E400 Sedan in US?
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As far as I know there will be no 400 in the US only the E43. Makes sense, a 400 version would dilute the E43 sales. I think that was the lesson learned from the C400. They hope that AMG cachet and slightly better performance will justify a bigger chunk of cash than they would get otherwise. Having driven both the 43 and 300 the difference in thrust is very blatantly obvious. That would not be the case between a 400 and a 43.
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As far as I know there will be no 400 in the US only the E43. Makes sense, a 400 version would dilute the E43 sales. I think that was the lesson learned from the C400. They hope that AMG cachet and slightly better performance will justify a bigger chunk of cash than they would get otherwise. Having driven both the 43 and 300 the difference in thrust is very blatantly obvious. That would not be the case between a 400 and a 43.
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The biggest difference between the C43 and E43 is a little more interior space particularly sideways. The E also rides better, it feels like it has more "substance" down the road. Otherwise, they are very similar. The also has the latest and greatest tech, you will find almost the same stuff on the C but half a gen behind. In general the E is more "refined" and "mature".
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Is there any update on this? When I spoke with my BMW salesman, he said he's sold several 540i's to former E class owners who wanted a 6 cylinder engine and couldn't get one in an E class sedan. Now, of course, there's the E43 AMG, but it comes at a steep premium over a 540i.
Has MB USA said anything about the launch of the E400 sedan with the 2018 models?
Has MB USA said anything about the launch of the E400 sedan with the 2018 models?
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Is there any update on this? When I spoke with my BMW salesman, he said he's sold several 541i's to former E class owners who wanted a 6 cylinder engine and couldn't get one in an E class sedan. Now, of course, there's the E43 AMB, but it comes at a steep premium over a 540i.
Has MB USA said anything about the launch of the E400 sedan with the 2018 models?
Has MB USA said anything about the launch of the E400 sedan with the 2018 models?
There will be no E 400 sedan. The 43 cars will get inline sixes maybe for 2019 models. Supposedly those will be labeled as 50 but that's not official.
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MB USA must be thinking that the bread-and-butter cars like the C class and E class sedans have to be 4-bangers so that they can meet the CAFE requirements. They can afford to keep some lower-volume premium-priced 6-cylinder (or 8) cars in their lineup without dragging down their CAFE numbers, but the big sellers have to be very fuel efficient.
BMW, on the other hand, has Mini to bring up its average, and they sell a lot of those, so BMW can afford offer 3 and 5 series sedans in 6-cylinder variants. Not that the 540i is a gas guzzler -- it gets 30MPG EPA on the highway.
I wonder how Jaguar will make its CAFE number. They have to sell a ton of 4-cylinder XE sedans to offset the mid-size XF's and the large XJ's.
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That's unfortunate since it leaves me with little choice but to go with a 540i.
MB USA must be thinking that the bread-and-butter cars like the C class and E class sedans have to be 4-bangers so that they can meet the CAFE requirements. They can afford to keep some lower-volume premium-priced 6-cylinder (or 8) cars in their lineup without dragging down their CAFE numbers, but the big sellers have to be very fuel efficient.
BMW, on the other hand, has Mini to bring up its average, and they sell a lot of those, so BMW can afford offer 3 and 5 series sedans in 6-cylinder variants. Not that the 540i is a gas guzzler -- it gets 30MPG EPA on the highway.
I wonder how Jaguar will make its CAFE number. They have to sell a ton of 4-cylinder XE sedans to offset the mid-size XF's and the large XJ's.
MB USA must be thinking that the bread-and-butter cars like the C class and E class sedans have to be 4-bangers so that they can meet the CAFE requirements. They can afford to keep some lower-volume premium-priced 6-cylinder (or 8) cars in their lineup without dragging down their CAFE numbers, but the big sellers have to be very fuel efficient.
BMW, on the other hand, has Mini to bring up its average, and they sell a lot of those, so BMW can afford offer 3 and 5 series sedans in 6-cylinder variants. Not that the 540i is a gas guzzler -- it gets 30MPG EPA on the highway.
I wonder how Jaguar will make its CAFE number. They have to sell a ton of 4-cylinder XE sedans to offset the mid-size XF's and the large XJ's.
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I eliminated the BMW 5 Series and bit the bullet on power due to BMW's glued on LCD similar to the C Class. In addition BMW does not support Android phones.
I'm looking forward to the wife's 2018 E300 grocery getter arriving in early August (July 1 build).
I'm looking forward to the wife's 2018 E300 grocery getter arriving in early August (July 1 build).
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Personally I prefer an E400 in Exclusive (classic grille) trim, simply because the E400 isn't as rough to drive as the E43. Power delivery is smoother and more luxurious than sporty.
Besides, an E400 in Exclusive trim is what I'm driving as well alongside a GLC43. Was originally debating whether to get an E43 in conjunction with a GLC350d, but ultimately decided to go the other way round and get a sporty SUV and a comfortable vehicle for heavy traffic.
So it's kinda sad that you guys in the US don't get the option of a comfortable 6-cylinder.
Besides, an E400 in Exclusive trim is what I'm driving as well alongside a GLC43. Was originally debating whether to get an E43 in conjunction with a GLC350d, but ultimately decided to go the other way round and get a sporty SUV and a comfortable vehicle for heavy traffic.
So it's kinda sad that you guys in the US don't get the option of a comfortable 6-cylinder.
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From what I've read the new inline 6cyl will not appear in the E class until 2019 US models. Many other substantial changes with it, such as 48v electrical system, electric water pump and air conditioning (beltless engine), and other new technologies may make it a good candidate to skip the first year of production.
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From what I've read the new inline 6cyl will not appear in the E class until 2019 US models. Many other substantial changes with it, such as 48v electrical system, electric water pump and air conditioning (beltless engine), and other new technologies may make it a good candidate to skip the first year of production.
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From what I've read the new inline 6cyl will not appear in the E class until 2019 US models. Many other substantial changes with it, such as 48v electrical system, electric water pump and air conditioning (beltless engine), and other new technologies may make it a good candidate to skip the first year of production.
Furthermore, from what I have read the move to in line configuration is not a performance move. Like the 2.0 turbo E class its a move for standardization of the powertrains, exhaust systems and other components through out the entire brand. Just like all MBs are now 9g tronic, the plans are to transition to electric "turbos" given the new 48V architecture.
