. Actually had to pay $85 to have the carburetor, etc. in a Stihl chain saw rebuilt because I had used gas with ethanol in it and left it in for a month. Even though I added Sta-Bilt.
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Boy you guys are certainly living in an alternate reality. Harry Harrison wrote the novel, Greenburg did the script and it is Soylent Green, no idea where orange came from. But we're pretty far from the subject of this thread.
Next we'll start talking about the proper interpretation of quantum entanglement and how the Everett interpretation is correct and that's why you're from alternate realities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation
Next we'll start talking about the proper interpretation of quantum entanglement and how the Everett interpretation is correct and that's why you're from alternate realities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation
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An engine developing more power and the energy content of gasoline are two different things. The btu content of premium and regular are the same. So you don't get any more energy out of a gallon of premium than a gallon of regular. You can have an engine that can develop more power than others though.
