E-Class (W212) 2010 - 2016: E 350, E 550

Much diff. 2011 and 2013?

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Old 02-24-2016 | 12:49 AM
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Much diff. 2011 and 2013?

Not a huge difference in price. Just wondering if any diff. in the cars of those years?
Old 02-24-2016 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rhart6
Not a huge difference in price. Just wondering if any diff. in the cars of those years?

What are you talking about? E350 / E550 ?
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Well two major differences. First 2010-2011 have their airbags recalled and it's unknown when MB will have the parts to fix all of them. Also in 2012, the standard 3.5L engine went to direct injection so HP went to 302 from 268hp. And one last factor is that a 2013 with under 50k probably has some of the original warranty left and you can buy up to a 7 year/100k extended warranty or get 3 years unlimited miles CPO warranty. That would be much harder to find in a 2011.
Old 02-24-2016 | 10:17 AM
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on the e350 if there's not much difference i'd always go with the newer car. the 2012-2013 have a newer engine, based off american design and single air filter, more power and hopefully somewhat more reliable.

i believe there is a transmission change in there somewhere and the service interval is moved from 40K to 60K.
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I know that 2012 had pretty significant changes in gas cars over 2011. I'm still considering the 350 Bluetec and I think that model was same 2011 to 2013. If I don't go with Blutec I'll go 550. I know I know. Two extremes. I have Porsche Turbo Coupe and Cayenne Turbo. It would be nice to have something that gets MPG into double digits. Bluetec get 400% better mileage than the Cayenne Turbo.
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Well two major differences. First 2010-2011 have their airbags recalled and it's unknown when MB will have the parts to fix all of them. Also in 2012, the standard 3.5L engine went to direct injection so HP went to 302 from 268hp. And one last factor is that a 2013 with under 50k probably has some of the original warranty left and you can buy up to a 7 year/100k extended warranty or get 3 years unlimited miles CPO warranty. That would be much harder to find in a 2011.
This is an important comment. I'm guessing they charge $3K or so for extended? I usually don't keep cars that long but it is nice for resale as well.
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http://www.cars.com/go/compare/trimC...,USC30MBC782A0


I used it when i first started looking at 2 door convertibles I could put 4 adults in....
Old 02-24-2016 | 10:37 AM
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I'll try that. Edmunds doesn't have that I don't think
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Originally Posted by rhart6
This is an important comment. I'm guessing they charge $3K or so for extended? I usually don't keep cars that long but it is nice for resale as well.
Prices vary, it's in that ballpark, you'd have to check with the dealers that sell it direct in the extended warranty forum. I don't know why they don't actually like to post the price, seems to be in the 2-3k range depending on what you buy.

For extended, you have to buy the car from a non MB dealer and you can get some of your money back if you haven't really used it. With CPO, you can't get money back, but it can be transferred to the next owner, but it expires if you trade it into a dealer. CPO is only from an MB dealer and it has to come with 1 year and you can buy 2 extra years from any US MB dealer. You would probably be better off asking one of those dealers about a price as I think someone tried to buy one only to find it had a previous extended or CPO warranty that was expired and couldn't buy another one.
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I like to use Motor Trend to see what the option packages were for the year.

Then I use a VIN decoder like:

http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz

That's to see what the option packages are on the car. For 2013, they still had the BiXenon headlamps, 2014 I think they went with LED and got rid of the headlamp washers.
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
I like to use Motor Trend to see what the option packages were for the year.

Then I use a VIN decoder like:

http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz

That's to see what the option packages are on the car. For 2013, they still had the BiXenon headlamps, 2014 I think they went with LED and got rid of the headlamp washers.
Good stuff alpha.
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Yeah, the Bixenons are fun as the curve illumination is pretty cool, but the P2 package wasn't common, I'd say around 1 in 10 may have it. At least you can look for the headlamp washers on the front of the car.
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Originally Posted by mrmotoguzzi00
You can plug in 4 vehicles on cars.com for some specs...



http://www.cars.com/go/compare/trimC...,USC30MBC782A0


I used it when i first started looking at 2 door convertibles I could put 4 adults in....
Jeez nice job. I didn't realize you put in my info till I hopped on the Lifecycle for my workout and went to check out the site. And as has happened many times in the past I look at mpg for Blutech vs E550 and at 15000 miles per yr it only costs me 300 bux to drive more car per year.
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Originally Posted by rhart6
I know that 2012 had pretty significant changes in gas cars over 2011. I'm still considering the 350 Bluetec and I think that model was same 2011 to 2013. If I don't go with Blutec I'll go 550. I know I know. Two extremes. I have Porsche Turbo Coupe and Cayenne Turbo. It would be nice to have something that gets MPG into double digits. Bluetec get 400% better mileage than the Cayenne Turbo.
Even though the engines were identical for the diesels, the transmission was updated to the 7G+ for 2012. In addition, COMAND is a bit newer and includes a full color screen in the instrument cluster in the 2012+ models.
Old 02-24-2016 | 01:30 PM
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Even though the engines were identical for the diesels, the transmission was updated to the 7G+ for 2012. In addition, COMAND is a bit newer and includes a full color screen in the instrument cluster in the 2012+ models.
This is the exact type of info I was looking for. Edmunds said 2011 to 2012 Blutec had no changes. Thanks for this correct info.
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If there is not much difference in price, than at least one of them is the wrong price or has problems. Or you are overlooking a big difference in mileage.
Old 02-24-2016 | 07:19 PM
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I was originally looking at 2011-2013 Bluetec. Diff at Manheim is only a few thousand dollars. Tho when buy my own cars I get them on the open market and find I can get very close to Wholesale pricing. (And I corrected for mileage) Diff in 550 pricing is more like 8K.

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