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Old 09-19-2016, 11:09 PM
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Flat spots on wheels?

I have the 18" alloy wheels for my 2012 e550 4m; Mercedes part number 212 401 3602 88. This past week my mechanic showed me a flat spot on the wheel between the spokes; he says they aren't bad enough to damage the ride, and it didn't affect the balance, so I shouldn't panic. But I'd like to ask some questions:

In the forum members experience, are these flat spots common?
In the forum members experience, are these wheel tolerant of the presses used by rim repair companies.
Should I consider repairing or replacing the wheel which has the flat spot?
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Is the flat spot on the mounting surface of the tire? And how big is this flat spot? Can you post a picture of this? If it isn't on the mounting surface and you have no balance problems, I wouldn't worry about it. Of course, if you are one of those that just needs things to be perfect, by all means repair or replace it.
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Originally Posted by iGeorge
I have the 18" alloy wheels for my 2012 e550 4m; Mercedes part number 212 401 3602 88. This past week my mechanic showed me a flat spot on the wheel between the spokes; he says they aren't bad enough to damage the ride, and it didn't affect the balance, so I shouldn't panic. But I'd like to ask some questions:

In the forum members experience, are these flat spots common?
In the forum members experience, are these wheel tolerant of the presses used by rim repair companies.
Should I consider repairing or replacing the wheel which has the flat spot?
never even heard of this before.. what is a flat spot? can anyone enlighten me plz
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I think the only times I've ever heard flat spots being talked about was when members park their cars for prolonged periods of time, and the tires begin to deform and create a noted indentation on the contact patch with the road/garage surface. It usually evens out after some driving.
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This flat spot is on the wheel? Never heard of this, ever.
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I think the only times I've ever heard flat spots being talked about was when members park their cars for prolonged periods of time, and the tires begin to deform and create a noted indentation on the contact patch with the road/garage surface. It usually evens out after some driving.
thank you..... i wonder how long it has to be park in case for it to happen.... years? lol
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thank you..... i wonder how long it has to be park in case for it to happen.... years? lol
Some times even months, or weeks. Good example is if we parked our cars when the temperatures change and tire pressure lowers, all while entirely parked due to some business or life circumstance, when the car is driven again, the ride will feel uneven and bumpy for the first few miles.

Although in the OP's case, I actually think this may be an actual manufacturing problem on one of the wheels? But if it's balancing out and not losing air pressure, I wouldn't worry about it.
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OP, By flat spots do you mean bent rims?
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Bent rims are usually on the back side of the wheel in the barrel where it's weakest. Not the face typically.
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I've had my rims fixed before. The guy says that OE rims are easy to bend back and they are fine afterwards, aftermarket ones are sometimes weaker and don't hold up as well. The flat spot is probably from hitting a pothole or curb. And if you see it on the outside, you should check the inside, probably there too.
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Originally Posted by belarus27
thank you..... i wonder how long it has to be park in case for it to happen.... years? lol
Flat spot on tires can happen overnight. Depending on the compound and design of the tire.

If I don't drive my car for 2 to 3 days, I will get slight vibration in front end for the first couple of miles due to flat spotting in the tire.

Flat spotting in the wheel is usually a manufacturing defect or you hit something hard enough to cause the wheel to bend.

It happened to me once when I hit a 2x4 piece of wood on the highway (fell off a truck in front of me and I didn't have enough time to dodge it).

It bent the rim and caused a "flat" looking spot in it and could be felt in the steering wheel as severe vibrations. Tire was not damaged, so I had to have the rim replaced.
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Flat spot on tires can happen overnight. Depending on the compound and design of the tire.

If I don't drive my car for 2 to 3 days, I will get slight vibration in front end for the first couple of miles due to flat spotting in the tire.

Flat spotting in the wheel is usually a manufacturing defect or you hit something hard enough to cause the wheel to bend.

It happened to me once when I hit a 2x4 piece of wood on the highway (fell off a truck in front of me and I didn't have enough time to dodge it).

It bent the rim and caused a "flat" looking spot in it and could be felt in the steering wheel as severe vibrations. Tire was not damaged, so I had to have the rim replaced.
at first i thought it was something similar to this , but i guess its a different thing
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That looks like you hit something, there's some paint scrapped off on the edge of the rim as well.
That looks like it should be fixed or replaced ASAP.
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That looks like you hit something, there's some paint scrapped off on the edge of the rim as well.
That looks like it should be fixed or replaced ASAP.
NO NO , its just a pic from the internet , i thought thats what *flat spot* look like... i was wrong.

(i had bent wheels like that in the past tho)
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Originally Posted by belarus27
NO NO , its just a pic from the internet , i thought thats what *flat spot* look like... i was wrong.

(i had bent wheels like that in the past tho)
Ok that looks similar to what happened to my wheel after I ran over that 2x4 at 80mph.

The tire didn't blow out or leak but was getting violent shakes in the front end.
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Originally Posted by Sunnyslope48
Is the flat spot on the mounting surface of the tire? And how big is this flat spot? Can you post a picture of this? If it isn't on the mounting surface and you have no balance problems, I wouldn't worry about it. Of course, if you are one of those that just needs things to be perfect, by all means repair or replace it.
I can't show the flat spot unfortunately; the tires were being replaced and before the car came off the lift, the mechanic spun the wheels to show me the flat spot while watching the edge of the rim spin by.
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OP, By flat spots do you mean bent rims?
Yes, bent rim, seen from the inside aspect of the rim while I was standing under the car; the car was up on a lift.
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Originally Posted by belarus27
at first i thought it was something similar to this , but i guess its a different thing
It not nearly as bad as that photo, but yes, the same type of thing. Wow, I guess this isn't an uncommon occurrence! Thank you all so much for the replies! I'll look to see about repairing the rim.
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It not nearly as bad as that photo, but yes, the same type of thing. Wow, I guess this isn't an uncommon occurrence! Thank you all so much for the replies! I'll look to see about repairing the rim.
whete you located , i could hook you up with a wheel repair guy , would cost you only 80 bucks.
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whete you located , i could hook you up with a wheel repair guy , would cost you only 80 bucks.
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Originally Posted by belarus27
whete you located , i could hook you up with a wheel repair guy , would cost you only 80 bucks.
can you send me the info too ?
I'm in SF and I believe two of my rims are bent slightly
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can you send me the info too ?
I'm in SF and I believe two of my rims are bent slightly
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Originally Posted by thenew3
Flat spot on tires can happen overnight. Depending on the compound and design of the tire.

If I don't drive my car for 2 to 3 days, I will get slight vibration in front end for the first couple of miles due to flat spotting in the tire.

Flat spotting in the wheel is usually a manufacturing defect or you hit something hard enough to cause the wheel to bend.

It happened to me once when I hit a 2x4 piece of wood on the highway (fell off a truck in front of me and I didn't have enough time to dodge it).

It bent the rim and caused a "flat" looking spot in it and could be felt in the steering wheel as severe vibrations. Tire was not damaged, so I had to have the rim replaced.

In the morning on my way to work I get what could best be described as a beat frequency resonance It seems to improve as I drive more. Did your tire flat spotting make a similar vibration?
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Originally Posted by MBNUT1
In the morning on my way to work I get what could best be described as a beat frequency resonance It seems to improve as I drive more. Did your tire flat spotting make a similar vibration?
Sounds about right. If it goes away after a few miles (when tires warm up) then it's most likely flat spotting in the tire.

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