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I'm considering a road trip in the E300. In order to extend the range to a full day of driving I want to have a higher capacity fuel tank. Will the E43 88 liter tank fit an E300 with its 66 liter tank without messing up the fuel gauge? That 1/3 capacity increase is a critical range increase for my trip planning.
I'm considering a road trip in the E300. In order to extend the range to a full day of driving I want to have a higher capacity fuel tank. Will the E43 88 liter tank fit an E300 with its 66 liter tank without messing up the fuel gauge? That 1/3 capacity increase is a critical range increase for my trip planning.
Are you kidding? You’re willing to go that length not to stop for gas? Wow! Why not stick a diesel in there temporarily if you’re going to be that insane.? No offense.
Diesels are not available in the US. Many of the places in the West and Northern mountain states (think Nevada/Utah or Montana/Idaho) where I traveled in my old road car are several hundred miles between fuel stops. Even in South Florida driving through Everglades National Park on FL 9336 is both scenic and very slow going (expect 16-20 mpg in the E300). One can fuel at either Naples on the West or Florida City on the East. Here a tank of fuel must last for the entire trip.
Diesels are not available in the US. Many of the places in the West and Northern mountain states (think Nevada/Utah or Montana/Idaho) where I traveled in my old road car are several hundred miles between fuel stops. Even in South Florida driving through Everglades National Park on FL 9336 is both scenic and very slow going (expect 16-20 mpg in the E300). One can fuel at either Naples on the West or Florida City on the East. Here a tank of fuel must last for the entire trip.
you can find a used diesel. It’s just not worth the expense.
Good Luck, with my 82-year of urine bladder I have no need for extended range.
My problem is draining the "sump" about every 90 minutes.
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If you are talking gasoline, as opposed to diesel, think fo the gasoline as a time bomb that can blow up easily.
A demonstration in a boat owners class showed lighting a match at the end of an empty tube several feet away from gasoline caused the gasoline to blow up.
Made a "believer" out of me.
Also, circa 1979-79, some people simply carried one or two 5-gallon fuel cans in their trunks. Messy to poor and somewhat dangerous in case of a collision/roll over etc.
Diesels are not available in the US. Many of the places in the West and Northern mountain states (think Nevada/Utah or Montana/Idaho) where I traveled in my old road car are several hundred miles between fuel stops. Even in South Florida driving through Everglades National Park on FL 9336 is both scenic and very slow going (expect 16-20 mpg in the E300). One can fuel at either Naples on the West or Florida City on the East. Here a tank of fuel must last for the entire trip.
I live in the rural west and often drive far from main roads or big cities. But I doubt you can drivel several hundred miles without deliberately skipping fuel stops. Even driving all the way across Nevada and part of Utah (Reno to SLC) is just over 500 miles. So unless you have a personal challenge to skip gas stations in some particular state, I bet your normal tank range (at least 300 miles) can safely get you where you want to go.
Will the E43 88 liter tank fit an E300 with its 66 liter tank without messing up the fuel gauge? That 1/3 capacity increase is a critical range increase for my trip planning.
The increase in capacity is less than you would expect, the large fuel tank is 80 liters, not 88.
The increase in capacity is less than you would expect, the large fuel tank is 80 liters, not 88.
This is another of those Mercedes-ism's that makes me scratch my head. If in fact the larger fuel tank (necessary for those that don't get the fuel economy of the much-maligned 4 banger turbo) will fit without any other modifications, why not just put it in all E300 sedans? Would be nice to have it, but can't fathom being worth the expense of swapping.
There is an issue in some countries with increased taxes as a result of a large fuel tank, this due to a higher total weight when the fuel tank is full. As a result of a larger fuel tank the emissions will also in some cases be higher and result in higher taxes for emissions.
I live in the rural west and often drive far from main roads or big cities. But I doubt you can drivel several hundred miles without deliberately skipping fuel stops. Even driving all the way across Nevada and part of Utah (Reno to SLC) is just over 500 miles. So unless you have a personal challenge to skip gas stations in some particular state, I bet your normal tank range (at least 300 miles) can safely get you where you want to go.
