E43 Winter Tires
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'18 E43 AMG FINALLY HERE! '02 E320 4matic wagon
E43 Winter Tires
It’s that time of year again! The leaves fall and the temperature does the same. I’m doing research on what winter tire to use for my ‘18 E43. Unfortunately I seem to have a big problem.
I have the 20 inch wheels. I haven’t been able to find a single winter tire that matches all of the MB oem specs (load rating, speed rating, etc.). Anyone have any help? Thanks in advance!
I have the 20 inch wheels. I haven’t been able to find a single winter tire that matches all of the MB oem specs (load rating, speed rating, etc.). Anyone have any help? Thanks in advance!
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Thanks for your input but I am looking to see if anything will work on the 20inch rims. Downsizing is always an option, but I would rather not. Similarly, I don't think that 18's fit over the AMG brake calipers. I would probably be 19s.
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Best bet is to check out Tirerack for winter tire wheel combo - did that for previous E55 and S63 and was very happy in both cases. Just need a place (garage etc0 to store the stock wheels.
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Visit tire rack for available options, there are not many at all. Though UA is correct in recommending 18's I went with 19 in as well. I opted for the run flat sottorezo winter which are high performance rated (much better on cold dry conditions). They are expensive as hell, almost 400 each. Even with aftermarket rims (only one choice) I ended up with $2800 bill. However compared with mercedes 18 in OEM rims, it was still a steal, with MB rims it would have been almost 5K.
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Visit tire rack for available options, there are not many at all. Though UA is correct in recommending 18's I went with 19 in as well. I opted for the run flat sottorezo winter which are high performance rated (much better on cold dry conditions). They are expensive as hell, almost 400 each. Even with aftermarket rims (only one choice) I ended up with $2800 bill. However compared with mercedes 18 in OEM rims, it was still a steal, with MB rims it would have been almost 5K.
Also, thanks for being so active on these forums. Great to have the community helping each other out!
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For the 19 inch their configurator only showed the Hannover Quad at about 200 each plus 50 for tpms. Im sure there are other options out there but you have to be careful since though the rims may be the same size, the offset may not. I really trust tire rack since they have served me well many times. Another plus is that hannover come in 3 colors, they gray matching nicely with my gray flat paint. My tire shop already has then but I'm not installing till next week.
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Rim offsets for E43 vary by tire size. Bolt pattern 5x112, thread size M14x1.5 and center bore 66.6 are the same for all wheels.
245/40ZR19 / 275/30ZR19 8Jx19 ET20 / 9Jx19 ET49
245/40ZR19 / 245/40ZR19 8Jx19 ET20 / 8Jx19 ET43
245/35ZR20 / 275/30ZR20 8Jx20 ET20 / 9Jx20 ET49
245/40ZR19 / 275/30ZR19 8Jx19 ET20 / 9Jx19 ET49
245/40ZR19 / 245/40ZR19 8Jx19 ET20 / 8Jx19 ET43
245/35ZR20 / 275/30ZR20 8Jx20 ET20 / 9Jx20 ET49
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In the linked pdf you can see what MB actually approves for your car.
The pdf is in german but kan be translated with google translate or your preferred translating service.
It's correct that you will need at least 19" rims from what I can read.
https://m.mercedes-benz.de/content/m...mbi_170216.pdf
The pdf is in german but kan be translated with google translate or your preferred translating service.
It's correct that you will need at least 19" rims from what I can read.
https://m.mercedes-benz.de/content/m...mbi_170216.pdf
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Thanks!
In the linked pdf you can see what MB actually approves for your car.
The pdf is in german but kan be translated with google translate or your preferred translating service.
It's correct that you will need at least 19" rims from what I can read.
https://m.mercedes-benz.de/content/m...mbi_170216.pdf
The pdf is in german but kan be translated with google translate or your preferred translating service.
