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I own this charger like 4 years now.
When I first got it , I wanted to buy another smaller capacity one specific to charging the Start Stop 12Ah battery at the trunk.
The "polite/civiled" charging rule for AGM / Flooded is, 15% maximum of the rated capacity of the battery. This Cetrek MXS 5.0 at the start ( LED 1 and 2 and 3 ) will pump 4ish amps.
So for a 12Ah AGM baby sized battery, this charger is too offensive and for my main battery which is 80Ah, it is nice and gentle.

Its been sometime now that I killed ECO START STOP B03 function. When ECO was still active, the baby 12Ah AGM has always been charged well, no load test would be a nice 12.7Volt.
Few days back I was messing around with Xentry and read the baby 12Ah AGM voltage status, it was 10.27 volts due to its own natural discharge.
So I charged it with my Cetrek MXS 5.0, no choice. The baby battery gets a tiny bit like +2 Celsius warmer. That means the amperage is a bit too much at 4amp ish.
I thought so be it, since I do not use this baby battery anymore, but would like once in a while to charge it to keep it tip top shape... 4ish amps here we go...sadly.

Just half an hour ago, I was thinking, What if I use the Motorcycle setting, it probably will do lesse amps. DUGGGHH it does !!! I forgot to RTFM properly when I bought it because I hate motorbike.
I hate small cubic under 500cc motorbike which are in millions in my city and they are worst of the worst **** Azz-Holes motorist on the road and 99.99% are <125cc only.
I don't own a motorbike and I can't ride one, unless full automatic and in safe compound.

User manual stated 0.8 amps if in motorbike setting. Well right on target.







I decided to disconnect and tape off for safety the positive cable today. Make it super safe and not causing any parasitic draw.




I feel real .... today

 

5 amps won't hurt anything, and the charger will take care of the rest. Car stereo guys (like me) dump a continuous couple hundred amps into AGM, Lithium, some still use LA, all the time. I bulk charge new lithium batteries with a good 80 amps right up until float just to get them there as fast as possible. I don't have all day to sit around and watch batteries charge at 5 amps.

Why you say you hate motorbike? I just bought a Ducati!

 

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Nice bike my man. I like seeing nice bikes.


What I don't like is : small cc bikes in my country because the way they are driven. Super bad manners, bordering suicide and lunacy.

01. Against traffic flow illegally... yes they do that often.

Above is a 1 way road RHD cars, see the cars on the left. These azz-H on the right, the bikes are going opposite traffic


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I am using a Left Hand Drive car example, easier to understand for you guys.

02A. You are on the slowest lane already and moving slow like 5-15 MPH due to high traffic, they will overtake your car from your right ( based on LHD car ) and left too within the width lines on the road belonging to you.
Say you then want to turn to the right to enter a gas station, you brake to slow down and give you turn signal and you are already on the most right lane aka slowest lane proper to turn right. You then make the right turn naturally, the bike will then will hit your car from your right... yes, they will squeeze in like a rat swingin left and right and you can't track them on the rear view mirror.


02B. This is worse, pedestrian walkway being used by bike. This is a Right Hand Drive road. So we want to turn left to enter a building and no rear view mirror has the angle to cover pedestrian walkway and you will not expect bike to be there.

Above image is also a 2A condition. Those cars are already on the slowest lane ( at the left, RHD road ), but bike keep squeezing till they eat up your lane.
This is the most often time side rear view mirror got damaged and bikers simply ran off.
If traffic like above being creeping bumper to bumper, it is safer. The dangerous one in 2A is when you are moving 5-15 MPH and assume the road is yours and you being on the
slowest lane have all the right to turn LEFT (for me ) or turn RIGHT for USA.


This a video example of a guy who thinks his riding method is correct. See his english title. HOW TO RIDE SCOOTER IN VERY BAD TRAFFIC
This kind of people make us civilized car driver wonder, where are their brains ? Many azz car drivbers in Jakarta too, but King of Azz is always M-bikes.



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03A. Illegal U turn at ground level. Using a walkway opening for pedestrian, for his bike to do illegal U turn.



03B. Illegal U turn by using overhead bridge for pedestrian, for his bike.



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04A. Always move forward at traffic light stop ( from the back ) so that they become the first to take off from the traffic light and taking the right of pedestrian crossing zebra cross
They are so SMART, as such they passed the line and could not see the light turn green and we cars need to horn them Azz-H to move .. LOL



04B. Ignoring RED stop traffic light. In some areas they do this EVERYTIME. If we are the unlucky car who does not know the area, we will hit them because we are on GREEN light.


There are too many more crazy shi-et these mindless bikers do on the road. Its a pain to see them because in some areas CAR is always wrong vs bike.
BIG is bad, SMALL is the good one mentality. Car's driver can get beaten by local communities if they hit a bike, regardless the bike is at fault.



You have to experience it first hand to be awed by it in a disgusting manner. Its a typical 3rd world / developing country problem.
However, Jakarta City is one of the most populated city in the world population wise and vehicle wise, so worse shiet happens here on daily basis and since the last 15 years number 1 azz-H are the motorcyles.