The E300 tank is quite small. After allowing for reserves it holds about 15 gallons. I've never come close to 300 miles on a tank of fuel. After driving the E300 for 7 months my overall mileage is about 18 mpg (rarely out of 4th gear) with a range between fueling stops of about 275 miles when the fuel reserve light comes on. Driving through the everglades I estimate that mileage will drop to about 15 mpg (typically 3rd or 4th gear) giving a range of 225 miles. Round trip through Everglades National Park on FL 9336 can take several days with no fueling stops in the park. Some beautiful places such as Royal Palm Visitor Center or Long Pine Key are at the end of a very long dead end sandy tracks. A comfortable range when visiting the park is about 400 miles or 26+ gallons of fuel. Though I have used jerry cans strapped to the outside of a WWII surplus Jeep, it is neither a comfortable nor desirable way to travel.
I wouldn't take I-80 from Reno to Salt Lake City unless I was in a hurry going from point A to point B. I'd probably start on US50 in order to see the countryside and the small towns.
There is an issue in some countries with increased taxes as a result of a large fuel tank, this due to a higher total weight when the fuel tank is full. As a result of a larger fuel tank the emissions will also in some cases be higher and result in higher taxes for emissions.
I am aware that there appears to be a "range" standard. I can't say if by agreement, consumer demand or regulation, but it seems like 400 miles currently.. The skeptic in me want to challenge the extra emissions claim since fuel systems are closed these days. Extra weight on the road? How the heck could you possible calculate that with any accuracy. It presupposes that everyone will operate with a full tank and thereby add 20-25 lbs of extra weight. Alternatively, smaller tanks means more frequent fill ups which in turn means more deliveries of fuel in trucks that weigh lots more than cars. Having said all that, you are probably right, because MB is certainly smart enough to not use two different parts when one would do.
Really? Can you explain why more frequent fill ups will result in more deliveries of fuel in trucks?
This is of course not true, as the consumption will be approx. the same with a smaller fuel tank (actually a bit less, but this is impossible to calculate for most people)
Really? Can you explain why more frequent fill ups will result in more deliveries of fuel in trucks?
This is of course not true, as the consumption will be approx. the same with a smaller fuel tank (actually a bit less, but this is impossible to calculate for most people)
Yeah, that logic is a little out there. All it means is that there's more fill ups at the gas station. Same number of trucks making fuel deliveries.
Anyway if the newer tank only yields 14 extra liters of fuel, that works out to only 3.7 extra gallons so it'd probably be cheaper just to carry an extra 5/6 gallon gas can. As other said though, it may stink of gas though.
Also in terms of cost, when the W211 had bad gas tanks, the price of swapping a gas tank at the dealer was typically around 4k as the fuel pump/filter was all part of the tank.
I understand your point. Here is mine.
After excluding reserves the E300 has a capacity of 15 gallons or 7 fueling trips for 105 gallons of fuel. A car with 25 gallons usable (my ideal size) needs 4 fueling trips for 100 gallons of fuel. The big variable is how far is it to a Top Tier fueling point such as a Shell station with V-Power Plus Nitro fuel. All else being equal a car with a smaller tank will require more fuel because of the extra miles driven to refuel more often. I live in town now so fuel is within 5 miles (3 extra round trips=30 miles) but one of my previous residences was more than 20 miles away from any fuel let alone a Shell station (3 extra round trips=120 miles).
My fuel consumption is 50% less with the smaller tank because the car isn't used as much as it otherwise would be if it had better range. My E300 is currently the city only sedan. With better range it could also be used for road trips.
