Are Black seats in a hot climate really a no-no? And does ventilation do anything?
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Are Black seats in a hot climate really a no-no? And does ventilation do anything?
I live in Palm Springs, CA (where it is 110°+ all summer...). Two questions for people who live in hot climates:
(1) I have been told forever that black seats are a bad idea in hot, sunny climates. Can anyone refute this?
(My personal opinion about this is when it’s 110° outside, your car seats are going to be HOT! regardless of the seat color and/or any difference would be negligible).
(2) Do "ventilated" seats actually make a difference?
(To me, since your body is covering the holes, there can’t possibly be much airflow, which you might only feel if you are sweaty in gym clothes).
(1) I have been told forever that black seats are a bad idea in hot, sunny climates. Can anyone refute this?
(My personal opinion about this is when it’s 110° outside, your car seats are going to be HOT! regardless of the seat color and/or any difference would be negligible).
(2) Do "ventilated" seats actually make a difference?
(To me, since your body is covering the holes, there can’t possibly be much airflow, which you might only feel if you are sweaty in gym clothes).
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We have ventilated seats in our 2019 CLS and do enjoy them living in South Florida. You are not going to "freeze" your butt since it only offers a modicum level of cool air. This is one of the chosen options that we select in all of our previous MB's. And our seats are black leather. We have had gray and saddle brown leather seats as well. I don't believe the color of your seats really affect the interior temperature of the surfaces.
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I’m in Florida, so the sun and heat here can be brutal. My last four cars had black, light tan, brown, and black leather seats, respectively. Although the color black inherently absorbs more heat, like you, I did not perceive it as a large enough factor to avoid black leather. As for ventilated seats, GET IT! It does make a huge difference, and I don’t think I can ever get another car without it, especially in Florida.
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We live in Tampa, FL. Our E400 has black leather seats. Our E450 has Nut Brown Leather seats. I have had black leather seats in multiple cars here and the reality is any seat in any car sitting in the hot sun will be hot when you get in the car. For us, ventilated seats are mandatory. They cool, but not like A/C cool. Still, if you sweat (like I do) it helps with that 100%. I use my ventilated seats for most of the year in Florida and wouldn't be without this option.
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black seats inthe sun in the south are a cause for burns when wearing shorts!
Go lightest color like
Ventilation does a good job of moving air which helps keep you from sweating when bare skin is on seat whe nwearing shorts.
Heck even Chevy Malibus have ventilated seats today.... it is a no brainer in the south and requirement on any car I buy today new or old....I live in deep south of Mississippi where it is hot and humid
PS parking undercover really helps as well to keep heat out and in garage even more so
Go lightest color like
Ventilation does a good job of moving air which helps keep you from sweating when bare skin is on seat whe nwearing shorts.
Heck even Chevy Malibus have ventilated seats today.... it is a no brainer in the south and requirement on any car I buy today new or old....I live in deep south of Mississippi where it is hot and humid
PS parking undercover really helps as well to keep heat out and in garage even more so
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I live in Florida and highly recommend the PAF option with ventilated seats. The PAF option blocks the heat coming through the glass on all sides, thus the car will remain cooler when parked as well as when it is being used. If the car is parked in the sun for any length of time, use remote start to cool it down in advance. I've only had one car with black interior and I quickly sold it after a single summer.
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The color of the interior will not matter. I love Palm Springs BTW. A good window tint (clear or dark) and ventilated seats will make the difference. Ventilated seats are just that, fans blowing no additional AC but they really do help.
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I will echo that the seat color makes little difference in how hot the seat will get. Cloth seats are actually a lot better in hot climates. That being said, getting the windows tinted with a ceramic tint will help a lot. Also, the windows can be opened prior to getting into these cars by holding down the unlock button....this will help a bit. Many years ago, Saab had an experimental car that had a solar panel on the roof. The panel powered an inside exhaust fan that helped keep the interior cool on a hot day. Always thought that was a nice idea, but obviously, I am a majority of one. The idea never made it into production, and Saab is gone anyhow! By the way, the ventilated seats are great. They pull the air away from your body, thus giving you a cooling "effect". Have had ventilated seats on many cars, and like them a lot.