 

Senecat,

I like being gentle on batteries.
I rely on them a lot for yachts I take care of, not only for starting battery bank but their worst duty is for DOMESTIC bank. Non AGM, just flooded mainly.
I have tried AGM as early as late 90s, bought DEKA brand imported from USA, what a troublesome affair. Made by East Penn I believed.
No big size lit-ion back then only on Sony camcorder you see Lit-Ion, still a Mini DV cassette format back then.

On yachts they are charged 24/7 365days a year. Either by shorepower at marina or diesel generator when on the move.
So charger choice in its size and intelligence matters.

In a twin engine ( most are ) yachts 2 of alternators and 1 or 2 of battery charger/s for engine starting and Domestic banks works together when on the move.
It does complicate things as most marine engine alternators are not so smart those days.

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You know I came across reputable yacht builders being the same case like my case on the Cetrek, never took the real time to RTFM ... LOL.
One American builder forgot that the optional alternator installed is an isolated ground version, common on yachts for galvanic corrossion prevention.
So no ground wire from alternator to battey bank was ever installed and all the 2 years of ownership of the 1st US owners, he did not know that too as the battery charger was always ON along with generator and HVAC.
So no dead battery issue for the 1st owner. Its a 1995 , 53 footer sportfishing yacht in Florida.
Only when my friend bought the yacht and I shipped it to Singapore and then sailed back it to Indonesia, I done proper checking only to learn the alternator never worked since day 1 ... LOL.
All it needs was a ground wire.


There is another funny one, a 112 footer Italian of a high level brand.
I was on board doing a simple visual check and also dove down to see the minor damaged propeller which hit a bamboo. So after the propeller dive, I went to the engine room to see its 24V DC system.
This yacht has lots of battery banks and is served by a 1-input 3-output electronic charge splitter for every charging source it has.
So there are 3 of this charge splitters, for 2 engine battery banks and 1 Electronic battery bank of the king kong MTU 4000 series engines.
2 alternator + 1 battery charger as charging sources. So each of these sources can charge all 3 banks while each banks are being isolated one from the other.


As-is 2nd Aug 2019. I told the co-owner who is a friend, I said the installation of the 3 charge splitters are not so correct.




27th August 2019 , I came back to the yacht to prove that the charge splitter is not working as well as it should.




See below, I connected an operational ground on the surviving 1 last unit during the test to confirm each and every's unit state of health.

2 Issues found. 2 units are dead at 1 or 2 of its 3 channels. And all 3 units were missing the operational ground wire ... LOL. This is a 2006 yacht.
I know why this missing operational ground wire is happening. The older version of charge splitters are dumb ones, no electronics , only high power diodes.
I am sure the worker in the ship builder are long time staff ( many are ) and quite old ( many are ) and they never assumed the newer charge splitters are electronic based one and only like 0.1volt drop, if installed correctly.


See below : Old technology. Simple DIODE ONLY with ,commonly 0.6Volt. drop.



Newer ones need operational ground cable, some other brand may even need Ignition +12/24V command to work.




Special order these charge splitters from Singapore and I re-install them by 11th Oct 2019 and I cleaned the whole freaking electric panel. I labeled all wires too.
Bad luck has it that of the 3 new ones, 1 has a leaky diode on channel A (top side output)...damn !!! So 1 old one plus 2 new ones all installed. The most right side one is the leaky one.
Leak can cause other battery banks to be NOT isolated, so no go...remove it from service.



So 1 old one re-installed. Old one has cracked plastic ends, so I blue tape them to prevent debris from entering.



Well, these SMART charge splitters will work as dumb DIODE only when the electronics are not working. Voltage drop 0.6V there about.
If the electronics are okey and running, I measured a respectable 0.1V drop and that matters a great deal to the overall state of charge for the battery banks and longevity of use.

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Another crazy *** Italian builder, famous one. 59 footer of year 2009.
A 10 kw electrical bow thruster wired from the Engine Start battery banks. This means all the MAN V8 900HP engine computers will get the bow thruster spike and noise.
I seen the electronic gear and throttle of yachts went banana from low voltage and hit another yacht as a result while manuvering in the marina, let alone low voltage and noise.

24V system. Inrush test and Running test of the Bow Thruster.


I re-wired the bow thruster to use the DOMESTIC battery bank. Not as easy as I thought it would be due to cable sizes and bus bar limited box size, but do able.
I can't re-wire the anchor WINDLASS to use DOMESTIC bank ( I would love too ) as the WINDLASS CONTROL Module at the Captain lower and upper helm is already using engine's ignition feed ( engine's Bat Bank ) and I don't want to tear apart
the side wall towards living room >>> kitchen >>> lower helm to get to those control wires.















So much for charging thingy..............

 

My favorite bike to date was my '06 ST3S (my Italian Mistress, her name was Tira Misu because she truly did lift me up). Sold it because SWMBO wouldn't climb on the big scary red fast bike. The BMW that replaced her is ... well... a fine piece of Teutonic engineering but does absolutely nothing to touch my soul. The Ducati did that, every damn time I climbed on and twisted it up. I miss her.

I can only imagine what that bike could do. Something on the order of Hunter S. Thompson's Song of the Sausage Creature, I suppose.