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Old 04-08-2019, 07:39 AM
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Most of the reason I chose my upcoming (June 2019) E450 over an A6 was because of the touchscreen on the Audi.

Audi overdid it. Everything is touchscreen. When I drove it, it took too much attention to make sure my finger was positioned correctly. It kept sliding around a bit. As I remember, my earlier touchscreen Lexus LS600hL didn’t have this issue and was very easy to use.

There ARE a few useful aspects to a touchscreen, however:

. Touching a displayed POI for more information, or to call, or to route to there.

. This may seem trite, but while road tripping in my earlier Lexus, if I passed an interesting spot I wanted to visit later, I could press an ever-present “Mark” button which put my current location into “previous locations “. I hope there’s a way do do this on the E450.

i was going to add “less clutterfull”, but I really like the layout of the controls on the E450.

Umm, I guess I can only think of the two.....

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I always use voice commands for navigation, voice and text functions. The only feature missing from voice is the ability to receive/send email.
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Does anyone has a analysis/differences/Comparison between Comand and MBUX?
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Im under the impression it is the mild hybrid engine but with less power only? Both are the m264 engines. They probably chose the less powerful one to distance it better from the e450, and maybe because of less noise (lower compression probably)
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I always use voice commands for navigation, voice and text functions. The only feature missing from voice is the ability to receive/send email.
Only problem is that the voice commands occasionally are inaccurate in execution. But otherwise, yes, it is my preferred method of changing something when I'm on the move .
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I found this helpful: https://www.motor1.com/news/237783/c...-infotainment/
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Originally Posted by dreuther
Based on this info, looks like MBUX will be 2022 model. I understand concerns that some of us have about touchscreen but that's the future (cell phones are example) and best UX will win.
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Originally Posted by Cao Black
Disappointing, to say the least.
Agreed. No MBUX is disappointing, but sort of understandable as it's brand new technology. What's more disappointing is the continuing use of the old V6 in the E450 for the 2020 model year, instead of the new I6 that's already available on the 2019 CLS, which is essentially the same platform as the E-Class.
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Originally Posted by Wig
Agreed. No MBUX is disappointing, but sort of understandable as it's brand new technology. What's more disappointing is the continuing use of the old V6 in the E450 for the 2020 model year, instead of the new I6 that's already available on the 2019 CLS, which is essentially the same platform as the E-Class.
i'm guessing they are reserving the inline 6 for "53" badged cars only.

edit: nevermind, i see that the CLS does have a non 53 inline 6 model. my guess is the v6 is cheaper to build, and more in line with the E class customer that doesnt need the (sportier?) inline 6.

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Originally Posted by Wig
Agreed. No MBUX is disappointing, but sort of understandable as it's brand new technology. What's more disappointing is the continuing use of the old V6 in the E450 for the 2020 model year, instead of the new I6 that's already available on the 2019 CLS, which is essentially the same platform as the E-Class.
Not to be argumentative, but touch screen and voice command are hardly new technology. Mercedes needs to keep up not only with rapidly changing tech, but with consumer demand. Note that new GLE gets MBUX. SUV sales increasing while sedan sales are declining might explain why.

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Originally Posted by Cao Black
Not to be argumentative, but touch screen and voice command is hardly new technology. Mercedes needs to keep up not only with rapidly changing tech, but with consumer demand. Note that new GLE gets MBUX. SUV sales increasing while sedan sales are declining might explain why.
Fair points Cao Black. I hope Mercedes is not neglecting the sedans while investing in the SUVs.
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Originally Posted by Cao Black
Not to be argumentative, but touch screen and voice command are hardly new technology. Mercedes needs to keep up not only with rapidly changing tech, but with consumer demand. .
It's funny. It's like history repeating itself back in 2013. When the CUE system in Cadillac came out with the touch screen, it was hailed as the future, blah, blah, blah. It didn't take long before owners were lamenting the lack of rotary knobs like the Mercedes and BMW, and what a pain in the *** (and dangerous) the touch screen was.