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I will echo that the seat color makes little difference in how hot the seat will get. Cloth seats are actually a lot better in hot climates. That being said, getting the windows tinted with a ceramic tint will help a lot. Also, the windows can be opened prior to getting into these cars by holding down the unlock button....this will help a bit. Many years ago, Saab had an experimental car that had a solar panel on the roof. The panel powered an inside exhaust fan that helped keep the interior cool on a hot day. Always thought that was a nice idea, but obviously, I am a majority of one. The idea never made it into production, and Saab is gone anyhow! By the way, the ventilated seats are great. They pull the air away from your body, thus giving you a cooling "effect". Have had ventilated seats on many cars, and like them a lot.
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Hey rbrylaw: I know this "Saab thing" is a little off topic....however, I am in complete agreement with you! We had 6 Saabs in our family at one time. The Saabs pre-GM were wonderful cars, but so underappreciated. They handled very well, they were well constructed and very safe and very "clever".....and even closing the door they sounded so solid. We never had any problems with our Saabs. In my opinion,the Saabs were better cars than the BMW, Audi and/or Mercedes cars of the same era. We loved the "quirky" features, as they added "character" to the car. It was amazing how many people we met that would say "oh you own a Saab, aren't they filled with problems?" So then I would ask them if they ever owned one, and the answer was always no. (so I would just laugh to myself as they were obviously "experts"). Even though it has been many years since we owned Saabs, and have had many other cars since the Saabs......when we shop for cars....and even when we shopped for our Mercedes, my wife still continues to judge all other cars by her Saab!
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Saabs were always..."Special." Quirky cars for owners who appreciated them. I would respectfully disagree that any Saab was "better" than a W123/124/126/140. I also agree that GM, with good intentions, was not able to keep Saab a success. Those 900's sure are distinctive!
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Hey rbrylaw: I know this "Saab thing" is a little off topic....however, I am in complete agreement with you! We had 6 Saabs in our family at one time. The Saabs pre-GM were wonderful cars, but so underappreciated. They handled very well, they were well constructed and very safe and very "clever".....and even closing the door they sounded so solid. We never had any problems with our Saabs. In my opinion,the Saabs were better cars than the BMW, Audi and/or Mercedes cars of the same era. We loved the "quirky" features, as they added "character" to the car. It was amazing how many people we met that would say "oh you own a Saab, aren't they filled with problems?" So then I would ask them if they ever owned one, and the answer was always no. (so I would just laugh to myself as they were obviously "experts"). Even though it has been many years since we owned Saabs, and have had many other cars since the Saabs......when we shop for cars....and even when we shopped for our Mercedes, my wife still continues to judge all other cars by her Saab!
This isn't a pic of my E320, but this a 1995:
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My father had a '94 E320. It's why I drive Mercedes today. A fantastic example. In your sourced pic I saw the fender vents (this looks like a diesel) but for a moment reminded me of the Porsche built E500/500E..
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Saabs were always..."Special." Quirky cars for owners who appreciated them. I would respectfully disagree that any Saab was "better" than a W123/124/126/140. I also agree that GM, with good intentions, was not able to keep Saab a success. Those 900's sure are distinctive!
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I suppose that is a diesel in the pic. I had the inline 6, so mine didn't have the fender vents.
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Ventilated seat do come in hand and if you keep them on highest speed while driving for a long time, it get surprisingly cold.
Especially nice thing is when you unlock car and if it's too hot inside, fan will turn on to highest speed to cool down the seats.
Especially nice thing is when you unlock car and if it's too hot inside, fan will turn on to highest speed to cool down the seats.