It's correct that you will need at least 19" rims from what I can read.
https://m.mercedes-benz.de/content/m...mbi_170216.pdf
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I have a problem with my winter rims to my E43 AMG, Im looking for 19' ones but in my country its really hard to get anyone. Can you tell me if any of these will fit on the car?
https://www.wheelmachine2000.de/shop...amg-112-5.html I already have the Michelin PA5 XL 245/40/R19 prepared to put on. MB dealer have offered me one rims, but they don't know when they will be available.
https://www.wheelmachine2000.de/shop...amg-112-5.html I already have the Michelin PA5 XL 245/40/R19 prepared to put on. MB dealer have offered me one rims, but they don't know when they will be available.
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I have a problem with my winter rims to my E43 AMG, Im looking for 19' ones but in my country its really hard to get anyone. Can you tell me if any of these will fit on the car?
https://www.wheelmachine2000.de/shop...amg-112-5.html I already have the Michelin PA5 XL 245/40/R19 prepared to put on. MB dealer have offered me one rims, but they don't know when they will be available.
https://www.wheelmachine2000.de/shop...amg-112-5.html I already have the Michelin PA5 XL 245/40/R19 prepared to put on. MB dealer have offered me one rims, but they don't know when they will be available.
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This is a easy one. Stick with your 20's if you want. Go with the Blizzack LM-32 and enjoy. Literally the best winter tires I've ever run. They were designed originally for Aston Martin. I've been running them on a 500hp Jaguar in Wisconsin on 20in wheels for two seasons now and couldn't be happier.
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Thanks for the help guys. Ended up staying on the 20's and added the older Pirelli Sottozero Serie II. They were the only, I repeat, the ONLY winter tire that fit the 20 inch rims.
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Also in Mpls. just in time for the snow
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I have found the Sottozero Serie II on European websites but cannot get any of the companies in Europe to respond to emails asking for a price to ship them to New York.
Tirerack recommended the Michelin PA4 but that is a non-run flat option.
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Unfortunately it is what it is, when you have a low volume car choces are few. I have found the sottozeros to be a very good cold season high performace tire. The snow performace is satisfactory, thus, its a tradeoff. One thing I have figured out is that they are very, very directional in the snow, that is, snow traction is very good in a forward direction but in reverse not so much. Futhermore, on the 43, the rear bias, which is mostly transparent on dry conditions, becomes obvious.
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where did you find the Sottozero Serie II in a run flat? I have been searching everywhere and cannot find them. Tirerack told me that they were discontinued by Pirelli which i confirmed by calling the Pirelli distributor in Georgia. Any help would be appreciated as i have been told the only way to get this tire is from a supplier who has them in stock. I drive too much to take the risk of installing a non-run flat tire.
I have found the Sottozero Serie II on European websites but cannot get any of the companies in Europe to respond to emails asking for a price to ship them to New York.My
Tirerack recommended the Michelin PA4 but that is a non-run flat option.
I have found the Sottozero Serie II on European websites but cannot get any of the companies in Europe to respond to emails asking for a price to ship them to New York.My
Tirerack recommended the Michelin PA4 but that is a non-run flat option.
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Unfortunately it is what it is, when you have a low volume car choces are few. I have found the sottozeros to be a very good cold season high performace tire. The snow performace is satisfactory, thus, its a tradeoff. One thing I have figured out is that they are very, very directional in the snow, that is, snow traction is very good in a forward direction but in reverse not so much. Futhermore, on the 43, the rear bias, which is mostly transparent on dry conditions, becomes obvious.
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Im ok with the lower snow traction but I have to relearn that the snow traction limits are lower. On the other hand they are superb for a "certified" snow tire as far as handling, noise, comfort are concerned. I have a "standard" snow tire test, I wait for 2 inches of snow and drive to the closest hill which has about a 35% incline about 1/8 mile long. I stop half way and climb the rest of the way from a stop. The Pirellis passed perfectly. They do meet the expectatios that their snow traction is way superior to any all season tire just not as good as hard core snow tires. As anyone who lives in snow country, snow is a loose word, there are many different types of frozen precipitation on which a particular snow tire may excel or not. A good example is solid ice which in my experience blizzaks fare the best, tires that don't have their "microcell" structure (spongy rubber) don't do as well, but, that also makes them loud and fairly bad in dry cold conditions I hate how they handle and feel. The X ice is an in between and of course the sottos are the sportiest of all.
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