Reasonable discount over MSRP for 2019 Amg E 53
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Reasonable discount over MSRP for 2019 Amg E 53
what should I expect as reasonable discount from dealers if I order 2019 AMG E53 ? Thanks
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There must be very little interest in the E53 if Bay Area dealerships are discounting these first few build slots already... I'd be happy with 5% if I wanted an E53, but I wouldn't buy one of those quite frankly... I would go for either the E450 or the E63S depending on the type of car I wanted. Just my personal view...
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If they aren't discounted in the Orlando market, then I'm even more shocked that they are now discounted in the Bay Area market.
A few arrived already, but they'll be sitting at the VPC for a long time. The current release date is sometime in October.
A few arrived already, but they'll be sitting at the VPC for a long time. The current release date is sometime in October.
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There must be very little interest in the E53 if Bay Area dealerships are discounting these first few build slots already... I'd be happy with 5% if I wanted an E53, but I wouldn't buy one of those quite frankly... I would go for either the E450 or the E63S depending on the type of car I wanted. Just my personal view...
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New model with a new power train is one reason - problems are likely. A more important reason is that it doesn't offer good value for the money. It's significantly more expensive than the E450, but only a little more powerful. It's not clear what all that extra money buys. If you want a comfortable and powerful E-Class, just get the E450. The E53 has only a little more power, and the ride won't be nearly as comfortable (assuming it's similar to the E43). If you want a truly sporty E-Class with a big power increase, get the E63S. The E450 and E63S give you the ultimate in the two flavors of the E-Class, so I would pick between those two. I don't like paying for something (like the E53 and the E43 before that) where I don't see where the extra money goes.
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I would differentiate that a bit...
In terms of engine, it's a no-brainer. The new inline 6 is a dramatically better engine vs the old V6. While it is new to the US, the engine has been put into a lot of cars (100K plus so far) as it's been around in the rest of the world for a year. There is no downside to this engine with the exception that the driving experience is considered very unemotional (for an AMG). In CLS flavor, the 53 was better than the Panamera 4S. Forget about HP, the power delivery is very linear with truly non-existent turbo lag. If anyone likes ECO Start/Stop (I don't), it is also imperceptible due to the e-start.
That said, a decision for the 53 has little to do with HP. It is about costs, comfort and design.
1. Financial. If leased, MF and residuals matters. In the past, the E43 was heavily subsidized (higher residual and lower MF) This was very un-AMG-like. This can offset some pricing difference and should be a consideration.
2. Suspension will be firmer no matter what. A test drive in all settings and different road surfaces is essential.
3. Personal taste. Based on importance, they may overrule pricing...
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I disagree. I wish I had waited for the E53. I have the 18 E43. The E53 has the new in line 6cyl with 48 volt system that gives you an extra 22 hp of boost plus 429 hp. The E450 has the old V6 engine retuned to 362 hp that is currently in the E400. If you can get one for 5% discount, go for it.
I love my E43 with air suspension. It has a great ride and good power but the E53 offers all that plus more power and the latest technology. Within the next five years all cars will be like the E53 48 volts system with no parasite belts sucking power from the engine. Buy the future and not the past.
PS Your only problem is Trump. He is thinking of adding a 25% tariff on all imported cars. I do not have the audacity to offer my opinion on Mr. Trump.
I love my E43 with air suspension. It has a great ride and good power but the E53 offers all that plus more power and the latest technology. Within the next five years all cars will be like the E53 48 volts system with no parasite belts sucking power from the engine. Buy the future and not the past.
PS Your only problem is Trump. He is thinking of adding a 25% tariff on all imported cars. I do not have the audacity to offer my opinion on Mr. Trump.
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I disagree. I wish I had waited for the E53. I have the 18 E43. The E53 has the new in line 6cyl with 48 volt system that gives you an extra 22 hp of boost plus 429 hp. The E450 has the old V6 engine retuned to 362 hp that is currently in the E400. If you can get one for 5% discount, go for it.
I love my E43 with air suspension. It has a great ride and good power but the E53 offers all that plus more power and the latest technology. Within the next five years all cars will be like the E53 48 volts system with no parasite belts sucking power from the engine. Buy the future and not the past.
PS Your only problem is Trump. He is thinking of adding a 25% tariff on all imported cars. I do not have the audacity to offer my opinion on Mr. Trump.
