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grange3 04-05-2017 10:08 AM

Eco Off™ for Mercedes-Benz
 
Hi all,
Has any one tried this Eco Off™ for Mercedes-Benz E 2017 on there car yet from Mid City Engineering on there web site it is showing that
Mid City Engineering™ is now offering the only Eco Off™ solution available for your Mercedes Benz vehicle. The factory Eco feature defaults to the ‘On’ mode every time the vehicle is restarted- but not anymore.
With our all new Eco Off™ interface, Eco is set to ‘off’* upon vehicle start up, providing you complete control! Its $174.00

*Eco mode is not disabled and can still be used when desired.

If you are using this in your car please tell me how it is going for you.
cheers

Proeliator2001 04-05-2017 11:46 AM

174 dollars to save pressing a button by your thigh on the few trips where the stop start may annoy you! Even i draw the line at that level of laziness and i, I'm sure this is oxymoronic, work hard to be lazy!

grange3 04-05-2017 12:13 PM

Maybe i have more than a few million $ so $174 is no big deal but the question was
"If you are using this in your car please tell me how it is going for you".
So please stay on topic why is there always one smart a55 in every group
By the way Mid City Engineering dose not ship to Australia just for your info.....

Proeliator2001 04-05-2017 12:22 PM

Not being smart and money in the bank doesn't feature in my view that spending money to do such a minor change, which could also invalidate warranty, seems ridiculously nuggatory.

grange3 04-05-2017 12:54 PM

"which could also invalidate warranty" maybe it would maybe it would not its all irreverent if any one wants it they will go and buy
it let people do how they please in the end it's always your choice how and what you do.

Proeliator2001 04-05-2017 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7106770)
"if any one wants it they will go and buy it

So go buy it then.

grange3 04-05-2017 01:24 PM

Mid City Engineering dose not ship to Australia.
just wanted to know if any one had this in their car and how was working for them.......

arnsbrae 04-05-2017 01:53 PM

In the UK, my car defaults to Comfort mode...

petee1997 04-05-2017 03:16 PM

I don't know why some people must always try to reinvent the wheel.

c4004matic 04-05-2017 03:22 PM

I hated the auto start stop in the beginning. Now, I like it. You get used to it. MB's system is one, if not the smoothest in the market.

Proeliator2001 04-05-2017 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7106810)
Mid City Engineering dose not ship to Australia.
just wanted to know if any one had this in their car and how was working for them.......

Plenty of places like outfit, gets around domestic shipping issues

https://www.reship.com/#/

grange3 04-07-2017 04:12 AM

I have had the auto start stop in three cars now I hated it from day one still hate it now. The way i look at it is you do not have to accept anything in life just because its there Benz or not if i can find a way around it i just try and see how it works out if it works the way i want great if not you are back were you started from and what have you lost sweet F.A.....It's always your choice how and what you do.I always take full responsibility for my actions what ever they maybe.I am sure no one can get uptight about this just relax and enjoy your car i do but i do it my way......:zoom:

Diesel Benz 04-07-2017 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7108874)
....It's always your choice how and what you do.I always take full responsibility for my actions what ever they maybe.I am sure no one can get uptight about this just relax and enjoy your car i do but i do it my way......:zoom:

Sorry but you have to understand the above is not correct at all. There are many things you cannot take responsibility of like you claim. Please explain how you are going to compensate for the rest of the world your exceeded share of emissions?

I don't like the Stop-Start system either, the part that you cannot set it off by default.

grange3 04-07-2017 12:22 PM

How am i going compensate for the rest of the world for exceeded share of emissions that simple just by stop B.S. to myself and the rest of the world like some that say that they care a then go and buy a BENZ if you really care for the share of emissions you push out you would have an electric car or at the least a nice little smart car or such not the new E class w213 like you do. I all always take full responsibility for my actions not just when it makes us feel good to tell others what they should or should not do.By the way what size is the motor in you car again Mr Diesel Benz ?

petee1997 04-07-2017 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7109195)
How am i going compensate for the rest of the world for exceeded share of emissions that simple just by stop B.S. to myself and the rest of the world like some that say that they care a then go and buy a BENZ if you really care for the share of emissions you push out you would have an electric car or at the least a nice little smart car or such not the new E class w213 like you do. I all always take full responsibility for my actions not just when it makes us feel good to tell others what they should or should not do.By the way what size is the motor in you car again Mr Diesel Benz ?

Obviously you do not like rules. Aren't you the same guy that reconfigured your dash screen to watch TV while driving? Some people cannot conform to the greater good. It's all about me, me me. Sad!

grange3 04-07-2017 12:58 PM

All i wanted to know was if any one had the Mid City Engineering Eco Off how was it working out for them.
now little boys and girls lets all stay on topic.
YES reconfigured my dash screen to watch TV while driving for Australia football and cricket funny this was about the Mid City Engineering Eco Off
and yes its all about me me me ....... next you will tell me how you never drive you Benz to save emissions if your talking about the greater good for all
of humanity.:rolf:
By the way it's not what the rules say that is important it's what the rules do not say that is more import.

