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Pretty good stuff. Same 3.0 V6TT in the SLC43 and C43 models but with more HP and torque. Interestingly, they focused more on amping up HP with the new turbochargers. Also looks like the V8's in the 550s are no more, as the V8 will be reserved for upper AMG models.
Everything else looks the same. Air suspension is an option for this 43, as opposed to the SLC and C classes. Interior is nice, like all the other engine models. I don't see pictures with the AMG steering wheel with alcantara, but that should be an option. Pictures include what looks to be night packaging.
A little typo I found, though the upcoming E43 coupe should be coming. I'm still happy with my C450, but maybe snagging the E43's turbos might happen later on
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Pretty good stuff. Same 3.0 V6TT in the SLC43 and C43 models but with more HP and torque. Interestingly, they focused more on amping up HP with the new turbochargers. Also looks like the V8's in the 550s are no more, as the V8 will be reserved for upper AMG models.
Everything else looks the same. Air suspension is an option for this 43, as opposed to the SLC and C classes. Interior is nice, like all the other engine models. I don't see pictures with the AMG steering wheel with alcantara, but that should be an option. Pictures include what looks to be night packaging.
A little typo I found, though the upcoming E43 coupe should be coming. I'm still happy with my C450, but maybe snagging the E43's turbos might happen later on
Absolutely stunning car - I would love to own one...too bad that it still has less hp than the 2012-2014 E550s.
But as per chart in http://www.carscoops.com/2016/03/new...ngs-396hp.html it will be a lot (by over 1/2 sec) quicker of the line (0-60). Do not know how it will do in 60-80 and 80-100 (this is where the 4.6 TT V8 really shines), but based on much quicker of the line performance, E43 should be at least as good at higher speeds.
Absolutely stunning car - I would love to own one...too bad that it still has less hp than the 2012-2014 E550s.
You guys really need to look at the actual car because 6 less hp means absolutely nothing here. The E43 is lighter, way better handling and has a far superior transmission. This car will likely smoke the E550 in every single measure. This oh it has less hp is really a silly argument at this point.
That looks pretty darn nice.. compared to the C450, it's odd that this newer E43, with 401bhp with the 9 speed tranny does 34 mpg, vs. the 29 on the C450..that's quite a pop just based on ratios.
In a C450 at 80 mph, I'm at about 2000 rpm.. how much lower could this be with a 9 speed, and heavier car and yet nearly 15% better mileage?
Looks very nice indeed. But I'd rather have the off the line performance without the extra AMG upfront cost and maintenance, insurance, etc. Like we had with the E550.
Hmmm. . . This is starting to look nice. Maybe by the time my 2015 is "fully consumed" I'll be ready to pull the trigger. I'll let some of the rest of you de-bug the first year or two of the W213 platform.
You guys really need to look at the actual car because 6 less hp means absolutely nothing here. The E43 is lighter, way better handling and has a far superior transmission. This car will likely smoke the E550 in every single measure. This oh it has less hp is really a silly argument at this point.
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I would expect the new generation car to be better in a lot of areas than the generation before. Otherwise, what is the point.
But, I think is better to not only look at the car, but to actually drive it.
That is why I would rather wait for the actual test drives(not just first drives) to truly being able to compare them.
When someone says way better handling without having actually driven the car, what does it mean? And what means way better anyways?
As for the far superior transmission, what makes it far superior, instead of, just saying superior?
As for saying, it will likely smoke the E550, what does it mean?
3ths of a second faster to 60 mph equals to smoke another car? or just a better trap speed? But how many more miles per hour will it be needed to say, smoked the other car? Braking numbers? grip?
The current E550 4matic takes 4.5s to 60 and has a 111 mph trap speed according to a magazine of the USA.
That is quite an achievement, so this new model has better deliver the goods in a big way to not only improve on those numbers, but to actually, smoke it. Or whatever that means in this specific situation.
I think we can be excited about this new model release, things are shaping up good so far. Nonetheless, I call upon restrain oneself, before we get ahead of ourselves too much.
I would expect the new generation car to be better in a lot of areas than the generation before. Otherwise, what is the point.
But, I think is better to not only look at the car, but to actually drive it.
That is why I would rather wait for the actual test drives(not just first drives) to truly being able to compare them.