I love my E43 with air suspension. It has a great ride and good power but the E53 offers all that plus more power and the latest technology. Within the next five years all cars will be like the E53 48 volts system with no parasite belts sucking power from the engine. Buy the future and not the past.
PS Your only problem is Trump. He is thinking of adding a 25% tariff on all imported cars. I do not have the audacity to offer my opinion on Mr. Trump.
Btw, what post were you disagreeing with?
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OP- I dont think you should have the mindset to get any significant discount on an order. The only reason a dealer will discount an order is so you don't order at another dealer. When you buy a car off the lot, your helping the dealer move inventory.....they will be more open to discounting
And second, its a brand new model, they dont discount new releases....... for example a G63 you might pay up for one
And second, its a brand new model, they dont discount new releases....... for example a G63 you might pay up for one
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OP- I dont think you should have the mindset to get any significant discount on an order. The only reason a dealer will discount an order is so you don't order at another dealer. When you buy a car off the lot, your helping the dealer move inventory.....they will be more open to discounting
And second, its a brand new model, they dont discount new releases....... for example a G63 you might pay up for one
And second, its a brand new model, they dont discount new releases....... for example a G63 you might pay up for one
The fact the E53 is brand spanking new, could account for dealer hesitance to discount much off MSRP.
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I agree that dealer loyalty pays dividends in the form of early access to new models along with generous discounts on inventory or factory orders. I've used the same dealer since the 1960's.
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I disagree. I wish I had waited for the E53. I have the 18 E43. The E53 has the new in line 6cyl with 48 volt system that gives you an extra 22 hp of boost plus 429 hp. The E450 has the old V6 engine retuned to 362 hp that is currently in the E400. If you can get one for 5% discount, go for it.
I love my E43 with air suspension. It has a great ride and good power but the E53 offers all that plus more power and the latest technology. Within the next five years all cars will be like the E53 48 volts system with no parasite belts sucking power from the engine. Buy the future and not the past.
PS Your only problem is Trump. He is thinking of adding a 25% tariff on all imported cars. I do not have the audacity to offer my opinion on Mr. Trump.
I love my E43 with air suspension. It has a great ride and good power but the E53 offers all that plus more power and the latest technology. Within the next five years all cars will be like the E53 48 volts system with no parasite belts sucking power from the engine. Buy the future and not the past.
PS Your only problem is Trump. He is thinking of adding a 25% tariff on all imported cars. I do not have the audacity to offer my opinion on Mr. Trump.
I could test drive the E43 I guess, but now I’m on the fence. Does the European delivery discount the E53 the same?
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I really, really want the inline six, but am looking at ordering an E450 because of ride quality. Does the 43 really have a good ride? My priority is on ride and luxury over raw power. Benz over Mustang GT any day for me, so living in Phoenix, where the roads are pretty good, no freeze/thaw potholes for example, will the E53 still deliver an exceptional smooth ride?
I could test drive the E43 I guess, but now I’m on the fence. Does the European delivery discount the E53 the same?
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The longer a car sits on a lot, the more it costs the dealer. Think clearly: A dealer only makes money when he sells a car. Cars sitting on his lot ties up his money. Eventually to move that car he offers a discount - regardless of the model.
At some point the buying public just thinks a car is over priced and it sits on the dealer lot. I have seen our local dealer discount the Maybach over $30,000 - just to move the metal. I do not know the demand for the E53.
So each model is different.
When you order a car it is pure profit for the dealer: it comes in and out, no floor planning. That is why sometimes you get an even bigger discount on an ordered car vs. one on a lot.
Of course end of month sale quotients, end of year sales to increase manufacturer incentives and holdbacks also come into play. That is when you get the biggest discount - but also limited choice.
At some point the buying public just thinks a car is over priced and it sits on the dealer lot. I have seen our local dealer discount the Maybach over $30,000 - just to move the metal. I do not know the demand for the E53.
So each model is different.
When you order a car it is pure profit for the dealer: it comes in and out, no floor planning. That is why sometimes you get an even bigger discount on an ordered car vs. one on a lot.
Of course end of month sale quotients, end of year sales to increase manufacturer incentives and holdbacks also come into play. That is when you get the biggest discount - but also limited choice.