They've now come full circle where they've gone back to buttons and redundant, rotary dials, to placate the complaints and lack of sales. I can only assume Mercedes will go through the same growing pains, once drivers get a taste of touch screens once again.
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Originally Posted by rustybear3
It's funny. It's like history repeating itself back in 2013. When the CUE system in Cadillac came out with the touch screen, it was hailed as the future, blah, blah, blah. It didn't take long before owners were lamenting the lack of rotary knobs like the Mercedes and BMW, and what a pain in the *** (and dangerous) the touch screen was.

They've now come full circle where they've gone back to buttons and redundant, rotary dials, to placate the complaints and lack of sales. I can only assume Mercedes will go through the same growing pains, once drivers get a taste of touch screens once again.
Look at Audi A6 came full circle with no buttons.
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Originally Posted by VMAustin
Look at Audi A6 came full circle with no buttons.
Leave it to Audi to go in circles
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Leave it to Audi to go in circles
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Originally Posted by rustybear3
It's funny. It's like history repeating itself back in 2013. When the CUE system in Cadillac came out with the touch screen, it was hailed as the future, blah, blah, blah. It didn't take long before owners were lamenting the lack of rotary knobs like the Mercedes and BMW, and what a pain in the *** (and dangerous) the touch screen was.

They've now come full circle where they've gone back to buttons and redundant, rotary dials, to placate the complaints and lack of sales. I can only assume Mercedes will go through the same growing pains, once drivers get a taste of touch screens once again.
GM definitely should have done better job since they had touch screen in the early 90s (Toronado Trofeo). The real issue is supply. Hundreds of millions of touch screen tech devices are sold yearly but Mercedes can't seem to make enough to include them in both the E sedan and E SUV. That might be intentional, or it might be as big an error as no volume knob.
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I also hope so, but the demand decides where the money goes. The GLC that is based on the C class got MBUX even though its a supposed hassle according to mercedes, all to protect the SUV sales. Wouldnt be surprised that if the GLS where to in the future become mercedes new "halo" car to showcase new features...
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MBUX will be in facelift of the E_Class.

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MBUX will be in facelift of the E_Class.

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But that will be the 2021 model to come out next year, right? Not the 2020 model that is being rolled out right now.
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Originally Posted by dreuther
But that will be the 2021 model to come out next year, right? Not the 2020 model that is being rolled out right now.
I think that is uncertain. If that were the case, then both the C and E sedans would have the holdover COMAND system while both the GLC and GLE SUVs would have the new MBUX. However, spy pictures of 2020 E class show the new touchpad and lack of the COMAND wheel, like other MB models with MBUX,

Anyway, once we get MBUX in the E class we'll all want the new system that the S class is supposedly going to have in 2020 models.




https://www.motor1.com/news/305527/2...-interior-spy/

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But that will be the 2021 model to come out next year, right? Not the 2020 model that is being rolled out right now.
Correct.

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In Germany the 2020 E-Class can be ordered now. Any info when it will be released for order in the US?
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Originally Posted by Cao Black
I However, spy pictures of 2020 E class show the new touchpad and lack of the COMAND wheel, like other MB models with MBUX,

Anyway, once we get MBUX in the E class we'll all want the new system that the S class is supposedly going to have in 2020 models.




https://www.motor1.com/news/305527/2...-interior-spy/
Actually, those are spy shots of the new upcoming S class sedan. Let's hope and pray this ugly screen and interior is reserved strictly for the S class. Who wants a big old I-Pad stuck in the center of the console? Horrible design.
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Originally Posted by rustybear3
Actually, those are spy shots of the new upcoming S class sedan. Let's hope and pray this ugly screen and interior is reserved strictly for the S class. Who wants a big old I-Pad stuck in the center of the console? Horrible design.
The ugly ipad in the center seems to be what most manufacturers are doing now. It mystifies me why manufacturers with huge design departments can't do better than a 14 year old with a hot glue gun.
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Originally Posted by rustybear3
Actually, those are spy shots of the new upcoming S class sedan. Let's hope and pray this ugly screen and interior is reserved strictly for the S class. Who wants a big old I-Pad stuck in the center of the console? Horrible design.
I found a leaked image of this and i don’t know what to think of it. The big tablet looks out of place and the digital instrument cluster looks like it’s just floating. I hope the W214 doesn’t have this too

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