When someone says way better handling without having actually driven the car, what does it mean? And what means way better anyways?
As for the far superior transmission, what makes it far superior, instead of, just saying superior?
As for saying, it will likely smoke the E550, what does it mean?
3ths of a second faster to 60 mph equals to smoke another car? or just a better trap speed? But how many more miles per hour will it be needed to say, smoked the other car? Braking numbers? grip?
The current E550 4matic takes 4.5s to 60 and has a 111 mph trap speed according to a magazine of the USA.
That is quite an achievement, so this new model has better deliver the goods in a big way to not only improve on those numbers, but to actually, smoke it. Or whatever that means in this specific situation.
I think we can be excited about this new model release, things are shaping up good so far. Nonetheless, I call upon restrain oneself, before we get ahead of ourselves too much.
Most of this is common sense. The 9G has gotten really good reviews in every other product so far. The E500 was not a sports sedan in any way, the E43 is so of course it will handle better. In other words it will corner flatter, be more stable and take corners much faster with more confidence. Smoke the E550 means the E43 will likely be faster in all measurable tests.
It's really quite simple. I agree we should wait and know more when it is driven, but do you really think an AMG massaged car won't improve upon an E550? Of course they will. It is utter nonsense IMO to be crying about 6 hp when the car does more than compensate for it.
trying to decide on picking up an S63 Sedan this year or an E63 when it comes out later this year / early next year. Wish we could get some info on it.
The published output of 401hp and 383tq from the upcoming E43's 3.0L TT is impressive. Add in the 29-34 hwy mpg and it's even better. Modern day turbos err biturbos are amazing bits of engineering. Plus it's got a historically cool model designation.
It makes complete sense to me the E43 will be sharper and faster than the E400, which seems to be good for ~4.9s to 62mph per some videos posted somewhere here on our forum. That's pretty good, but the E43 Jr. AMG has to be better or it'll be laughed out of the building ... and I'll bet anyone lunch that it will be.
I also think the new Jr. AMG will compare favorably to the recently departed E550. The M278 power plant with the "baby" factory tune (~20hp less than the S, SL, etc) consistently pushed it to 60mph in the low to mid-4s. As I agree with other posters the E43 will slot into this general neighborhood.
I wonder about two things that may conspire to slow the new E43. First, will the W213 E43's 9spd tranny require more shifts to hit 60 and the 1/4mi than the 7spd in the W212? Shifting means slower times. Second, will the torque to weight comparison be in favor of the lower torque but lower curb weight E43? Has anyone done this, yet? The hp to weight is already in favor of the newer E43.
(Assumption: If the M278 is indeed under-rated by Merc, I'm going to assume it'll be the same case with the 3.0L TT.)
The published output of 401hp and 383tq from the upcoming E43's 3.0L TT is impressive. Add in the 29-34 hwy mpg and it's even better. Modern day turbos err biturbos are amazing bits of engineering. Plus it's got a historically cool model designation.
It makes complete sense to me the E43 will be sharper and faster than the E400, which seems to be good for ~4.9s to 62mph per some videos posted somewhere here on our forum. That's pretty good, but the E43 Jr. AMG has to be better or it'll be laughed out of the building ... and I'll bet anyone lunch that it will be.
I also think the new Jr. AMG will compare favorably to the recently departed E550. The M278 power plant with the "baby" factory tune (~20hp less than the S, SL, etc) consistently pushed it to 60mph in the low to mid-4s. As I agree with other posters the E43 will slot into this general neighborhood.
I wonder about two things that may conspire to slow the new E43. First, will the W213 E43's 9spd tranny require more shifts to hit 60 and the 1/4mi than the 7spd in the W212? Shifting means slower times. Second, will the torque to weight comparison be in favor of the lower torque but lower curb weight E43? Has anyone done this, yet? The hp to weight is already in favor of the newer E43.
(Assumption: If the M278 is indeed under-rated by Merc, I'm going to assume it'll be the same case with the 3.0L TT.)
Let's not forget that this v6 will likely be underrated; you make excellent points
I think this e43 is gunna be sweet and is a brilliant addition to Benz, and I think it'll pull hard on the highway thanks to these extra gears
Gear shifting is pretty damn fast these days
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