Time for new battery...?
#26
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1922 Ford Model T / no OBD
, then please give me the old fashioned flooded batteries, instead. .
The main advantage of AGM battery is capability of working upside down, or on the side, what I have no use for.
Beside that AGM batteries don't prove themselves long-lived, seems the regenerative charging in newer cars is killing factor as well, but 1 of my flooded batteries is over 3 years old already.
Flooded batteries come with 96 months warranty.
Last edited by kajtek1; 04-17-2019 at 09:51 AM.
#27
This is what I have in my 2 MB.
The main advantage of AGM battery is capability of working upside down, or on the side, what I have no use for.
Beside that AGM batteries don't prove themselves long-lived, seems the regenerative charging in newer cars is killing factor as well, but 1 of my flooded batteries is over 3 years old already.
Flooded batteries come with 96 months warranty.
The main advantage of AGM battery is capability of working upside down, or on the side, what I have no use for.
Beside that AGM batteries don't prove themselves long-lived, seems the regenerative charging in newer cars is killing factor as well, but 1 of my flooded batteries is over 3 years old already.
Flooded batteries come with 96 months warranty.
I also own a 2015 SLK petrol R172 blueefficiency (same system as C Class above), I compared the R171 SLK against the R172 at the web site https://www.honestjohn.co.uk for on the road fuel MPG, the difference is 1.9%.
Why JD Power Reports 44% More Car Owners Are Having Battery Problems
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorz.../#158a1566323c
AGM AFTERMARKET FALTERS AS DRIVERS DISABLE START-STOP FUNCTION
http://www.batteriesinternational.co...stop-function/
Last edited by Robuk; 04-17-2019 at 01:28 PM. Reason: more info
#28
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No AMG unfortunately, and we'll just leave it as that
I am genuinely confused whether OEM MB batteries today are flooded or AGM.
#29
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There are two systems at work here, stop/start and energy regeneration, I own a December 2011 C-Class 1.8 Coupe CGi petrol Blueefficiency which has Direct fuel injection,Turbo,Stop/start and regeneration, I have full service records and the battery is the original AGM, I purchased the car Feb 2016 and have always turned off the stop/start function, 6 months ago I found a way of deactivating both stop/start and regeneration by simply disconnecting the sensor on the negative rail of the starter battery, the EMU puts the alternator into a standard charging regime of between 13.8 to 14.4 volts as cannot now read the SOC, the advantage of this standard regime is the battery gets to be fully charged and you don`t get a 16 volt high charge from regeneration. The car has now been running with this disconnect for about 6.5 months, other than loosing brake hold everything works as normal, no stop/start and no regeneration and no EML. The battery is now 6 years 4 months old, it tested this morning after resting over night at 12.67 volts and starts the car first time every time.
Why JD Power Reports 44% More Car Owners Are Having Battery Problems
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorz.../#158a1566323c
AGM AFTERMARKET FALTERS AS DRIVERS DISABLE START-STOP FUNCTION
http://www.batteriesinternational.co...stop-function/
Why JD Power Reports 44% More Car Owners Are Having Battery Problems
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorz.../#158a1566323c
AGM AFTERMARKET FALTERS AS DRIVERS DISABLE START-STOP FUNCTION
http://www.batteriesinternational.co...stop-function/
Interesting concept, although not usable for me as I love ECO stops while spending long minutes at red light and my DPF equipped diesel has to have regeneration. The highest voltage I see is 14.7V
Than like article says - 5% fuel savings give me at least $50 a year (we don't drive cars much) so saved money pay for new battery every 3 years.
To make it clear - I have flooded main battery, but still AGM for ECO. But I bought small battery at FCP and they give lifetime warranty.
Last edited by kajtek1; 04-17-2019 at 12:40 PM.
#30
Update:
With one week left before our 2015 E400's 4 yr orig factory warranty is up, went to dealer to have battery checkup & Nav update.
Service Advisor called 2 hours later, said battery has low voltage, so they replaced for free, & Nav updated.
Got our vehicle back, we checked the Nav version, it still shows 2014/2015 (V 12.0) N America version. Informed Advisor. He checked & said Sorry, new version is NTG4.5 Command & costs $99, will take an hour to install. I asked any extra cost for installation? He said No, the $99 is for the cost of install labor. An hour later, got our car back & checked, new Version 2019 (V19.0) was installed. Advisor said Don't worry about the cost, it's Free. So both new battery & Nav update were totally free since we brought it in before the 4 yr warranty expired.
With one week left before our 2015 E400's 4 yr orig factory warranty is up, went to dealer to have battery checkup & Nav update.
Service Advisor called 2 hours later, said battery has low voltage, so they replaced for free, & Nav updated.
Got our vehicle back, we checked the Nav version, it still shows 2014/2015 (V 12.0) N America version. Informed Advisor. He checked & said Sorry, new version is NTG4.5 Command & costs $99, will take an hour to install. I asked any extra cost for installation? He said No, the $99 is for the cost of install labor. An hour later, got our car back & checked, new Version 2019 (V19.0) was installed. Advisor said Don't worry about the cost, it's Free. So both new battery & Nav update were totally free since we brought it in before the 4 yr warranty expired.