The E300 tank is quite small. After allowing for reserves it holds about 15 gallons. I've never come close to 300 miles on a tank of fuel. After driving the E300 for 7 months my overall mileage is about 18 mpg (rarely out of 4th gear) with a range between fueling stops of about 275 miles when the fuel reserve light comes on. Driving through the everglades I estimate that mileage will drop to about 15 mpg (typically 3rd or 4th gear) giving a range of 225 miles. Round trip through Everglades National Park on FL 9336 can take several days with no fueling stops in the park. Some beautiful places such as Royal Palm Visitor Center or Long Pine Key are at the end of a very long dead end sandy tracks. A comfortable range when visiting the park is about 400 miles or 26+ gallons of fuel. Though I have used jerry cans strapped to the outside of a WWII surplus Jeep, it is neither a comfortable nor desirable way to travel.
I wouldn't take I-80 from Reno to Salt Lake City unless I was in a hurry going from point A to point B. I'd probably start on US50 in order to see the countryside and the small towns.
I'm in the UK and have a 220d. I Get about 570-600 miles from a tank if doing purely urban stop start driving, if doing more long trips I can get around 700, from the same 66L tank. It's a lot more refined than the old 2.1, and has good torque, it's a shame you can't get this engine in USA
Even if the diesel was available in the US I wouldn't have bought it. IMO the E300 is extremely under powered. Unfortunately the E400 was not available when I made my purchase. AMG's are too rough riding for me so the E43 was out.
The E300 tank is quite small. After allowing for reserves it holds about 15 gallons. I've never come close to 300 miles on a tank of fuel. After driving the E300 for 7 months my overall mileage is about 18 mpg (rarely out of 4th gear) with a range between fueling stops of about 275 miles when the fuel reserve light comes on. Driving through the everglades I estimate that mileage will drop to about 15 mpg (typically 3rd or 4th gear) giving a range of 225 miles. Round trip through Everglades National Park on FL 9336 can take several days with no fueling stops in the park. Some beautiful places such as Royal Palm Visitor Center or Long Pine Key are at the end of a very long dead end sandy tracks. A comfortable range when visiting the park is about 400 miles or 26+ gallons of fuel. Though I have used jerry cans strapped to the outside of a WWII surplus Jeep, it is neither a comfortable nor desirable way to travel.
I wouldn't take I-80 from Reno to Salt Lake City unless I was in a hurry going from point A to point B. I'd probably start on US50 in order to see the countryside and the small towns.
I regularly get over 400+ miles per tank on my E43, I think you must have a hole in your tank somewhere. The 300 should be averaging as much if not more even with its smaller tank.
I regularly get over 400+ miles per tank on my E43, I think you must have a hole in your tank somewhere. The 300 should be averaging as much if not more even with its smaller tank.
The car rarely gets past 4th gear - 30 mph. In the 7 months I've had the car the overall mileage is 18 mpg which includes city and some suburban miles. The trip I'm planning through Everglades National Park will have speeds will be in the 20-25 mph range mostly on 2 lane asphalt and 1 lane sand and shell roads. I figure 225 miles per tank plus reserves. I'd be comfortable with a 300 mile range. There are no fuel stops in the Everglades.
I have a 2018 E400 sedan and it comes with the larger gas tank, 21 gallons. Seems like the tank size is based on a mileage range. The E300 gets better gas mileage so tank can be a little smaller.
I have a 2018 E400 sedan and it comes with the larger gas tank, 21 gallons. Seems like the tank size is based on a mileage range. The E300 gets better gas mileage so tank can be a little smaller.
That's assuming one gets mileage near what the specs call for, not 15 mpg traveling at 20 to 30 mph over extended distances. That said I've canceled the trip through the Everglades because of fueling issues.
I had a digital display in my last car a 2014 640i vert- but- it didn't have a powerful enough graphics processor such that it could do anything other than display a circular speedometer and tach using pixels. This just made them harder to see in direct sunlight.
Now our new Audi Q5 has a digital display none right, imho, because it has an NVIDIA processor that permits views like the attached. If you can't do something like this, whats the point of an LCD circular speedometer? (again, my opinion).
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