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Does no one order the driver assistance package on the E-Class?

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Old 01-24-2020, 12:24 PM
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Yea, and I hear that the Hyundai/Genesis adaptive cruise works well.
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Wpw, how close to 90 can you get? I have never seen one over 82. I may go on the build site to see how you did it. Was any option not included?
Mine was $83,250 (for a wagon). I did NOT get 19" Wheels (+$500), Panoramic Roof ($1000), Illuminated Star ($500), Chrome Door Handle Inserts ($100), LED Logo Projectors ($275), designo Nappa Learther ($1910 over regular Nappa leather), Warmth & Comfort Package ($1050), Wood/Leather Steering wheel ($600), Illuminated Front Door Sills ($350), Energizing Comfort Package ($550), Active Multi-Contour Seats with Massage ($1320), Manual Rear Window Sideshades ($380), Soft-Close Doors ($550), Air Body Control ($1900) and Wheel Locks ($150). Had I ordered all of them, MSRP would have been $94,385. Just play silly, isn't it? My first house cost $16,000, and it was NICE!
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In Australia our E Classes are specced very differently. We don't have the US packages such as P1 P2 P3. The driver assistance package is standard with Distronic, stop and go, etc. As is the dual digital screens. I think MB Oz decided on that tactic to keep the value of E Classes as high as they can, even though resale on big saloons (sedans) is abysmal anyway.

The main options are:
- different engines (with that come different wheels, seats and materials etc )
- vision pack (pano roof, HUD, and multibeam LED)
- active contour pack (air balance, climate seats, heated rear seats and armrest)
- AMG or exclusive
Old 01-24-2020, 04:55 PM
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rr, thank you. I feel much better, I saved 10K. My E came in at almost the same as yours but with a completely different mix. luxury, 19"wheels, Pano roof, Projectors, design leather, Comfort pkg, massage seats, sunshades, close door, The projectors and door closers are a waste. The pano roof is very enjoyable. We never use the shade. The massage seats are a must for us. They are a real savior on long trips. I think air body control is asking for trouble. MB has been working for 30 years to get it right.

mick, we no longer get the P packages in the US.
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In the US, everybody gets stop/start, although many of us (especially E63S drivers) hate it. It's so that the fleet will pass the Federal fuel economy limit.
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I have it in my E300, but in 30 months of driving It has only activated 3 times. AFAIK it never engages when the AC is running, not merely turned on. There are 118 conditions that must be met before start/stop will engage. At my age I don't remember what they are.
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Originally Posted by whoover
In the US, everybody gets stop/start, although many of us (especially E63S drivers) hate it. It's so that the fleet will pass the Federal fuel economy limit.
Does it work differently on an E 63 S ?
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Originally Posted by Hundens
Does it work differently on an E 63 S ?
No, it's just not the favorite feature of drivers who value responsiveness over fuel economy. Plus, for an E63S in traffic, autostop will make an imperceptible difference on fuel usage anyway. The car gets pretty decent mileage on the highway, but it's pretty bad around town.

Also, for reasons I don't fully understand, it rarely makes it through a red light without restarting anyway. There are lots of reasons the system overrides autostop and they seem to cut in more often on the AMG.
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Distronic came into it's own in 2019 in terms of staying in the lane and not wandering like earlier years. So if you're deciding between used years 2018 and below, I would instead opt for anything 2019 or newer.
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Distronic came into it's own in 2019 in terms of staying in the lane and not wandering like earlier years. So if you're deciding between used years 2018 and below, I would instead opt for anything 2019 or newer.
Unfortunately that will continue to happen, the 2017 E300 Distronic is a lot better than my 2015 C300. I’m pretty sure 2021 will be even that much better. I absolutely love MB but refuse to keep changing every couple years to be relevant.

I will hold onto this one until they adopt Tesla’s way of updating the software so the car is not constantly outdated. All in my car was mid 80k. The technology featured cars depreciation is even higher because of changes in technology
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Originally Posted by Hundens
Wpw, how close to 90 can you get? I have never seen one over 82. I may go on the build site to see how you did it. Was any option not included?
$89,205. Actually, if you include some accessories I added after purchase, MSRP for it all is over $90k. I didn’t fully option it, but I was close. I didn’t get special paint, illuminated star, sill’s, or puddle lights, no panorama roof (I would have deleted the sunroof too if I could), no upsized wheels. I can’t think of anything else I left off. My dealer joked I was getting an S-class wagon.
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Originally Posted by mickhoog
In Australia our E Classes are specced very differently. We don't have the US packages such as P1 P2 P3. The driver assistance package is standard with Distronic, stop and go, etc. As is the dual digital screens. I think MB Oz decided on that tactic to keep the value of E Classes as high as they can, even though resale on big saloons (sedans) is abysmal anyway.

The main options are:
- different engines (with that come different wheels, seats and materials etc )
- vision pack (pano roof, HUD, and multibeam LED)
- active contour pack (air balance, climate seats, heated rear seats and armrest)
- AMG or exclusive
I was checking out an MB dealer in Malaysia recently to see how they do things and what they described sounds similar to what you’re saying about how MB are sold in Australia. They also have a 200% import tax on foreign vehicles, so even their bottom tier E200 was way more than my wagon.
Old 01-25-2020, 02:24 PM
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I have the package but like driving myself. But it's great on long journeys as an extra safety feature
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I’ve had active cruise control systems in previous cars and I’ve never really found it useful.

ON THE HIGHWAY:
The truth is that if I’m in the slow lane and the road ahead is clear then regular cruise control is good enough. If there is a vehicle in front of me going slowly or slows down, I’m not going to follow behind and match his/her speed, I’m going to overtake.