Cao Black 04-07-2017 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7109195)
How am i going compensate for the rest of the world for exceeded share of emissions that simple just by stop B.S. to myself and the rest of the world like some that say that they care a then go and buy a BENZ if you really care for the share of emissions you push out you would have an electric car or at the least a nice little smart car or such not the new E class w213 like you do. I all always take full responsibility for my actions not just when it makes us feel good to tell others what they should or should not do.By the way what size is the motor in you car again Mr Diesel Benz ?

Here are a couple of articles about Eco Stop/Start from Edmunds. Apparently the system does help with fuel economy and emissions in certain situations. No doubt the saving are much more important to car manufacturers in helping meet regulations than to individual drivers.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/...save-fuel.html

https://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy...-low-cost.html

And another article (you be the judge).

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/a...-not.html?_r=0

I have had it on two E series. Don't care much for it in my particular driving use, and usually turn it off. I would love to have MB give me the choice to permanently shut it off, but they don't. I believe some BMWs do. I do find it funny some people criticize the desire to turn off Eco Stop/Start, but vigorously defend their right to drive cars with bigger engines and worse fuel economy. Who's saving the planet now??

Sadly no one seems able to answer your original question (before veering off topic), and there are no reviews on the manufacturer's web site. Looks like the product here in USA is sold through dealers. Maybe one of them would be able to ship to you if you decide to buy. Good luck.

grange3 04-07-2017 01:55 PM

Hi Cao Black,
Thank for your post all i wanted was a simple answer to my simple questions at least you read my 1st post and saw it for what it is
just a question about Mid City Engineering offering the only Eco Off
that is on the market that i could fined..... like you i would like MB give me the choice to permanently shut it off or at least have it so it defaults to off if you want thanks again for your time and with your answer i appreciate your help.
cheers

ua549 04-07-2017 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7109195)
How am i going compensate for the rest of the world for exceeded share of emissions that simple just by stop B.S. to myself and the rest of the world like some that say that they care a then go and buy a BENZ if you really care for the share of emissions you push out you would have an electric car or at the least a nice little smart car or such not the new E class w213 like you do.

Actually electric cars pollute more than conventional combustion cars when one considers the fossil fuel power plant emissions and the much larger level of emissions from the manufacturing and decommissioning processes.

dieseldoc 04-07-2017 04:44 PM

+1

Proeliator2001 04-07-2017 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by ua549 (Post 7109461)
Actually electric cars pollute more than conventional combustion cars when one considers the fossil fuel power plant emissions and the much larger level of emissions from the manufacturing and decommissioning processes.

Depends where you live. US gets a little under 35% of is electricity from renewable or nuclear energy, UK gets a little over 45%, a figure which continues to grow. Iceland is entirely renewable, a goal a lot of countries aspire to.

In the UK and most likely in most mixed energy source open markets you can buy your home energy from companies who trade only in clean energy. So you can, theoretically, run an electric car without creating emissions. Of course production costs will be higher in terms of energy but again, in countries with high clean energy mixes that's not such an impact anymore. And a lot of our is harvestable at the end.

I remember stories about the Prius life cycle cost being worse then gas guzzling offroaders but technology and design has moved on.

grange3 04-07-2017 06:28 PM

Hi ua549,
what about nice little smart car. I think you have be watching to much Top Gear and getting your scientific reports from Jeremy Clarkson with Richard Hammond and James May great show love the why they talk about the range rover as i have had a few in between merc's thanks for your report great work..:rolf::rolf::rolf:

suzy_utexas 05-19-2018 03:27 PM

It does not work. Rendered the car inoperable.

ua549 05-19-2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7109560)
Hi ua549,
what about nice little smart car. I think you have be watching to much Top Gear and getting your scientific reports from Jeremy Clarkson with Richard Hammond and James May great show love the why they talk about the range rover as i have had a few in between merc's thanks for your report great work..:rolf::rolf::rolf:

I'm not familiar with Top Gear or the people you mentioned. That said nuclear energy is not pollution free as many would believe. Just ask the folks that are/were impacted by the Fukishima or Three Mile Island disasters. Then there is the issue of disposing of spent nuclear fuel, a huge pollutant. According to the US EIA stats for 2017 the US produces about 15.5% of its power from non-polluting sources - hydro, wind, solar and geothermal. Most consumers in the US do not have a choice of the source for their electricity because the providers have regional monopoly.

CarFan1 05-19-2018 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by grange3 (Post 7109340)
Hi Cao Black,
Thank for your post all i wanted was a simple answer to my simple questions at least you read my 1st post and saw it for what it is
just a question about Mid City Engineering offering the only Eco Off
that is on the market that i could fined..... like you i would like MB give me the choice to permanently shut it off or at least have it so it defaults to off if you want thanks again for your time and with your answer i appreciate your help.
cheers

I had it installed in my car two days after purchase. One of my colleagues who bought his W213 two months before me was riding with me recently and asked why mine didn't shut off in such an abrupt manner the way his does. When I explained that I had the Eco-off installed he was sold and had one ordered one for himself before the day was over. It works perfectly. Each time the car starts in comfort mode. If you have a 2017 you can also program it to start in Individual mode as well. Any time you wish to have eco-mode on you can select it. And you can reset it at any point to return to auto-stop at any point.


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