IN TOWNS/CITIES:
I always use the adjustable speed limiter in towns/cities, rather than cruise control
Old 09-09-2020, 07:15 PM
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You'll have to spec it. We custom ordered ours (2018) and went full ham. P3 plus other misc options. We still love her car and it's been 100% reliable.
Old 09-10-2020, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by robert c
the P’s were different levels of equipment. I have a P2 2018 with digital dash as didn’t want the driving option in P3 but wanted the digital dash that was in a P3 option.
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I thought digital dash was part of P2 until they could not produce enough. They then called the option Q2...all the P2 options except the dash. I could be wrong. Anyway, the past couple of years have been a single Premium package. Options that previously might have been part of a P2 or P3 are now included or sold as standalone options. The buyer would be well advised to ensure that the features he's looking for are on the vehicle by getting a build sheet from the dealer or online.
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I am coming to this thread very late, but IMHO, the various Driver’s Assistance Packages that have been offered by MB over the past several years, are THE,” NUMBER ONE, NOTHING-EVEN-COMES-CLOSE, BEST options ever offered by any car company. Regarding the current Distronic Plus, adaptive cruise control, I use it frequently. Driving the freeways in the greater Southern California area, I find the system to be absolutely invaluable and truly feel that it is tantamount to having another pair of eyes watching the traffic in front of me. I also use it on faster surface streets and highways. The Pre-Safe emergency braking and collision avoidance systems are worth their weight in gold, as far as I am concerned. Just think of the potential consequences of rear-ending another car, just one time, over the course of your driving life: avoiding that one, single event might possibly be a huge, life changing event in a very positive way. As long as one understands that these systems are driver’s ASSISTANCE systems and not a chauffeur, then they can be very helpful.

I’ve heard all the talk from those saying things like “I never use the systems, because I always want to be in control, and I’m such a great driver”........and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! Well, all I can say is “good for them.” With all the crazies out there, driving like they are participating in the Mille Miglia road race, I’ll take every bit of help I can get in staying safe and avoiding a collision.
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I have it in our 2019 CLS 450 and other MB's I have owned. It is truly a remarkable option to have and use. Living in South Florida and using the highway quite often, The system is very useful and extremely reliable.

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Originally Posted by Streamliner
I am coming to this thread very late, but IMHO, the various Driver’s Assistance Packages that have been offered by MB over the past several years, are THE,” NUMBER ONE, NOTHING-EVEN-COMES-CLOSE, BEST options ever offered by any car company. Regarding the current Distronic Plus, adaptive cruise control, I use it frequently. Driving the freeways in the greater Southern California area, I find the system to be absolutely invaluable and truly feel that it is tantamount to having another pair of eyes watching the traffic in front of me. I also use it on faster surface streets and highways. The Pre-Safe emergency braking and collision avoidance systems are worth their weight in gold, as far as I am concerned. Just think of the potential consequences of rear-ending another car, just one time, over the course of your driving life: avoiding that one, single event might possibly be a huge, life changing event in a very positive way. As long as one understands that these systems are driver’s ASSISTANCE systems and not a chauffeur, then they can be very helpful.

I’ve heard all the talk from those saying things like “I never use the systems, because I always want to be in control, and I’m such a great driver”........and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! Well, all I can say is “good for them.” With all the crazies out there, driving like they are participating in the Mille Miglia road race, I’ll take every bit of help I can get in staying safe and avoiding a collision.
Correct me if wrong, but don't all W213 E class have Pre-Safe?
My two cents: If Mercedes is still using the Best or Nothing slogan, then automatic braking should be standard, especially at Mercedes prices. Several, many even, other manufacturer's models, including Nissan and Toyota include it. If MB wants to charge a 'Premium' for a system that maintains speed and distance on the expressway, or reads speed limit signs, so be it. It's apples and oranges IMO.
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Correct me if wrong, but don't all W213 E class have Pre-Safe?
My two cents: If Mercedes is still using the Best or Nothing slogan, then automatic braking should be standard, especially at Mercedes prices. Several, many even, other manufacturer's models, including Nissan and Toyota include it. If MB wants to charge a 'Premium' for a system that maintains speed and distance on the expressway, or reads speed limit signs, so be it. It's apples and oranges IMO.
Yes, there is a base level for the safety systems that is standard, but the driver assistance package enhances the capabilities as shown in the following tables.




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Old 09-11-2020, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Cao Black
Correct me if wrong, but don't all W213 E class have Pre-Safe?
My two cents: If Mercedes is still using the Best or Nothing slogan, then automatic braking should be standard, especially at Mercedes prices. Several, many even, other manufacturer's models, including Nissan and Toyota include it. If MB wants to charge a 'Premium' for a system that maintains speed and distance on the expressway, or reads speed limit signs, so be it. It's apples and oranges IMO.
I totally agree with you on that. I have a 2017 with P3 and paid so much for it. I then rent a Nissan and it has pre braking automatically. IMO, a real slap in the face. I am keeping this car until MB gets their act together and start updating the cars like Tesla
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Personally I don't get why it isn't standard on the E and up, I can't imagine not having it. Same with parktronic. I see some people loading up their AMG's and not getting parktronic. Crazy.
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Personally I don't get why it isn't standard on the E and up, I can't imagine not having it. Same with parktronic. I see some people loading up their AMG's and not getting parktronic. Crazy.
Not everyone sux at driving Some of us know how to park a car as well as parallel park And it isn't standard so they can bill you MORE lol.


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